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Title: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Men's Rights Activist on Aug 22, 2008, 09:03 AM
I post this from time to time to see if there are any corrections, or additions, that people can help me with.  This project originally began out of disgust over a foolish and inaccurate male privilege list that I saw foisted on a public gathering by a male gender feminist.

Men are:  

99.999% of American combat deaths and casualties (historically)
http://thewall-usa.com/information.asp
http://thewall-usa.com/women.asp
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/other/stats/warcost.htm

97%+ since the 1st Gulf War (DOD)
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/female.aspx
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/other/stats/warcost.htm

"The numbers of wounded women and female amputees, meanwhile, are considerably less than their male counterparts--at least 378 wounded versus 17,490; 11 amputees versus over 400--but they are historic for modern day warfare."
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2755/context/archive

A Pentagon study published in March on the mental health of soldiers returning from deployment to Iraq and Afghanistan found that more than one- third of U.S. soldiers received psychological counseling. A statistic buried in the study: 23.6 percent of women reported a mental health concern compared with 18.6 percent of men.
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2755/context/archive

(currently, women are not even required by law to register for selective service, but even retarded or physically disabled men are, in addition to all the healthy ones)

94% of industrial deaths and accident (NIOSH)
(Even though murder is the leading workplace cause of death for women, a statistic often used by gender feminists, that number is only a percentage of the 6% of workplace deaths that women comprise.  In other words, "a fraction of a small fraction.")

Men are:

76% of homicides DOJ
80% of Suicides CDC

# Suicide took the lives of 30,622 people in 2001 (CDC 2004).
# Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men (Anderson and Smith 2003).
# 24,672 suicide deaths reported among men in 2001.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm
24,672 / 30,622 = .8056952
(or in other words, over 80% of all suicide deaths in 2001 were male)

also:
http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec15/ch205/ch205a.html
"Suicide ranks 11th among causes of death in the US, with 30,622 completed suicides in 2001. It is the 3rd leading cause of death among people 15 to 24 yr. Men ≥ 75 yr have the highest rate of death by suicide. Among all age groups, male deaths by suicide outnumber female deaths by 4:1."


http://www.glennsacks.com/distraught_fathers_courthouse.htm
"The other most common suicide victims are divorced and/or estranged fathers like Derrick Miller. In fact, a divorced father is ten times more likely to commit suicide than a divorced mother, and three times more likely to commit suicide than a married father. According to Los Angeles divorce consultant Jayne Major:
"Divorced men are often devastated by the loss of their children. It's a little known fact that in the United States men initiate only a small number of the divorces involving children. Most of the men I deal with never saw their divorces coming, and they are often treated very unfairly by the family courts.'"

A woman is the party filing for divorce in about 66% of divorce cases.
http://www.pobronson.com/blog/2006/07/will-this-marriage-last-who-wants-out.html
"How often was it that many more of women wanted the divorce more than the men?
2/3. The same as the amount responsible for divorce filings. And yet another study of divorced couples found that the majority of divorced wives and husbands both agreed it was the wife who wanted out."

Women receive custody in about 84% of child custody cases.

In the spring of 2002, an estimated
13.4 million parents had custody of
21.5 million children under 21 years of
age whose other parent lived somewhere
else. About 5 of every 6 custodial parents
were mothers (84.4 percent) and 1
in 6 were fathers (15.6 percent), proportions
statistically unchanged since 1994
(Table A).
http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p60-225.pdf

Paternity fraud is rampant in the U.S.
30% of those named as fathers - bilked of child support unjustly
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48871

Of the top fifteen leading causes of death, men lead in 12 categories, are tied in two and trail in one.  Even though more women die of heart disease each year, men die of heart disease many years earlier.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/finaldeaths03_tables.pdf

http://www.sentencingproject.org/Admin/Documents/publications/inc_factsaboutprisons.pdf

The 2006 United States' rate of incarceration of 751 inmates per 100,000 population is the highest reported rate in the world, well ahead of the Russian rate of 628 per 100,000.

93% of the prison population is male with over 60% having no High School education.   America has now passed Russia as the country that has the largest percentage of its population incarcerated, yet we still claim to be the freest country on earth.

The number of persons on probation and parole has been growing dramatically along with institutional populations. There are now 7.2 million Americans incarcerated or on probation or parole, an increase of more than 290 percent since 1980.


http://www.sentencingproject.org/
205 (and growing) wrongly convicted people have been exonerated by DNA evidence since the beginning of the Innocence Project.

204 of the wrongly convicted were men.

Most of them had charges of rape against them.  
http://www.innocenceproject.org/
As we see in the Duke Lacrosse rape case  fiasco, false accusers are rarely prosecuted and when they are it is only as a misdemeanor (at most), while rape itself is vigorously prosecuted as a felony.

One attorney speaking at premiere for the movie, After Innocence, estimates that there are between 20,000 and 100,000 wrongly convicted still in prison.

We hear a lot about the historical oppression of women's voting rights, but few if any women who were born in the 20th century were every without the right to vote in their lifetime, upon reaching legal voting age.  On the other hand, around 2400 hundred California men (42% of CA men killed in Vietnam) gave their life for their country without being allowed by their country to vote.  The exact number is 2,381.  Four of the twelve Iwo Jimo flag raisers died for their country without their country ever allowing them the right to vote.  
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/a-b/blumhorst/2005/blumhorst052805.htm

http://www.thewall-usa.com/names.asp
"The youngest Vietnam KIA is believed to be Dan Bullock USMC, at 15 years old.
At least 5 men killed in Vietnam were 16 years old.
At least 12 men killed in Vietnam were 17 years old.
There are 120 persons who listed foreign countries as their home of record.
At least 25,000 of those killed were 20 years old or younger.
The oldest man killed was 62 years old."

If you do a full count on all the men in the 20th century who died for their country without being allowed to vote the numbers will be staggering.

In America there are over 270 women's commissions, but only one for men in New Hampshire.

There are over 700 Women's Studies programs on colleges and universities throughout the United States teaching thousands or tens of thousands of classes from the gender feminist perspective, but not one program or class, teaching men's studies from the masculist perspective.

Men are a significant percentage of domestic violence (26% of intimate partner homicides), yet are denied service at most tax payer funded domestic violence shelters. In contrast, women get every veteran's benefit a man does, yet comprise less than 3% of combat deaths or casualties and a woman makes the cover of Time magazine (person of the year/2003 standing in front of two men.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2003/200312225a.jpg

It appears to me American men are routinely treated like 2nd class citizens in their own country.  CDC lists male victims of domestic violence at more than 34%, but men injured in Iraq (and all other men) are by law in California excluded from domestic violence shelter services. They would have a lot of trouble getting in a CA shelter if some evening the little misses puts a frying pan to their head.  Only one shelter in Lancaster, CA accepts men and it has been extensively harassed for doing so.

Someone online pointed out in a post that some people say breast cancer is a greater concern in women than prostate cancer in men based on reported deaths overall.  Are we considering that men today die on average 6 years sooner than women?  I read somewhere that around 1920 the death rates were roughly equal.  The death rates for prostate and breast cancer are similar, but because men die of other things more frequently-accidents ,war, heart disease etc., there are fewer men left to die of prostate cancer.  "This would be akin to saying people from a nation like Zimbabwe are immune to Alzheimer's- but in fact they die of other things before they can get old enough to contract Alzheimer's."

The Socialist/Communist wage gap myth based on the "comparable worth" paradigm:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/04/23/the-gender-feminist-wage-gap-myth-appears-to-be-growing-legs/

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/04/23/gender-feminist-wage-gap-myth-appears-to-be-growing-legs-part-ii/

Spending Gap:

http://www.amazon.com/Pocketbook-Power-Hearts-Coveted-Consumer/dp/0071418601/sr=1-1/qid=1167804358/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6478055-3977644?ie=UTF8&s=books
or
http://tinyurl.com/sf342
Pocketbook Power: How to Reach the Hearts and Minds of Today's Most Coveted Consumer - Women
Bernice Kanner
From the Back Cover

Not too long ago, legendary adman David Ogilvy chided his peers for talking down to women. He berated those who ignored women or discounted them, misconstruing men's higher paychecks to mean greater spending clout. And he was right. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, women--who comprise just over 51 percent of the U.S. population, making them the largest consumer segment in the country--control six trillion dollars in buying power annually. Statistics show that:

Women make 88 percent of all U.S. retail purchases. Some experts even predict that, by 2020, women will control most of the money in America.

Women control 88 percent of all purchases.

Women handle 75 percent of family finances. 43 percent of those with assets over $500,000 are women.

One out of every 11 women in America owns a business.

Women influence two out of every three of the 3 trillion dollars spent in the U.S. each year!


Men die on average about 5 years earlier than women, but no compensation is made in the Social Security System's retirement age for this disparity.

Exactly which areas those were, he couldn't say..."
How about equal rights in parenting, domestic violence policies, criminal sentencing, paternity, forced labor, military conscription, public health policies, genital integrity, false accusations, reproductive rights, and equal rights across the board?
'How come you never talk about men? You don't blog about areas where men are underrepresented!' Exactly which areas those were, he couldn't say..."  They also are underrepresented in enrollment on college and university campuses based on their numbers in the general population.

The DVD is entitled, Scottsboro An American Tragedy.
Here is the quote (exactly) I was thinking of:
"The protection of white womanhood, it might be the pivot around all Southern culture. The 5,000 people who are lynched from 1880 to 1940, most of those are cases of black men accused of raping, or sexually assaulting white women." - Robin Kelly, Historian, African-American man
From the back cover of the DVD box:
"In 1931, two white women stepped from a boxcar in Paint Rock, Alabama to make a shocking accusation: they had been raped by nine black teenagers on the train."
and
"- a poor white woman whose lie lends her respectability..."
PBS Home Video
American Experience, a production of WGBH Boston
Academy Award Nominee for Best Documentary
Scottsboro An American Tragedy
The case that sparked the civil rights movement
2001 WGBH Educational Foundation
2005 Artwork PBS

Between 1890 and 1917, two hundred thirty thousand (230,000) railroad workers were killed.  In 1920 there were 2, 000, 000 railroad workers.  One of the most dangerous jobs was "brakeman."  Each car had to be stopped manually and it was the brakeman's job to stop four or five cars.  The brakeman walked on top of the RR cars and turned a wheel, putting the brakes "on" for each car.  It was not unheard of for a brakeman to be thrown from the top of a RR car.

Source:  "Freight Trains," Modern Marvels, The History Channel, 2006

http://fallenfathers.blogspot.com/2007/03/children-without-fathers-statistics.html

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) - 5 times the average.
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes - 32 times the average.
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes - 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes --14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes - 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes - 10 times the average. (Rainbows for All God's Children)
70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes - 9 times the average. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)
85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes - 20 times the average. (Fulton Co. Georgia, Texas Dept. of Correction)


Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: SIAM on Aug 22, 2008, 09:17 AM
An incredible list. 

It's clear from that list that men are benefitting from a patriarchy and that women are dreadfully oppressed.  Here's hoping women can catch up with men and enjoy the benefits we've enjoyed over the years :icon_cyclops_ani:
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Virtue on Aug 22, 2008, 09:22 AM
Dr E could you sticky this so its always at the top?.....My god this is AWESOME.....a complete list with links .....MAN using this already !
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: SIAM on Aug 22, 2008, 10:59 AM
I second that, Virtue.  Let's have this in a place where it can be found.  This is a great reference for guys and gals battling it out on other forums - get your stats here! (references provided too). 
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Crusoe on Aug 22, 2008, 04:35 PM
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Dr E could you sticky this so its always at the top?.....My god this is AWESOME.....a complete list with links .....MAN using this already !


Fantastic idea! Damn good work, Men's Rights Activist.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Nillerz on Aug 22, 2008, 06:10 PM

Dr E could you sticky this so its always at the top?.....My god this is AWESOME.....a complete list with links .....MAN using this already !

this

Also, I'd like to state that I have started to memorize this entire list, since I believe a lack of statistics in real life debates takes from my credibility.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Men's Rights Activist on Aug 22, 2008, 06:32 PM
While all the appreciation of the list is nice, I was hoping for some additional items to be added to the list.  I've been keeping (building) that list for several years now.  By all means, use the stats, but also fact check and verify everything for yourself too.  It's all part of our educational process.  I hope nothing is outdated.   I hope all the links are still good.

Yes, I've been able to put some serious frost on conversations with gender feminists, or gender feminist toadies with quotes from that list.  Mostly, I've used it when blogging and seen nasty gender feminist arguments evaporate before my very eyes.  
:violent4:
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Mr. X on Aug 22, 2008, 09:32 PM
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Even though murder is the leading workplace cause of death for women


This would actually be a good thing for women for workplace deaths. If the leading cause of death in the workplace for women was something obscure like murder (like getting hit by a meteor) then deaths are rare indeed.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: mens_issues on Aug 22, 2008, 09:48 PM

Between 1890 and 1917, two hundred thirty thousand (230,000) railroad workers were killed.  In 1920 there were 2, 000, 000 railroad workers.  One of the most dangerous jobs was "brakeman."  Each car had to be stopped manually and it was the brakeman's job to stop four or five cars.  The brakeman walked on top of the RR cars and turned a wheel, putting the brakes "on" for each car.  It was not unheard of for a brakeman to be thrown from the top of a RR car.


One of my great uncles, William Van Valkenburg, died at 24 in a railyard accident in 1912 by being crushed between two railway cars.  His father Edward died twenty years earlier at 31 by being crushed by a falling tree while gathering wood.

I had a post earlier this year related to this topic titled "My Great Grandmother's Diaries"

http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?topic=15134.0

Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Men's Rights Activist on Aug 23, 2008, 12:02 AM
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"One of my great uncles, William Van Valkenburg, died at 24 in a railyard accident in 1912 by being crushed between two railway cars."


My Dad had me late in his life so I grew up hearing lots of stories about steam engines.  As a kid I loved to hear them, but didn't fully understand what he was saying.  He used to sing a verse or two of this song to me - as best he could sing. :-)

I guess this was his favorite, or at least it's the one I remember.

He was going down the grade making 90 miles an hour,
When his whistle began to scream,
He was found in that wreck with his hand on the throttle,
He was scalded to death by the steam.


http://www.blueridgeinstitute.org/ballads/old97song.html

http://www.talkeetna.com/Reviews/Old97/Old97.html

http://www.blueridgeinstitute.org/ballads/old97.html

Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: typhonblue on Nov 03, 2008, 02:14 AM
Two items you might want to consider adding.

Girl's right to genital integrity vs. boy's lack of said right. And some statistics on the number of men who are victims of Male Genital Mutilation.

The Garbage Gap. Rather then looking at the proportion of men in the top spots (politicians, CEOs, etc.) to the number of females, I propose considering an additional factor. Find out the number of men to women in the worst-ranked jobs. Off the top of my head I believe it is 98:2. And the really top jobs, for example, are something like 80:20. We'd also need to know how many people are employed in the worst jobs out there and also the top jobs. I'm guessing at least one to two million truck drivers, lumberjacks, sewer workers, garbagemen, etc.(I imagine this is conservative) And maybe 50,000 CEOs, politicians, etc.

Now the fun bit! Let's combine these! 980,000 to 1,960,000 men in the crapsack jobs. 20,000 to 40,000 women in the crapsack jobs. Let's add 100,000 prostitutes(this lumps in streetwalkers with call-girls). We got 120,000-140,000 women.

Now let's look at the figures for the top spots. 40,000 men to 10,000 women.

Here's where the magic comes in. Now we take the proportion of men and men in crapsack jobs and compare it to the number of men and women in the top spots.

For every... 24.5 to 49 guys who are working the worst jobs in the US, there is 1(ONE) man in a top spot.

For every... 12 to 14 gals who are working the worst jobs in the US there is 1 woman in the top spot.

That's some mighty fine odds in their favor!


Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: dr e on Nov 03, 2008, 08:11 AM
Typhon!  Always good to see you.  Agree that genital mutilation should be added.  Also agree that the female tendency toward predominance in the middle standard deviations and men's tendency to dominate the extremes has left feminists with the tendency to compare the men's best with the women's middle (orange with yellow).  They will never compare the women's middle with the men's worst.  (orange with green)  Go figure.

(http://standyourground.com/images/mox2.jpg)
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Renegade on Mar 11, 2009, 07:37 PM

An incredible list. 

It's clear from that list that men are benefitting from a patriarchy and that women are dreadfully oppressed.  Here's hoping women can catch up with men and enjoy the benefits we've enjoyed over the years :icon_cyclops_ani:


And popular culture (movies, TV shows, comics, etc) are STILL stating that this is a "man's" world and women are "fighting" for "equality". Our world has taken up permanent residence in The Twilight Zone  :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :yikes: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Mr. X on Mar 13, 2009, 09:32 AM
Who built everything and either did it for bullshit wages or as slaves? Men. For the vast history of human kind BOTH men and women had no rights. Only a tiny minority of elite (a portion of which were women) had any rights at all. So its BS to say women were oppressed through out history when men also had no choices and very little to no rights. Pyramids, Empire State Building, bridges, dams sky scrapers, whole cities built by men either as slaves or for measly wages and no say. I'd take being a glorified baby sitter over risking dying on the job every day any day of the week.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: thebigmanfred on Apr 02, 2009, 03:05 PM
I think this list is pretty impressive.  One thing you could include on list are statistics on male rape and sexual abuse of men.  It may be a difficult to get such stats though.  Also some more information on male expend ability (as I've heard it called, the idea of women and children first that actively kills men).  Countless men have died, and are dying now because services are denied to them on the basis of women and children first. 
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: thebigmanfred on Apr 04, 2009, 04:36 PM
Birth and Death
For every 100 girls that are conceived 115 boys are conceived. http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-3840.html
For every 100 girl babies born there are 105 boy babies born. http://www.census.gov/prod/2005pubs/06statab/vitstat.pdf
For every 100 girl babies who die in the first 27 days of life 129 boy babies die. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr54/nvsr54_13.pdf
For every 100 girl babies who die after the first 27 days but in the first year of life 136 boy babies die. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr54/nvsr54_13.pdf
For every 100 girls ages 1 to 4 years who die 132 boys die. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr54/nvsr54_13.pdf
For every 100 girls ages 5 to 14 years who die 148 boys die. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr54/nvsr54_13.pdf
For every 100 girls and women ages 15 to 24 years who die 277 boys and men die. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr54/nvsr54_13.pdf


K-12 Education
For every 100 girls enrolled in nursery school there are 112 boys enrolled. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school/cps2004.html
For every 100 girls enrolled in kindergarten there are 116 boys enrolled. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school/cps2004.html
For every 100 girls who repeat kindergarten 194 boys repeat kindergarten. http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/2006064.pdf
For every 100 girls whose entry into kindergarten is delayed 150 boys are delayed. http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/2006064.pdf
For every 100 girls enrolled in elementary grades there are 107 boys enrolled. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school/cps2004.html
For every 100 fourth grade girls who do one or more hours of homework each day 92 boys do the same. http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d04/tables/dt04_140.asp
For every 100 fourth grade girls who watch television four or more hours per day 123 boys do. http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d04/tables/dt04_140.asp
For every 100 girls ages 9 to 11 years enrolled below modal grade there are 102 boys enrolled below modal grade. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school.html
For every 100 girls ages 12 to 14 years enrolled below modal grade there are 129 boys enrolled below modal grade. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school.html
For every 100 girls ages 15 to 17 years enrolled below modal grade there are 137 boys enrolled below modal grade. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school.html
For every 100 girls enrolled in ninth grade there are 101 boys enrolled. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school/cps2004.html
For every 100 girls enrolled in tenth grade there are 94 boys enrolled. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/school/cps2004.html


I thought this info might also be worthy of addition to the current list.  The info is from http://www.postsecondary.org/archives/previous/ForEvery100Girls.pdf.  There's more on the list so check it if you're interested.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Captain Courageous on Sep 05, 2009, 03:58 PM
I am not being either facetious or sarcastic here when I write that you've compiled enough material for a good book ... one that needs to be published, and one that will either get buried real fast or become a best-seller. Give it some serious thought. If you need one, get a ghost-writer and a literary agent. (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-033.gif)
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: wh666 on Feb 05, 2012, 07:38 AM

Who built everything and either did it for bullshit wages or as slaves? Men. For the vast history of human kind BOTH men and women had no rights. Only a tiny minority of elite (a portion of which were women) had any rights at all. So its BS to say women were oppressed through out history when men also had no choices and very little to no rights. Pyramids, Empire State Building, bridges, dams sky scrapers, whole cities built by men either as slaves or for measly wages and no say. I'd take being a glorified baby sitter over risking dying on the job every day any day of the week.


Exactly.  Historically women have had it far easier than men.  That notion you discuss annoys me just as much as the tired excuses from black people for their racism.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Vet/Father on Aug 14, 2012, 02:50 AM
Hate Crime men s rights are not human rights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehM-GU0OyXo#ws)
Feminism Nazism Feminist Domestic Violence Industry Evil Lies Indoctrination VAWA Fraud (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdfNcUga7dE#)
Feminism: Recipe for slavery (1 of 8) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U4c7Ldua2o#)
The Womens Studies Freak Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNXXNeV94Gg#)
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Swift on Aug 15, 2013, 05:32 PM
That's a pretty comprehensive list.

The only stat I'd have to mention that I'd say may be inaccurate is the one about paternity fraud.

The 30% stat comes from a study where some almost 300,000 tests looking for paternity turned out to be negative in that the reported father was not the father who supplied the sperm.

However, if you take the lowest estimate of paternity fraud, about 4%, that is still about 150,000 kids each year in North America who don't know their bio-dad.

That's pretty scary when you look at it in the long run and considering that the rate of paternity fraud is likely to go up, not down.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Men's Oppression List
Post by: Arteas on Aug 28, 2015, 11:16 PM
My god this is AWESOME.