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Title: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: Virtue on Mar 07, 2008, 03:26 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/07/MNJDVF0F1.DTL

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A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation as a means of protecting the public welfare," the judge wrote,


I don't think I will be activly posting anything anywhere anymore.....I have work to do to prepare for the future.
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: The Gonzman on Mar 07, 2008, 04:12 PM

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/07/MNJDVF0F1.DTL

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A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation as a means of protecting the public welfare," the judge wrote,


I don't think I will be activly posting anything anywhere anymore.....I have work to do to prepare for the future.


Wow.

Germany, circa 1930-something.

It's the left coast.  What do you expect?
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: Garak on Mar 07, 2008, 04:16 PM
We all know that there is alot of money involved in the state being pro-mother in custody cases but isn't it also true that women are more likely to let the state tell them how to raise their kids than men are?
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: neoteny on Mar 07, 2008, 04:25 PM
Quote from: The Gonzman
It's the left coast.  What do you expect?


Was it Saul Bellow who said that "California is a cancerous growth on the body of the US of A" (or words to that effect)?  :laughing6:
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: . on Mar 07, 2008, 04:37 PM
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[size=10]A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation as a means of protecting the public welfare," the judge wrote,[/size]


I suppose one purpose of the family is to counteract some of the influences of the state, and instead pass on values from parents to children.  It's all we have left, now that the educational system has been so politicized.  And they're busily working to undermine the family as well.
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: CaptDMO on Mar 07, 2008, 04:54 PM
Aaaaaaannd....this "effort" was introduced, and written by,  Concerned Taxpayers of California,...... right?

This was the result of a ballot vote,....... right?

This is expected to qualify as a precedent elsewhere, ........right?

And Education union "administrators"and members all over Ca. have relinquished their "free'  health insurance. immunity from rightful termination. and agreed to public servant pay scales,  to finance this, .............right?

And a public school diploma is MANDITORY for ALL children of ALL Ca. residents receiving  ANY Ca.  taxpayer dollars,...........right?

Meanwhile, on the right (13 miles worth) coast.
The de facto state newspaper The Union Leader (http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Keeping+charters+alive%3a+The+House+takes+a+big+step&articleId=4ae4633e-751c-40f4-8b87-32e0d409a506) reports:
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ON WEDNESDAY, Concord's attitude toward New Hampshire's chartered public schools demonstrated a dramatic shift. The valuable incubators of alternative public education might survive previous attempts to smother them after all. It looks as though Gov. John Lynch (dem) will be given the final say.
(snip)

It seems that charter schools won over legislators by doing what teachers unions have claimed charters could not do: educate struggling students. Legislators have been able to see that instead of draining the best students from regular public schools, charter schools have given average and struggling students new educational opportunities.
(snip)

Charter schools are doing important work in New Hampshire. The House has seen that. Gov. Lynch and the Senate need to follow the House's lead and make sure these schools continue to provide quality public alternatives for students who are not best-served by their traditional public schools.

Private alternatives have repeatedly  PROVED their excellence!



Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: Virtue on Mar 07, 2008, 06:50 PM
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It's the left coast.  What do you expect?


Yeah I live in CA.....I need to get the Fuck outta dodge
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: Cordell Walker on Mar 07, 2008, 06:52 PM
come on to texas
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: CaptDMO on Mar 07, 2008, 07:22 PM

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It's the left coast.  What do you expect?


Yeah I live in CA.....I need to get the Fuck outta dodge

Perfect!
Ask your neighbors what they think of this.
In recognition that the termPolitically Correct has lost its poignancy as a
sarcastic taunt of consistantly failed Socialist Political Engineering{/i], CaptDMO claims
coinage of the term "California Rules" (Best pronounced "Cal-i-forn-e-ah" in honor of the presiding foreign-actor, tied to East Coast Socialist/Criminal elements by marriage,  Governor of the time) as a contemporary colloquialism.

If anyone disagrees, tell 'em to take it to the Ninth Circuit!     
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: oz615 on Mar 07, 2008, 07:47 PM

come on to texas


I'm there just as soon as i get some $$$$
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: Cordell Walker on Mar 07, 2008, 09:00 PM


come on to texas


I'm there just as soon as i get some $$$$


its a great  place..............from the bright lights of downtown and north dallas to the  sunsets of sweetwater and big spring, from the huge reineries and shipyards of baytown channelview and south houston to the  wild beaches of galveston and corpus, from the  stock shows and boxing matches  of fort worth to the oktoberfests in new braunfals
once you come you wont wanna leave
and the political social climate is reasonable too...................if you are a leftist college type, theres a place for you , if your a christian fundie, there is a place for you too...................although I would say there is a more libertarian vibe here than other parts of the south
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: oz615 on Mar 07, 2008, 09:10 PM



come on to texas


I'm there just as soon as i get some $$$$


its a great  place..............from the bright lights of downtown and north dallas to the  sunsets of sweetwater and big spring, from the huge reineries and shipyards of baytown channelview and south houston to the  wild beaches of galveston and corpus, from the  stock shows and boxing matches  of fort worth to the oktoberfests in new braunfals
once you come you wont wanna leave
and the political social climate is reasonable too...................if you are a leftist college type, theres a place for you , if your a christian fundie, there is a place for you too...................although I would say there is a more libertarian vibe here than other parts of the south


i was in the Metroplex a couple summers ago visiting family there,i really enjoyed hence the reason why i wanna relocate to the area,if $$ possible.
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: gwallan on Mar 07, 2008, 09:29 PM
More evidence that at some time in the past somebody picked up the US by the east coast and shook it thus causing all the loose bits to settle at the bottom.

Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: The Biscuit Queen on Mar 08, 2008, 06:29 AM
gwallen, that was good.

This bill is appalling. I think you will start seeing a mass exodus from CA, making it, if possible, even more left leaning and socialist than before.

Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: FP on Mar 08, 2008, 11:31 AM

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/07/MNJDVF0F1.DTL

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A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation as a means of protecting the public welfare," the judge wrote,


I don't think I will be activly posting anything anywhere anymore.....I have work to do to prepare for the future.


Whats interesting is that was a quote from a 1961 ruling. 3R's are out, CPL is in. Tin foil hats for everyone?


and this: "I'm kind of hoping some truancy officer shows up on my doorstep," she said. "I'm ready. I have damn good arguments."

Quite honestly, she's gonna need a 12 gauge argument because she'll likely have a swat team at her door for daring to fight the state and neglecting her kids. But then, I'm biased against truancy officers. Back before the days of "zero tolerance" aka the mid 90s where I went to school, you get in a minor fight it was detention or a slap on the wrist. I was asaulted, defended myself, punches were thrown and who has to apologize to the bus driver for fighting? Me, because the nerd dare defend himself against the preppy who had made his own shiv in woodshop and hit my arm with it. Then I had an actual truancy "cop" with his own car with county logo tell me I had to go sit in school till it "officially ended" at 3pm, cause thats "the law". Told him my name, go check with the office what my schedule was as I had no more classes that day and that oh yeah, "we're an open campus sir, so I'm going home". Oh, my bad, I didnt own a car as if I did, no one would have bothered me when leaving. The "cop" was acutally smart and realized I wasn't worth his time and not up to any "trouble". Damn I hated high school and then people actually ask me why I didnt want to become a teacher. Many don't like my answer as it disrupts their cozy world view.
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: foldedintobeauty on Mar 08, 2008, 11:50 AM

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/07/MNJDVF0F1.DTL

From the article
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A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation as a means of protecting the public welfare," the judge wrote,


I don't think I will be activly posting anything anywhere anymore.....I have work to do to prepare for the future.


wow, that's fucked up. hope everyone votes for Ron Paul!
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: Cordell Walker on Mar 08, 2008, 12:16 PM
I voted Ron Paul
Title: Re: Homeschooling declared Illegal by CA courts
Post by: foldedintobeauty on Mar 08, 2008, 12:19 PM

I voted Ron Paul


me, too. i voted in the caucus, too. going to be a delegate for him.