US woman finds love in Perth schoolboy UPDATE

[Quentin0352]

not to play devils advocate...........but at 16, this boy knew what pair of pussy lips he wanted to stick his dick in

At that age a guy wants to stick it in most ANY pussy with the hormone rage his body has going on.

[Mr. X]

not to play devils advocate...........but at 16, this boy knew what pair of pussy lips he wanted to stick his dick in

At that age a guy wants to stick it in most ANY pussy with the hormone rage his body has going on.

Which is worse for the boy since society WILL stick him for child support. Out of control hormones and one mistake and BAM his life is over. Add to that women who are supposed to be the adult in the situation not looking out for the interest of an innocent child and just wanting to get humped and pregnant. And this is called "priviledge".

[The Biscuit Queen]

Q, that is not necessarily true. I have spoken with quite a few guys who either didn't have sex or wanted to wait and were heavily pressured by a girlfriend to have sex at the age of 16-17. Some of these men felt in a way forced to have sex, and still regretted it to this day.

I think there are many boys who would have sex with anyone, but there are many who would not. It is a disservice to assume all boys feel the same way, and would be unscarred in this situation. She was a child predator, and even if he was willing he should not have been put in a situation where he was dealing with an adult married woman. What is worse, a child predator is now parenting a child herself, and you can be sure that someday when this child is a teen, she will start to look at the child or his or her friends. Even if she cannot get anywhere, she will likely try.

[Quentin0352]

Correct on that and I sit corrected. I know I was a LOT pickier than most of my friends growing up and even as a young Marine. It also caused a lot of issues with people questioning my sexual orientation because I didn't want to risk kids until I was married. Yes I had sex a few times but not very often and always with protection I brought myself instead of trusting them.

[gwallan]

Gee.. any guesses as to why she brought him back to the states.....?

And the law stipulates, I believe, that the law of sexual predators (online) are incumbent of the state of origin.  In otherwords, SHE IS A FREAKIN PEADO under CA law.

The California laws are of interest to me here. It's quite possible she was communicating with him long before he turned sixteen(West Aus age of consent) as they claim. (If the US internet law says eighteen that would be moot anyway. )

Was she breaking the law? Yes or no?


email sent to editors of Perth Sunday Times. They seem to have provided a reasonably balanced coverage.

During March of 2007 you ran the following story
It's a real wedsite
 
You are possibly aware of New Idea's current "exclusive" interview with the the now married couple. I'm rather disturbed at the whole tone of New Idea's coverage of this (not to mention the coverage when she first arrived) but until now I wasn't aware of your March 07 article. Interestingly she's reverted to her maiden name Vedder between the two stories.
 
Your article seems to be saying that she had told her story to Womens Day in particular. By this I assume an "exclusive". Am I safe to assume she has sold their story to at least two womens magazines and one television network?
 
Interesting way to make one's living indeed. I'd love to know how much it sold for.
 
I was drawn to your mention of the internet in the last paragraph...
 
"The Sunday Times has revealed previously that Ms Anderson met other men through the internet, posting sexy photos of herself on her self-designed MySpace website. "
 
The New Idea Website  has a spot for reader comments on articles including this one. One of them caught my eye. As you could easily view it anyway I'll feel free to reproduce it.
 
lizzyplays - Jan 23 03:05pm
I am the new happy "grammy", (via a joke where I always called him "son" online). Having been friends with both for 4 years online, and meeting in person recently, it seems to work for them. He's mature beyond his years, and she's not a serial cradle robber. And I'd sell a story too, if I had one
 
At this point I went from being upset at the New Idea's treatment of this story and the implicit insentitivity to male abuse victims to being simply creeped out. "grammy"? "son"? Consequently I originally missed the reference to four years from this self professed mother figure who clearly approves. The newlyweds have consistantly claimed he was sixteen when they first met on the internet. Now I wonder. I also wonder whose mother lizzyplays actually is.
 
Fundamentally every aspect of this story has shrieked "predator" to me from the beginning. It's been carried out publically too, and for profit. There are far more men out there who have had this experience, but quietly, than is commonly understood. The casually endearing approach to this story is a knife to the guts of many of them. Male victims experience exactly the same impact as female but none of New Idea, Women's Day or Seven would display this type of casual attitude to their experience. I'd call it an act of cruelty except that they're utterly oblivious anyway. They know not what they do so to speak.
 
Thus those men watch as the New Idea et al reward the behaviour AND broadcast the fact to a huge female audience. Forgive my being theatrical but I hope New Idea etc readers in states other than WA realise they "shouldn't do it at home". Most other states WILL arrest them. The scary bit is that maybe these various media outlets know their constituency all too well.
 
In this overtly public spectacle the young man is under the complete control of Ms Vedder/Anderson. It is typical in these scenarios for the teenager to cede all power to the adult - male and female alike (it's no coincidence that treatments for sexual abuse victims are very similar to those for victims of slavery). Bear in mind she has had total authority over him since he was sixteen. It was pre planned so it occured in a jurisdiction where the age of consent sort of permits it. He's still a minor however and has curtailed legal rights. As soon as he reaches the California age of consent(18) she's off back home with him. He is thus removed from his home and support networks including family. He's gone from age of majority at home to curtailed legal rights again. In addition the shape of various US laws - predominantly those relating to child support - make it impossible for him to come home without her permission for at least two decades. I'll admit that my evaluation of Ms Vesser may be wrong but too much of this gells with personal experience. I feel as though I could be his scriptwriter even down to his lines.
 
One thing I'd love to find out is whether she actually violated any of California's internet child sex laws. She has certainly been very careful with various age of consent laws. There's been media coverage of this sort of thing in Australia targeting men who chat up kids online. Here's a woman who did just that and it's presented publically as an internet romance and follow-up baby shower complete with gifts.
 
Wow. Just, wow.

[K9]

On checking to see if my post had been deleted, I found this comment:

10. irrepressible_catrin - Jan 25 06:32pm
I am related to James and happen to know for fact that besides coming over here and taking James to bed no sooner than she'd left the airport, Karen also introduced James to meth-amphetamines and I wish to goodness magazines would stop paying them for their story

[gwallan]

This is an outrage. I am floored that a woman can get away with this in the US and be praised for it to boot. I have boys (12 and 17) and the thought that an adult was preying on them makes my blood boil. I would probably do something very rash and illegal if this was my son. 

Thankyou for that BQ. This is what really gets me about it. It's womens magazines with huge circulations that are lapping this up(this latest thing is virtually a bloody baby shower). Surely some of these women have sons? And yet those magazines do cater to their audiences. They know what sells. I hate to say it but you may be the exception.

Interestingly a lesbian friend, when she saw the article, pointed staight at his face in the photo and said "I know why she did this. He's gorgeous."




One thing to note about this is that the woman concerned is now fighting for custody of her young daughter. What are the odds that her former husband ends up paying for her chosen lifestyle - cute little slave boy included.




As an aside I'd ask people to recall the Lorena Bobbit affair. The thing that sticks in my mind about that is the glee with which many women greeted that story. Not to mention the standing ovations on national television.

Here we have another story of a woman abusing a male - this time a boy - and again many women are happy to openly applaud the act. Openly, publicly and, most of all, shamelessly.

The older I get the more disappointed with women I become.

[Bobx23456]

not to play devils advocate...........but at 16, this boy knew what pair of pussy lips he wanted to stick his dick in

At that age a guy wants to stick it in most ANY pussy with the hormone rage his body has going on.

The age laws in the US are just nuts, but they should be enforced equally on females.   Females deserve "equal rights" to the big house. 



Blessings

Bob

[gwallan]

not to play devils advocate...........but at 16, this boy knew what pair of pussy lips he wanted to stick his dick in

At that age a guy wants to stick it in most ANY pussy with the hormone rage his body has going on.

The age laws in the US are just nuts, but they should be enforced equally on females.   Females deserve "equal rights" to the big house. 



Blessings

Bob

In most Australian states it's sixteen but there is a rider. Up to age eighteen the other party can't be more than two years older(Western Australia is the one exception). I find this quite rational by camparison with the strict eighteen that seems to apply in much of the US.

One of the major reasons for these laws is that putting a kid in an adult relationship locks aspects of their development in place. Subsequently they can have great difficulty maintaining functional adult relationships. Also it's typical for the adult to become a surrogate parent as well as lover which is understandably problematic. The case in point is a prime example. They lived together from when he was sixteen putting her in a parental position regarding anything he couldn't do because he is still a minor.

Sometimes rape IS all about power and control.

I've tracked down lizzyplays, AKA Louise, active supporter of statutory rape(well, when it's a woman anyway).

Seems she's recently been looking for somewhere to live in North Hollywood. Wonder if she and Karen are planning to share the cute young slave boy.

[Bobx23456]

One of the major reasons for these laws is that putting a kid in an adult relationship locks aspects of their development in place. Subsequently they can have great difficulty maintaining functional adult relationships. Also it's typical for the adult to become a surrogate parent as well as lover which is understandably problematic. The case in point is a prime example. They lived together from when he was sixteen putting her in a parental position regarding anything he couldn't do because he is still a minor.

Before feminism and it's opposition to marriage and families, a young woman was considered "adult" at about age 14 or so, when she was biologically entering her primary breeding years.   The biological breeding years are what they are because that's the age that normal women have been breeding for a million years. 

Feminism, its opposition to marriage, and its enthusiasm for making all men into "criminals" has created laws agaisnt what was NORMAL human marriages for all of human history in virtually every society, cultuer and tribe.   Women of biological breeding age were not "kids" until feminism opposed their marriage.  Men were not "crimials" for mating with marriagable breeding age females until feminism made NORMAL men into criminals. 

Sometimes rape IS all about power and control.

Most of the time feminist misandry uses "rape" as a weapon to bash normal men.   I'm not surprised to see it on Dr E's board, considering what has been said about it on other MRA web sites. 

Feminists see "rape" as "power and control" because females use sex as a means of power and contorl of men.   Men see "rape" as sex, because men use sex as sex.   It's not hard to figure out which theory is represented in the above quote.

Blessings

Bob

[Cordell Walker]

bob...................if you believe in freedom, then you believe in freedom for EVERYBODY
your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins
you have no right to force a woman into sex agaisnt her will
that is rape
that is bad
it should be a death penalty crime
but the burden of proof should be extra high

[devia]

Interesting that you try and shame Evil that way bob.

[Cordell Walker]

I dont see how anybody can NOT be disgusted by real rape......REAL rape not "I wish i aint gave him no pussy and he is braggin so imma cry rape" rape. real players  get the pussy and make her think she raped HIM

[Bobx23456]

bob...................if you believe in freedom, then you believe in freedom for EVERYBODY
your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins
you have no right to force a woman into sex agaisnt her will
that is rape
that is bad
it should be a death penalty crime
but the burden of proof should be extra high

Well, Tony, a death penalty crime seems a little harsh for a crime that is often pleasurable for the "victim" and has become more of a feminist hate message than a real crime.  I genterally don't support severe punishment for most "crime" and suggest that the punishment shoud equal the harm done during the crime.   Despite hysterical (a well gendered term) rantings about rape, I have yet to see any proof that most rape "victims" were actually harmed more severely than even a modest physical assault does to a man.   Hysteria is not "harm" unless someone can demonstrate it.   

Yea, I have heard all the feminist rape-hate hysteria too.   I've heard females bragging about "my rapist" several decades later.  Most of it is the anti-men hate of feminism.  If feminism is against it, then I'm usually for it.

The price of sex on the street is often less than $100.   Seems like a rape has taken a service worth about the normal commercial price.   That's not a major crime. 

Your Mileage May Vary, as the hippies used to say. 

Blesssings

Bob

[Cordell Walker]

thats a sick fuckin outlook dude...................TPTM says that every human being has a right to say yes or no to sexual advances, and that freedom is also the freedom to choose.....................voluntary associations of persons