Started by John Dias, Mar 18, 2010, 10:33 AM
Her mother tried and tried to get something done so that she did not have to go see her father. She had DFS out to his house, they found nothing...She filed for an order of protection on a couple different occassions...they were dismissed...She refused to let her see her dad until her back was up to the wall...the court systems had tied her hands and she had no other choices but to let her sweet baby go to her dads house and hope that everything was ok...
Fathers do have rights, no doubt, but their rights do not trump women and children's safety.
recent research shows that some men sabotage women's use of birth control and some use coercion to get a woman pregnant.
In contested custody cases, men who seek custody get it up to 84 percent
Family court and fathers' rights = A deadly combination Historically, battered women have had problems retaining custody of their children. Mainly this was due to how they present; in a word, poorly. They cry, they're frightened, they appear anxious and even hostile. Now add to this mix the Fathers' Rights movement, a group referred to as anti-feminist, backlash and even, the "Abusers' Lobby" and you have what amounts to a catastrophe
Domestic violence experts also cringe at the idea of punishing false allegations, something the fathers' rights groups actively promote. Since accusations of abuse can be difficult to prove - with evidence and witnesses - this can serve to punish parents for alledging abuse. Punishment deters reporting. Parents can be fined, jailed or denied custody if the judge doesn't believe their accusation. (Give me a fucking break - a woman going to JAIL for a false DV charge!? - Steven) Domestic violence expert Barry Goldstein says, " seeking custody to pressure their partner to return or punish her for leaving. Although fathers are more likely to make false charges, courts are more likely to believe them."
1) WOMEN often sabotage their own birth control with the INTENT of getting pregnant. No mention of that here, in this wonderfully balanced article.
Your article is so slanted and biased I am not sure even where to start. I guess I would like you to post some supporting documentation proving your points, rather than using anecdotal incidents.How many fathers total get sole custody of children? What percentage of child murders and abuse are perpetrated by the biological father (not stepfather?) What percentage of child murders are perpetrated by the biological mother? How many women do exactly what you accuse men-cheat or tamper with birth control to get pregnant? What are the motivations to lie about PAS vs outright abuse-who has the most support to do so, and the most to gain and how many are successful? What percentage of domestic violence situations are mutually violent? If mutual violence occurs, then should the kids go into foster care, since violent parents are likely to abuse kids? Are there cases where women kill their own kids to get back at their husbands? What you are talking about here is trumping the rights of all innocent men (any man who has not been convicted of a crime by definition in the US btw) to preemptively keep fathers from their kids based on accusations alone. It is irrelevant if these accusations are occasionally true-that is sad, but it has to stand. Our country was built on basic principles of law which say you cannot punish someone for something without proving them guilty. What you propose is not only against the law, it is directly unconstitutional. Every person is innocent until proven guilty. What you propose is something out of Soviet Russia, or Nazi Germany. Do you really want the government to have that sort of power? WHat happens when you are the person they decide to expel next?I hate to see stories where one parents kills the child out of retribution or spite. It is just as often women I hear about doing this, yet I would not support preemptively taking kids away from mothers on the unsubstantiated accusation of the father, either. There MUST be checks and balances.Women and children are not one entity, they are separate people. A solid and factual arguement could be made that men and children are more likely to be abused than women; lumping the two together is a cheap way to bolster stats. Reproductive rights for the mother ends the moment that child is no longer inside the body of the mother; then they become two separate people. I really hope you are willing to provide documentation for your accusations. I am interested to see what you find to my questions above. JenSubmitted by JenK on March 18, 2010 - 5:08pm.
Two-thirds of these involve domestic violence, committed overwhelmingly (90 percent) by fathers, according to Harvard's Jay Silverman, in a forward to the book Domestic Violence, Abuse, and Child Custody.
The importance of the problem cannot be overstated: there are approximately100,000 contested child custody cases each year in the United States, with studiesindicating that two-thirds of them likely involve domestic violence. Conservativelyestimating that 90 percent of such cases involve violence by fathers towards mothers,these statistics imply that the fate of 90,000 children and adolescents who have beenexposed to violence against their mothers is placed in the hands of the family courtsevery year.