www.DontDateHimGirl.com features details about alleged cheats
The creator of a US website that lets women complain about men they say have wronged them is facing legal action from a featured man.
The man, a lawyer, says he has been defamed, and the website should be forced to check its facts.
The site, DontDateHimGirl.com, allows men to respond but not to get postings taken down - a policy now under review.
The website owner compares herself with a coffee shop proprietor who is not liable for her customers' gossip.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5135384.stm
The website owner compares herself with a coffee shop proprietor who is not liable for her customers' gossip.
No dice fembot. You store and serve said gossip on demand. You give it persistence. Let your customers write their gossip on your walls and then you'll see how it works.
If he wins, her problem becomes every moderator's worse nightmare.
Ooops!
They featured an attorney, someone who knows the libel laws. Too bad for them.
The website owner compares herself with a coffee shop proprietor who is not liable for her customers' gossip.
Well, the primary purpose of a coffee shop is to serve coffee. People may gossip while they are participating in the act of drinking coffee. If a cup of coffee is lethal the coffee shop would be liable. The primary purpose of her web site is to blame certain people for bad behaviors. That is why they are there. If she makes a mistake in who she blames then she should be liable. She is trying to shift the ground and appear blameless.
YEa, I posted about this on false-accusers.com. here is a site claiming a class action suit against them.
http://www.classaction-dontdatehimgirl.com/
TMOTS
The website owner compares herself with a coffee shop proprietor who is not liable for her customers' gossip.
No dice fembot. You store and serve said gossip on demand. You give it persistence. Let your customers write their gossip on your walls and then you'll see how it works.
Yup...The site owner touts it as a database. Looks to me like she wants to build a place like a department of motor vehicles, where women can go to investigate men before dating them.
The man, a lawyer, says he has been defamed, and the website should be forced to check its facts.
The site, DontDateHimGirl.com, allows men to respond but not to get postings taken down - a policy now under review.
The website owner compares herself with a coffee shop proprietor who is not liable for her customers' gossip.
When he's done suing her, I hope he sues the NOW gang for hate crimes against men....Y'all know all the man-bashing lies they tell.
If he wins what kind of precedent will this set? (And then be applied more harshly in the service and defense of women?)
If he wins what kind of precedent will this set? (And then be applied more harshly in the service and defense of women?)
I'm fairly sure other sites doing similar things with regards to more "private issues" in life has been successfully taken down. A few of the "amIhotornot" type sites etc..
I am actually on the side of the website owner on this one. The internet should remain an unregulated medium.
The whole problem is the site's REFUSAL to take down posts that are proved to be wrong from the way I read it. That would make them liable since they refuse to correct bad information and outright lies. It would be the same if my ex were to come in here posting I molested our daughter and after I sent info proving she lied in those claims and asked him to remove her post, he refused. At that point he would be liable for aiding in defamation of character against me. Now if he agreed and took it down, then he wouldn't be since he asked on good faith to the original claim and when shown it was incorrect he removed it to prevent further damage. Same as when a paper makes corrections and etc.
Exactly Q. If the have been given proof that a woman was full of shit, especially since it is so rare, then they have an obligation to remove her post. IF they don't then I am all for shutting them down.
Other than that though, I don't want to see a regulated internet. Just use the laws that we have on the books now when stuff like this comes up in other media outlets. NY Times ring a bell? Dan Rathers Anyone?
TMOTS
The website owner compares herself with a coffee shop proprietor who is not liable for her customers' gossip.
How completely dishonest is that?
No, she doesn't own an innocent widdle 'coffee shop' over which she has no control, she runs a website specifically intended to publish gossip. A place which openly bills itself as a resource which has dirt on people. The moral cowardice of this woman is extraordinary.
I went to that website and clicked on some profiles.
What is interesting is that some of the "complaints" involve a guy who paid for everything, paid for every date, and then cooled off towards them. Apparently, Daddy Warbucks has to either keep paying or be subject to any and all abuse that the women can dish up. Imagine cutting a woman down because she won't do exactly what you want - nobody wants to go there, LOL!
Actually, it's unfortunate that the women don't give their names - I'll bet this guy:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/49842
could really flip a bunch of them for sex.
If you look at their policies, it pretty much shows their goal. My personal comments are itallic.
Do not post the names of alleged cheating women on this website! In other words, we don't want equality in the area of cheating to be exposed The names will automatically be deleted! www.DontDateHimGirl.com is for women to post the pictures and profiles of men who have allegedly cheated on them, NOT vice versa.
Do not post comments! If you have comments, please post them in our DDHG member forum or on our blog.
Keep it clean and respectful! No profanity! It will be deleted from the profile! Yeah, we want to destroy lives in a RESPECTFUL way so it is harder to be challenged for what is said. Our lawyers pointed this out to us.
We do not remove profiles of the men in our database! We don't care if it is slander or lies, if we can screw up another man one way or another then it is good! If you have been posted to the site, you are entitled to e-mail a rebuttal to your profile by sending an e-mail request to [email protected] ! Now we may or may not post the rebuttal at our discretion and if you don't like being slandered because you dumped her when she demanded more than you can afford, too bad, your male so suck it up! After all, we are just trying to help protect our sisters from you evil men.
DontDateHimGirl.com Content Monitors reserve the right to remove postings that violate these rules. DontDateHimGirl.com is monitored for content 24 hours a day. Postings deemed to have violated these rules will be removed.
I am under the impression that the site posts names, faces, and places where the men live. The women posting the charges remain anonymous.
This is the crux of the issue, at least for me.
Claims like this, being very slanderous by nature, must be backed up by fact. The profiles of some men are causing harm to them in real life, creating problems with the ability to work and have a social life in some cases. In others, family members of those profiled are being effected as well. Who can say what is true and what is not?
Women can be very vindictive creatures, and allowing a site like this to slander people is not free speech. Slander is not protected speech, and I hope this group wins the suit against these 2-bit hags
Other than that though, I don't want to see a regulated internet. Just use the laws that we have on the books now when stuff like this comes up in other media outlets. NY Times ring a bell? Dan Rathers Anyone?
TMOTS
I think it's the location of the server that decides what is allowed to be on the site, for example, Kazaa is located across several countries and continents, and therefore is protected from copywrite laws (although he "The user did it, not me" defense still works good). I also think that we should be able to do whatever we want to take care of an evil internet site. When a website was posting information on the where-abouts of celebrities, random people gave falsified info. Which I think is great. I spam sites I dislike, I occasionally will post 1980x1200 sized pics over and over again in the attempt to crash a server. It's fun!
Claims like this, being very slanderous by nature, must be backed up by fact. The profiles of some men are causing harm to them in real life, creating problems with the ability to work and have a social life in some cases. In others, family members of those profiled are being effected as well. Who can say what is true and what is not?
Women can be very vindictive creatures, and allowing a site like this to slander people is not free speech. Slander is not protected speech, and I hope this group wins the suit against these 2-bit hags
I agree. The bottom line for free speech is that you can be called up on what you've just said, so you'd better damn well make sure that you're right.
However what you've got with that website is a one-sided and potentially slanderous tool for spreading vicious rumour. If I decide to make up lies about someone at my work and spread them around the office, I'd better be prepared for the person to find out who started them. Then I'll have to defend what I've said or be made to look like the liar that I am. With the website in question there is no comeback. If a guy complains he can't mention the woman's name who slurred him (sorry fella, sight policy), making it a one-sided argument.
In the time I've been coming to SYG I've never seen anyone post the full names of wives or girlfriends in these threads, unless they're cutting and pasting from another (linked) source on the web. But the website in question possitively encourages it.