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Messages - Christiane

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Main / Teacher gender important
Aug 29, 2006, 03:58 PM
Quote from: "The Biscuit Queen"
I was reading an article about Sally Ride in the Smithsonian. She goes around to schools and preaches for women's involvement in the sciences. She claims that so many girls are still told they cannot be scientists, that girls are discouraged, that they don't know they have these options. She uses Lawrence Summers comment (that girls in general are not as interested in math/science) to say that these men claim girls cannot do math and sciences.

I don't know where she is visiting, or if she asks leading questions to get these results, but I have never seen a girl discouraged from math and sciences. Textbooks go out of their way to show girls in these positions, programs in schools promote girls in these subjects, and teachers routinely treat girls as better students. I think Sally Ride is seeing and hearing what she wants to, or many of these girls have learned to spin a good tale for attention. I doubt there are many schools which discourage girls from going in the sciences.

I have a student in my Professional Practice class who is in her 30's. She went to Clarkson for engineering because that is what everyone told her she should do since she was so good at math and science.  After working as an engineer, and staying at home with her youngest child who was disabled, she has decided to go back to school to work with animals, which is what she wanted to do all along. Apparently, some girls are pushed to do math/sciences even when they don't wish to. Not that this means everyone is like this, but it is a counter example.

I have seen boys treated with major annoyance, impatience and distain. I have seen boys shunted into the BOCES programs instead of being tutored. While there is nothing wrong with BOCES for a lot of kids, it is a program which limits your ability to go to a really good college. I do not see girls being pushed into that choice.

Our school has excellent male teachers, at one (out of two) per most grade levels, and many specialty teachers (art, ag, computers) are male as well. This is why we keep our kids in school. If it were 90% female we would be homeschooling.


Right.  

We took our daughter to college this past week, far from home, and in one of the parent sessions I didn't attend (my husband told me this later - I was running errands)  the dean of the women's college  told a story of her nine year old daughter "finally getting it" with respect to women's education.   She reported her daughter said, "Girls go to college to get more knowledge.....  Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider".   The audience laughed heartily at this, my husband told me.  

I've heard this one before, but the fact that a person in this position at such an institution can say such a thing appalls me.   We had some discussion about it, and if you reverse the genders, or make it racial, it won't fly.   It's only when men are the butt of the joke that this is politically correct.

I don't know which is worse.    That a dean could say such things, or that the rank and file would laugh at it.
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Main / DMV and child support?
Aug 18, 2006, 01:13 PM
Quote from: "rph3664"
What planet do you live on?  It's true that poverty is a large cause of support nonpayment, but do you have any idea how many (wo)men do not work so they don't have to pay child support?  Yes, they find someone they can leech off of and dodge their responsibilities.  Most of these people were never married to the other parent, but the ones who were usually didn't support the kids when they lived with them either.  And a lot of parents don't get support because the other parent CANNOT pay because s/he is incarcerated.

And how many men really want primary custody of children?  Think about it:  if the kids are living with you, you're actually going to have to take care of them BY YOURSELF.  Boo hoo, cry me a river.  There are A LOT of men who go into marriage intending to treat their wives poorly after the children arrive so they will be divorced dads, not real fathers.

Weird thing is, these are the men who are most surprised when the marriages fail and the children want nothing to do with them.


What planet do YOU live on?   Lots of men want custody of their children.  

And what's up with the allegation that men don't want to take care of their children?   Good fathers and mothers everywhere want to take care of their children.   This board wouldn't exist otherwise, IMO.  I know, personal experience again, sorry, but I don't know a single man, not one, who wouldn't jump in front of a train for his kids.   Where do you get this nonsense?

And as for:

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There are A LOT of men who go into marriage intending to treat their wives poorly after the children arrive so they will be divorced dads, not real fathers.


What person, let's forget gender, goes into marriage intending to treat his/her spouse poorly so he/she can be a divorced parent, and not a real parent???   And what's up with that last portion of the statement as well?   Divorced dads aren't real fathers?   Divorced parents ARE real parents.
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I don't need a lecture from you, IMHO.   I know you mean well, but back off.

thanks.
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 15, 2006, 12:19 AM
Thanks, gwallan.....  as always.....
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 15, 2006, 12:16 AM
Dup
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Quote from: "typhonblue"
Quote from: "Christiane"
And you're dead wrong about the testing, tb.

They do blood tests for HIV where she is.   She is dealing with orphans whose parents are dead of HIV.


Hmm... so something like this article states?

http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/southafrica_35266.html

100 infants were tested in 2005, apparently. And now they've got that number up to 500 for 2006.


Actually, her mission is treating kids who are AIDS orphans.   There are many of them in South Africa.   They take any children who need them though, regardless of cause.   She's only 21, and she's spent 6 months working in an orphanage there, now she's raising money to open another.
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 14, 2006, 11:26 PM
Quote from: "selkie"
Quote from: "Christiane"
........  three????       :?


umm . . . overkill?


Getting back on topic . . .


right.  AIDS in Africa.  Or not.   That was the question.
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 14, 2006, 11:13 PM
........  three????       :?
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 14, 2006, 11:12 PM
Quote from: "Darth Sidious"
Quote from: "Christiane"
Damn Selkie....  This is hard work.


It is suppost to be. :lol:


Stinker...    :wink:
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Sorry, I just did a Galt plus one...  lol.....
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And you're dead wrong about the testing, tb.

They do blood tests for HIV where she is.   She is dealing with orphans whose parents are dead of HIV.

This is rural South Africa.   There's nearly a 20% infection rate in the general population.   Higher in the poor areas.   Very high among orphan children.
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It's more than just the normal endemic diseases.   They themselves call it the "slim disease".    The number of orphans is out of all proportion to years past.  

Are you actually saying that you believe AIDS is not killing an alarming percentage of sub-Saharan Africans?

You believe this is false?  

And if so, what are they dying of?
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Yes, I think it's one of many problems.

My friend was in an orphanage in South Africa.   She is currently raising money to fund another...   In south Africa.
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 14, 2006, 10:45 PM
Damn Selkie....  This is hard work.
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Main / Hypocrisy and SYG? What do you think?
Aug 14, 2006, 10:44 PM
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