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Gay ex-gov wins round in divorce court
By ANGELA DELLI SANTI, Associated Press Writer
Fri Mar 21, 1:53 AM ET
ELIZABETH, N.J. - Former Gov. Jim McGreevey didn't plan to torment his wife while they were married, a judge in their divorce case ruled Thursday, while allowing her to continue with a claim of marriage fraud.
The judge dismissed Dina Matos McGreevey's claim of emotional distress against her estranged gay husband.
"Mr. McGreevey was not out to destroy her emotionally," Superior Court Judge Karen Cassidy said.
Cassidy said she would permit the fraud claim to continue for now, but warned, "That does not guarantee the defendant will be successful in trying her claim."
Matos McGreevey claims she was duped into marrying a gay man who sought the cover of a wife to hide his homosexuality and further his political ambitions. He claims he provided companionship and a child, thus fulfilling his part of the marriage contract.
The pretrial hearing came less than a week after McGreevey, 50, said claims that he and his wife engaged in threesomes with a male aide were true; Matos McGreevey, 41, denied they happened.
Arriving with her attorney Thursday, Matos McGreevey said only "no comment" as she entered the courthouse. McGreevey also attended the hearing and said nothing on his way into or out of the courthouse.
His lawyer, Stephen Haller, said the judge's rulings encouraged his legal team. "Read between the lines," he said of the judge's words of caution in allowing the fraud claim to proceed.
Cassidy told the former first couple that their divorce trial, scheduled to start May 6, would get ugly.
"We all know what happened this week," she said. "What evidence will likely be heard in this case, this week was just the tip of the iceberg."
In interviews with The Star-Ledger of Newark and the New York Post, former McGreevey driver Teddy Pedersen said he had consensual sex with the couple for about two years before McGreevey became governor. He said he had contact only with Dina Matos McGreevey during the trysts and wasn't sure whether McGreevey was gay.
Pedersen, 29, said he came forward to support McGreevey's contention that his wife had to have known he was gay when they married. She says she had no clue.
Cassidy also agreed during Thursday's three-hour court proceeding to allow testimony from a financial expert hired by Matos McGreevey. McGreevey sought to bar CPA Kalman Barson's report, which claims she is entitled to much more money than what the ex-governor says he can afford to pay.
She is seeking $600,000 in compensation for the time she would have spent at the governor's mansion had he not resigned.
That estimate includes keeping with the "Drumthwacket lifestyle," which included use of state police helicopters, a personal assistant, household staff and use of the state's beach house. Drumthwacket is the governor's mansion.
Before McGreevey became governor, he made $52,000 a year as mayor of Woodbridge, and the couple lived in a condominium.
McGreevey left office in 2004 after acknowledging an affair with a male staffer who he said was trying to blackmail him. The ex-staffer denies being gay or having an affair, and said he was sexually harassed by the Democratic governor.
Cassidy also heard arguments on the custody of their 6-year-old daughter, but barred the media from that portion of the hearing. The judge this week sealed court records relating to the girl.
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So this is why feminists fought against the wedding vow: "To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness or in health, to love and to cherish 'till death do us part."
No, none of the "for worse" part; she faults her (soon to be ex-)husband for not being able to continue "in style". Fuckin' special... :rolle:
Wait a minute...if there is anything that has ALWAYS been fashionably feminist it has been being a fag hag.
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
Actually no. Many of us see gay men as the canary in the coal mine who get it worse also basically because they're men and see them as a valuable part of our movement.
When was the last time you heard of a lesbian getting beaten to death for being gay?
Also, every right based in what?
She's already interfering with his visitation.
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
Actually no.
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Many of us see gay men as the canary in the coal mine who get it worse also basically because they're men and see them as a valuable part of our movement. Oh, sure. Just use them for your cause.
When was the last time you heard of a lesbian getting beaten to death for being gay?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Teena[font=Verdana]zing![/font]
Also, every right based in what? based on the fucking vow he took on the altar. he betrayed her and lied to her.
She's already interfering with his visitation.good because he is so worthy to see the children he didn't even want to make.
if his wife is anything like you FIB, I can understand why he bacame a pillow biter
Wait a minute...if there is anything that has ALWAYS been fashionably feminist it has been being a fag hag.
Using a gay man as a mincing court jester and asexual 'funny friend', yes.
Married to one? The gloves come off.
When was the last time you heard of a lesbian getting beaten to death for being gay?
Brandon Teena was beaten to death for being a FtM transexual.
based on the fucking vow he took on the altar. he betrayed her and lied to her.
And that has what to do with his relationship to his children?
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
How do you know I'm not gay?.....propaganda enters ear....brain atrophies...knee jerks...
When was the last time you heard of a lesbian getting beaten to death for being gay?
Brandon Teena was beaten to death for being a FtM transexual.
based on the fucking vow he took on the altar. he betrayed her and lied to her.
And that has what to do with his relationship to his children?
I think you're mistaken. Theoretically, they aren't his children -- they're hers to do with as she sees fit.
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
How do you know I'm not gay?.....propaganda enters ear....brain atrophies...knee jerks...
i'm gay! great excuse
So this is what I'm hearing.
They had consensual threesomes with another man in which she was the 'hinge'(all sexual activity was directed towards her).
Something tells me she knew he liked men (doesn't mean he doesn't like women too) and that they both got into some kinky fun. But once it came out she dropped him like a hot potato and played the violated wife 'cause the gravy train was over.
i'm gay! great excuse
For not being a homophobe?
Well... I really think that's being a bit disingenous there...
I mean, he could be gay and a homophobe, but at that point I think he's the one who suffers most so it sort of renders the whole issue mute.
i'm gay! great excuse
For not being a homophobe?
Well... I really think that's being a bit disingenous there...
I mean, he could be gay and a homophobe, but at that point I think he's the one who suffers most so it sort of renders the whole issue mute.
no. he used a homophobic slur and i called him out on it, then he tries to cover his ass by implying he MIGHT be gay. fucking lame.
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
How do you know I'm not gay?.....propaganda enters ear....brain atrophies...knee jerks...
i'm gay! great excuse
The most misogynistic things I have ever heard uttered have come from the mouths of gay men. Gay men play fag hags just like pimps do. I did a documentary on transgenderism back in the 1970's. There are still lots of gaybars in Montreal where I would be welcome past the door....and YOU would not. Go make me a sandwich bitch.
no. he used a homophobic slur and i called him out on it, then he tries to cover his ass by implying he MIGHT be gay. fucking lame.
I think any gay man with brains can see you're no friend to men and since gay men are still men--despite feminism's insistance that they are actually women--they can probably make the logical connection that you are no friend to gay men either.
Fag hag is a slur on women.
no. he used a homophobic slur and i called him out on it, then he tries to cover his ass by implying he MIGHT be gay. fucking lame.
I think any gay man with brains can see you're no friend to men and since gay men are still men--despite feminism's insistance that they are actually women--they can probably make the logical connection that you are no friend to gay men either.
Fag hag is a slur on women.
fag is a homophobic slur, directed at them or not. i don't see gay men as women. i love the gays, though.
Here...do some youtubing...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fag+hag&search_type=
Each and every one produced by gays....you really should do some work on expanding your venacular vocabulary before you accuse people of things.
Here...do some youtubing...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fag+hag&search_type=
Each and every one produced by gays....you really should do some work on expanding your venacular vocabulary before you accuse people of things.
i KNOW what it means. fag is homophobic. fag hag. fag. it's still a stupid phrase. there is nothing WRONG with hanging out with homosexuals, either.
Here...do some youtubing...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fag+hag&search_type=
Each and every one produced by gays....you really should do some work on expanding your venacular vocabulary before you accuse people of things.
and learn how to spell veRnacular
Good point on Brandon Teena - something often covered up by the gay activists.
And FYI, F.I.B. - when it comes to the Gay Agenda, it's not the "Gay" part most object to - it's the "Agenda" part.
Whether I don't care if someone is gay or not isn't the point. As long as the lefty P.C. police want to make J. Random Citizen a thought criminal if he doesn't want jack to do with them, I am foursquare against it in every fashion. Such things are fascist in the extreme, and that is one of them.
Anyone has a perfect right to be both wrong and stupid, and to cling to that belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Even you.
Good point on Brandon Teena - something often covered up by the gay activists.
And FYI, F.I.B. - when it comes to the Gay Agenda, it's not the "Gay" part most object to - it's the "Agenda" part.
Whether I don't care if someone is gay or not isn't the point. As long as the lefty P.C. police want to make J. Random Citizen a thought criminal if he doesn't want jack to do with them, I am foursquare against it in every fashion. Such things are fascist in the extreme, and that is one of them.
Anyone has a perfect right to be both wrong and stupid, and to cling to that belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Even you.
depends on what you're referring to b/c you like to talk out of your arse so much.
i was FIRST to post about brandon teena, BTW.
Good point on Brandon Teena - something often covered up by the gay activists.
And FYI, F.I.B. - when it comes to the Gay Agenda, it's not the "Gay" part most object to - it's the "Agenda" part.
Whether I don't care if someone is gay or not isn't the point. As long as the lefty P.C. police want to make J. Random Citizen a thought criminal if he doesn't want jack to do with them, I am foursquare against it in every fashion. Such things are fascist in the extreme, and that is one of them.
Anyone has a perfect right to be both wrong and stupid, and to cling to that belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Even you.
depends on what you're referring to b/c you like to talk out of your arse so much.
i was FIRST to post about brandon teena, BTW.
Such witty repartee. Surely you are a worthy ranconteur.
And I was responding to the man who actually had something of substance to say, not to your uninformed misrepresentation.
Good point on Brandon Teena - something often covered up by the gay activists.
And FYI, F.I.B. - when it comes to the Gay Agenda, it's not the "Gay" part most object to - it's the "Agenda" part.
Whether I don't care if someone is gay or not isn't the point. As long as the lefty P.C. police want to make J. Random Citizen a thought criminal if he doesn't want jack to do with them, I am foursquare against it in every fashion. Such things are fascist in the extreme, and that is one of them.
Anyone has a perfect right to be both wrong and stupid, and to cling to that belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Even you.
depends on what you're referring to b/c you like to talk out of your arse so much.
i was FIRST to post about brandon teena, BTW.
Such witty repartee. Surely you are a worthy ranconteur.
And I was responding to the man who actually had something of substance to say, not to your uninformed misrepresentation.
ffs learn how to spell
Here...do some youtubing...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fag+hag&search_type=
Each and every one produced by gays....you really should do some work on expanding your venacular vocabulary before you accuse people of things.
and learn how to spell veRnacular
I have had to turn off my spell checker because it will not recognize the word "misandry"
You can make whatever accusations and obfuscations you want Ms paper origami...it will take a lot better effort than you have shown so far to hurt my credibility among those who matter here....as I said before...sexual orientation is about which gender you like...not which gender you hate and want to get lawyers to screw.
The fact that feminism's vanguard is composed of three-titted butch struting diesel dykes who are allergic to men and to all things male is no secret to those who frequent this site.
You will also find that college campus interdictions of words deemed to be not politically correct has no influence here...and as for spelling mistakes....women is not spelled with the letter y. A lot of contemporary academics seem to be a tad illiterate on that score.
Here...do some youtubing...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fag+hag&search_type=
Each and every one produced by gays....you really should do some work on expanding your venacular vocabulary before you accuse people of things.
and learn how to spell veRnacular
I have had to turn off my spell checker because it will not recognize the word "misandry"
You can make whatever accusations and obfuscations you want Ms paper origami...it will take a lot better effort than you have shown so far to hurt my credibility among those who matter here....as I said before...sexual orientation is about which gender you like...not which gender you hate and want to get lawyers to screw.
The fact that feminism's vanguard is composed of three-titted butch struting diesel dykes who are allergic to men and to all things male is no secret to those who frequent this site.
You will also find that college campus interdictions of words deemed to be not politically correct has no influence here...and as for spelling mistakes....women is not spelled with the letter y. A lot of contemporary academics seem to be a tad illiterate on that score.
ooo ms. paper origami. catchy
who cares if feminists happen to be butch diesel dykes? another swipe at the gays. if you didn't know men are the ones who decided how to spell things and women don't appreciate men in their name. i prefer WOMByn
ooo ms. paper origami. catchy
who cares if feminists happen to be butch diesel dykes? another swipe at the gays.
No, at the lesbians. At least gay men are happy people.
if you didn't know men are the ones who decided how to spell things
Two words. Noah Webster.
You stand corrected.
Thanks for playing.
and women don't appreciate men in their name. i prefer WOMByn
I am sure you do, sugar-tits. I'm sure other ladies on here see themselves as more than an incubator with legs, though.
i prefer WOMByn
LOL. Wombyn is pretty good.
makes me think of wombats
i prefer WOMByn
LOL. Wombyn is pretty good.
Yeah it really points to my whole theory of femomism.
makes me think of wombats
wombat stew. i had a book about that
they probably taste like chicken
Ms Origami, I would also like to point out that I could chant the words "women"or "gay"as many times as I want but that would not entitle me to speak for them collectively. (There was a UK Human Rights Ruling this year to that effect that would LEGALY set that precedent above and beyond any of your opinions or obfuscations).
It also would not entitle YOU in the role of self appointed feminazi gauleiter to arrogantly declare to us that YOU speak for women (by whatever way you wish to misspell it as an expression of misandry) speak for women or gays collectively.
Your oppinion counts no more than anyone else's in a court of law.
Women are not conjoined at the skull like Siamese twins, and even if they were that would not mean that they have any sort of collective group think.
Neither are gays.....my brother in law who is living with HIV had a very masculine partner who died of AIDS. .My ex was full time staff at two different provincial HIV support networks. Having been in the close company and working relationship with gays for some time I freely use their street vernacular.
I owe you nor any other self appointed feminazi gauleiter any justification for my assertion that you calling me a homophobe has no credibility. I have voluntarily supported the dying.
ooo ms. paper origami. catchy
who cares if feminists happen to be butch diesel dykes? another swipe at the gays.
No, at the lesbians. At least gay men are happy people.
if you didn't know men are the ones who decided how to spell things
Two words. Noah Webster.
You stand corrected.
Thanks for playing.
and women don't appreciate men in their name. i prefer WOMByn
I am sure you do, sugar-tits. I'm sure other ladies on here see themselves as more than an incubator with legs, though.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sugar-tits!
TMOTS
In the words of Stompin Tom Connors...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rigiFWkqw
This song ain't over YET!!!
they probably taste like chicken
But smell like fish...the kind that really don't need a bicycle..but then again...why would a bicycle need barracuda or white sharks?
Here...do some youtubing...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fag+hag&search_type=
Each and every one produced by gays....you really should do some work on expanding your venacular vocabulary before you accuse people of things.
and learn how to spell veRnacular
I have had to turn off my spell checker because it will not recognize the word "misandry"
You can make whatever accusations and obfuscations you want Ms paper origami...it will take a lot better effort than you have shown so far to hurt my credibility among those who matter here....as I said before...sexual orientation is about which gender you like...not which gender you hate and want to get lawyers to screw.
The fact that feminism's vanguard is composed of three-titted butch struting diesel dykes who are allergic to men and to all things male is no secret to those who frequent this site.
You will also find that college campus interdictions of words deemed to be not politically correct has no influence here...and as for spelling mistakes....women is not spelled with the letter y. A lot of contemporary academics seem to be a tad illiterate on that score.
ooo ms. paper origami. catchy
who cares if feminists happen to be butch diesel dykes? another swipe at the gays. if you didn't know men are the ones who decided how to spell things and women don't appreciate men in their name. i prefer WOMByn
Just for your information..I can reacll frolicing in a jaccuzzi with a lesbian couple...girls liking girls is not the issue...it is girls who do not like boys getting mandarin appointments as legal policy advisors (from a feminist perspective) that is the issue..... and you can do the snake coil as many times as you want I am on to this pattern of rhetoric and so is evry other MRA on this and every other Mra site in the network....sorry witch.... your magic words have no power here .
How can you post a Stompin Tom song without a link to this one? :occasion18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZWxErEbQkY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZWxErEbQkY&feature=related)
Stompin Tom is the greatest Canadian ever! :toothy9:
kirk johnson is the greatest canuckistani
Good for him. I hope his ex-wife gets nothing.
homophobes in here, i see.
she has every right to sue that man
No she didn't. She should suck it up, too bad for her. She probably married him, hoping for that kind of lifestyle and it backfired. Besides, How many men have found out that their wives were lesbians and got screwed over as a result? I will say a hell of a lot more husbands have been screwed due to a lesbian spouse than wives.
I'm a bit torn on this one, simply because I believe McGreevey is a hypocritical piece of excrement. I have pity for the wife (not buying some of the rumors flying around just yet) but I don't think she deserves 600k "lifestyle I'm accustomed to" money. My cyncial side says she should've had better dirt on him to use as hush money.
She probably married him, hoping for that kind of lifestyle ...
I think you can safely delete "probably".