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Messages - closetrightyNYC
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My mistake in figuring someone could deal with a strong rejection of their attitude.
Deal with disagreement = yes. Being told off and sworn at = something you'll find not very many people appreciate. For that reason, you are officially on ignore (and only the 2nd person i've ignored since registering, btw). I get henpecked enough in the real world; I don't log online to be completely disrespected and treated like a child. I have done nothing to you, and certainly nothing to warrant being sworn at.
Ciao for now. It's been fun.
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No, actually we're not agreeing.
You sympathized with the victimist nutjobs. I didn't.
Let's make this real simple so you can understand it.
I said, "I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MEN BEING ATTRACTED TO ME," provided that they don't overstep my boundaries.
Tell me how I sympathized with the feminists who bust out the pepper spray when they see a man.
Shall I instead have no boundaries whatsoever and learn to love it when a guy interrupts me while I'm working because he's desperate for attention, or knowingly asks an engaged woman on a date?
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closetrightynyc said:
It's not really anti-male, in my opinion. Would you appreciate a woman who flat-out refuses to respect your boundaries after you've told her you're already spoken for or would like to be left alone? Nobody likes a hang-on or a stalker. For straight women, we're going to get annoyed with males, because they are the ones who hang on us. For straight men, they usually find the same annoying from women. It's not anti-anybody. To me, it's common sense--you don't cross the line.
First off, I am a straight woman, so you can kindly fuck off with your 'for straight women' argument.
Now, for the rest of it. When someone doesn't get the hint immediately that I am not interested, or when someone says hello to me, or when someone buys an extra yogurt for me, I do not think like the Mseries do. These are actions which they see as scary or threatening. Not the mere 'annoyance' of someone who won't give it up, but scary.
There is a difference there. A huge one.
There is. And we're agreeing, so was the infantile "fuck off" really necessary?
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And nyet, I didn't say "everything" is threatening, I was referring to men approaching women with certain kinds of pushy come-ons. I can give you some examples if you want, but I think you know what I mean.
Still bullshit.
It's the same old anti-male pap. I think that what these 'I want to be a victim' freaks are on about being 'pushy' is actually normal human interaction, and they want it to be something worse so that they can scream their misandrist heads off about how they are victims of scary, frightening men.
--It's not really anti-male, in my opinion. Would you appreciate a woman who flat-out refuses to respect your boundaries after you've told her you're already spoken for or would like to be left alone? Nobody likes a hang-on or a stalker. For straight women, we're going to get annoyed with males, because they are the ones who hang on us. For straight men, they usually find the same annoying from women. It's not anti-anybody. To me, it's common sense--you don't cross the line.
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Bilbo, I would say a lot of it has to do with manners. I'm not going to mace somebody just for saying hello --that's a tad overreactive, I think, and possibly grounds to sue for assault-- but if he's got the manners of a billy goat, then he will get little to no attention from me.
I like guys being attracted to me, but it doesn't mean I am inviting them to grab my boob or squeeze my butt. If he does that right off the bat, he'll find my knee in his nuts. I plain don't tolerate such crass behavior, and the sooner he knows it the better. I'm probably one of the more old fashioned types that wants to be treated like a lady.
One thing I have learned to do is to be patient with some of the guys who aren't so smooth, and to give them a chance to relax and show me what kind of guy he is. Some guys just need a lady to show a little patience. Jack was actually one of those struggling types, but I gave him a chance, and I got a great friend as a result of that patience. However, guys, if a lady is willing to be patient to let you relax and be yourself, try to relax as soon as possible! She can't wait forever until you get your nerve! And always mind your manners!
I agree with Alicia. Sure it's flattering to have guys attracted to me, even though I'm very taken, but please, just because I'm reading alone in the Starbucks or enjoying a solitary Corona in the bar, it does NOT mean it's your cue to start talking to me or hitting on me. There are some guys who will bother me when they SEE that i'm working on something, playing a game, or obviously not flirting, and then they won't take the hint that a) I'm engaged, see my ring b) i'm not in the mood to chat, or c) I'm simply not interested. Some will start hanging on me when they see that talking isn't getting them anywhere. That kind of thing I find annoying, not so much from a feminist perspective but a politeness perspective. And it goes both ways--I'm sure the guys here wouldn't appreciate a girl who insists on hanging on their shoulders, talking to them when they're busy, or asking them out AFTER seeing your wedding ring or girlfriend. It's common courtesy to respect others' boundaries.
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I've become increasingly conservative since being with my fiance. Not to please him per se, but because I've been influenced by many of his ideas (Before, I was mainly exposed to liberals only). But I do agree that it's easier when your politics are similar--to me, political views are essentially values, and how can you have a really compatible relationship with polar-opposite values. My parents are of the "he's right-wing, she left-socialist" variety, and it sucks. They once had a shouting match about the Gulf War, right in front of me. I was 12. Scary.
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They walked in and began to take down my RON-BO (Reagan, that is) poster, and my Evil Empire poster. Talking some leftist nonsense.
So I shut the door and beat holy shit out of them. I guess they forgot the martial arts certificates were there too.
The good part is, I called the sheriff instead of the campus police, and by the time the campus police showed up, they were handcuffed to a stretecher for breaking and entering and assault. Of course, admin was annoyed about me involving "outsiders" but one call from my attorney convinced them that disciplinoing me for exercising my constitutional rights would have been a Very Bad Idea.
I was never so much as said "boo" to again. Who says violence doesn't solve anything?
Applause! Sheep go silently for slaughter. One of the disasters is that campus has its own judicial system. A university should educate, not do policing.
I always love it when after we involve the actual law, all the PC socialist bullshit just doesn't fly. It really sticks it to the universities, and I love when it happens.
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I know!! Sick, sick, sick. Feminazi: Everyone must take personal responsibility. Except feminist women. Then we get a break.
:evil:
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Big fat naked guys..?
Well, obviously Mrs. Claus likes the fat old variety, or else there wouldn't be a Mrs. Claus, right?
Is Santa going to get accused by feminists of molesting his elves?
:twisted:
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There is a fair amount of Santa porn on the web if you like this kind of thing. Just google search it.
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Yeppers, here is the theory behind it from the other (dark) side.
Parting shot from the article:
Thus, to all men who complain about paying child support for children they did not want, the simple advice is, "Shut up and put on a condom. And dispose of it yourself."
This is feminist hypocrisy exposed, isn't it! Feminists don't hesitate to say to guys, "Personal responsibility! Keep your pants on! Why didn't you use a condom?" instead of helping them out. But the woman is never, ever accountable--it's borderline illegal to say, "Why was she wearing that? Why did she seduce him? Why didn't she keep her legs closed?"
I find it sick, the way feminazis operate.
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Hmm....let's see, when did I first start hearing about PC stuff? Probably on one of our trips to Disneyland when I was a child in the '80's, and noticed that they were suddenly referring to "flight attendants" not "stewardesses." I also remember when they changed the Aunt Jemima logo. And we had this crazy Atheist lady in Madison who nailed all the Merry Christmasses in the public schools, somewhere around 1988. Aside from that, I don't remember *when* everything changed, just the fact that it *did*. It was odd.
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Actually, a lot of feminazi activists are also victims. The ones who will be like, "Well, this guy and this guy screwed me over, so I don't recommend dating, period." I never really did agree with this mentality--I could have had it too since I too was screwed over and hurt a lot, but then I got lucky. to me, that thinking is dangerously close to the "A black man shot my dad, so now I'm a white supremacist." I'm not saying all MRA's have this mentality, just those who believe in "eradicating" marriage because theirs didn't work, or whatever. The extremists. And that includes feminists.
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Well, it's a mix of that and Jesus-is-born stuff, but I doubt they'd be offended as well. I'm disturbed by the fact that NYC's political correctness has put this paranoia in my head to begin with. Well, not just NY actually--there was a girl on my dorm floor freshman year who would walk into people's rooms and turn their christmas music down because she "didn't want to hear it." So, maybe this has basis in experience.
Neighbors are cool however.
