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Main / Controversial women's group shut
Jul 11, 2006, 02:58 AM
I think this statement says all it needs to about those incharge and the political ideology they follow:

In a joint statement, they said: "Ynys Mon Women's Aid has for many years struggled when recruiting to find the quality of applicants needed to bear the responsibility, comprehension and sensitivity of their role as a worker and within the workers collective."

Can anyone say Lefties  :lol:

I would like to add to the advice to men to avoid accusations of rape.

This is something that I always practice (not that often at the moment)

If you have a mobile phone and you get a text from her the next day, remember to save it to your phone.

Recently I met a Woman in my local pub and one thing lead to another and we ended up at my place.

She was drunk and so was I.

The next day I received a text message from her thanking me for last night, this was stored straight away in my phone so that if anything was claimed in the future I could demonstrate that it was consenting.

It may seem like paranoia, but just as I would advice my female friends to protect themselves from rape, men should be made aware of how they can avoid False accusations of rape.

Just a false accusation prevention tip from the world of Wookie

Jaketk Wrote:
I was glued to the screen when that happened. It was so obvious that the guy faked it. Maybe someone can tell me this, but why don't the refs have monitors to show replays like in American football? With all the money and drama invested in the World Cup, you'd think they'd have replay monitors.

There is currently a strong movement to get this introduced, the problem is that Football is considered to be a flowing game, and by having video replays will slow things up and take too much time.

I personally call bullshit on this, I would introduce the option to the Ref's to have replays for incidents within the 18yard box.

The amount of time taken dealing with pissed off players is no different from the time it would take to ask a fourth official to look at video evidence.

Take the Portugal game, how the hell Figo stayed on the pitch, I will never know. They say they want to clean up football but then they send someone off for picking up the ball and delaying play but leave on a guy who head butted anouther player.

Anyway it does not matter that much as England will win the World cup 2-1 against the Argies.

Main / great song lyrics
Jun 26, 2006, 03:13 AM
Here is a amazing song by my Fav group, The Streets.

It is about his dad passing away.

If you have chance to go and listen to it, I really recomend it.

Never Went To Church Lyrics

Two great European narcotics,
Alcohol and Christianity,
I know which one I prefer

We never went to church,
Just get on with work and sometimes things'll hurt,
But it's hit me since you left us,
And it's so hard not to search.

If you were still about,
I'd ask you what I'm supposed to do now,
I just get a bit scared,
Every now,
Hope I made you proud.

On your birthday when mom passed the forks and spoons,
I put my head on the table I was so distraught with you,
You tidied your things into the bin,
The more poorly you grew,
So there's nothing of yours to hold or to talk to.

You put your hand up and interrupt the conversation with a, but..
People say I interrupt people with the same look.
Sometimes I think so hard I can't remember how your face looked,
Started reading about dreams in your favourite book.
I panic and pace when I can't see the right thing to do.
You'd be scratching your head through the best advice you knew.
And I feel sad I can't hear you reciting it through,
I miss you dad, but I've got nothing to remind me of you


I needed a break when your book about dreams was taken,
I needed to pray or see a priest that day,
I needed to leave this trade and just heave it away.
But I cleaned up my place like you so I could see things straight.

I never cared about God when life was sailin' in the calm,
So I said I'd get my head down and I'd deal with the ache in my heart,
And for that if God exists I'd reckon he'd pay me regard,
Mom says me and you are the same from the start.

I guess than you did leave me something to remind me of you,
Everytime I interrupt someone like you used to,
When I do something like you you'll be on my mind or through,
'Cause I forgot you left me behind to remind me of you.

Chorus x 2

But you you still tell me how you didn't know what to do even now,
And then I'm not so scared somehow,
'Cause I know that you'd be proud.

I got a good one for you dad,
I'm gonna see a priest, a Rabbi and a Protestant clergyman,
You always said I should hedge my bets.

Really try and get to hear it, it is an extreamly moving song from Mike Skinner, who I feel is one of my generations greatest song writers.

Main / Here We Go Again
Jun 16, 2006, 07:59 AM
gwallan wrote:
Whew. Six - nil. Scary. Argentina are an effin good thing at this stage.

Shit,  :shock:

I saw the first half but have missed the 2nd.

Oh well England beat them 3-2 last time we played, like that means shit the way England are currently playing.

One team to avoid I think. Or maybe they have peeked to soon? (keep telling yourself that wookie!)

Main / More feminist insanity!!
Jun 16, 2006, 07:12 AM
Neon wrote:
However I personally think that there need to be limitations and laws drawn up on what can or can't be done with genetic manipulation. I don't want the rich producing super-intelligent babies just because they can afford the best clinics.

I am in agreement with you here mate; it is a growing area that everybody should be concerned about.

I just loved the way this loon of a feminist framed it.

I can see it now:

Scientist 1: Right guys, now if we adapt this, then this we will eliminate cancer from humans

Scientist 2: Balls to that mate, if we do this, we can make all women have huge boobs

Que high Five

Scientist 1: the patriarchy rocks!!

Main / Here We Go Again
Jun 16, 2006, 07:05 AM
Galt wrote:
If you think about it, that's precisely the way you are thinking when you say:

I for one will never keep a woman as a housewife, I do feel that this role is redundant in our society as long as there are no children; hell I would rather pay a cleaner.  

That's also a sweeping statement, but it involves a criticism of the STRUCTURE today ("redundant").

I see your point, but I would not refer to this type of woman as a SAHM, and I feel that you would not find much disagreement from the majority of women about this in today's society.

Yes there are many marrages where this arrangement happens, but I feel that it is something that is dieing out, in the mainstream, and is manily practiced amoungst that wealthy, who are able to do this.

But I am also of the opinion that men are fully formed adults that are able to make their own decisions about life and if some dumb smuck has a trophy wife like this thats his problem.

We have to remember that there is still a large contingent of men that "will not see a wife of theirs working" it could be said that it is a status symbol, "my wife doesn't have to work, I earn enought to keep both of us"

I say more fool them.

As I said b4 it is about educating men that they do not need to shoulder the burden of being the single wage earner and that they are not bad for telling the little woman "Get a bloody job or get out"

Neon wrote:

(sorry to hear about the redundancy mate),

No great loss mate, give me a chance to watch the World Cup, good timing if you think about it  :?

Main / Here We Go Again
Jun 16, 2006, 05:37 AM
removed double posting
Main / Here We Go Again
Jun 16, 2006, 05:36 AM
Just finished reading through all this (The joy of redundancy!)  and felt that as a semi-regular poster I should give my view on the subject.

What I have seen is a few posters talking past each other, and a problem that derives from problems with terminology.

Galt, has strong points applied to some women (and you can argue some men) but I must admit that sometimes his writing could be seen as generalizations, Sorry mate but that's how it read.

I also feel that we all should be careful to avoid taking things that are written on a discussion board too personally, these are peoples opinions and sometimes peoples opinions do not sit well with others and can feel like an attack. CM, Christiane and TBQ you are all extremely valuable to the MRM, please do not allow disagreements within the movement to drive you away, it would be such a waste.

Dr E, I personally from reading Typnon comment to Christiane, about living off men as a personal attack and sorry TB, I feel that you meant it that way!.

I suppose now I should actually give my opinion on the issue.

I guess I will have to put some cream on my sore ass from sitting on the fence on this issue, but to me it is clearly not black and white but different shades.

IMHO, in the first years of a Childs life there should be a parent at home, be that male or female. I feel that a role of the MRM is to get out there and speak to men and women and encourage that this should be a joint decision. We need to get the message in the media and schools that tells boys and men that they can perform this role and it does not make them any less of a man.

We need to make it clear that childcare is not the reserve of just women, this will free both men and women (as I am sure that their are many women currently performing this role, that don't enjoy it but feel that they should do it)

We should avoid attacking individuals personal choices, but at the same time raise awareness, that is all we can really do unless we go down the road of feminism and start dictating that laws should be created etc.

We need to make men aware that they do have this choice, but it's not an easy one, as at this stage in our societies development, there are still those that will frown at it. We need to change public perception so those men that choose this role do not feel bad.

I for one will never keep a woman as a housewife, I do feel that this role is redundant in our society as long as there are no children; hell I would rather pay a cleaner.

We as we are doing still need to keep banging away at the social injustices that our in our legal system towards men, their children and divorce, this is where the problems arise.

My mum was a SAHM when I was a child, she was not a parasite, she did not take advantage of my dad to get her own way and he was not a oppressor, I believe that the majority of marrages fall into this category

My Sister is currently a SAHM with 3 children under 5, her husband works 70hrs a week, both have it hard, but they are doing what is right for their family. He can earn more than my sister, and there does need to be a parent at home. She is not a parasite and he is not an oppressor.

Well that's my stream of consciousness.

Main / More feminist insanity!!
Jun 16, 2006, 01:18 AM
You cannot make this shit up :shock:

Artificial Wombs and Pregnant Men

By Annalee Newitz, AlterNet. Posted June 6, 2006.

Feminists shouldn't back away from the debate on genetic engineering, or it'll be up to the men. Again.

I've been sorely disappointed by feminists' responses to genetic engineering. Like many life sciences, genetic engineering has its dark side -- but that's no excuse for groups like Gene Watch to claim that the feminist position on genetic engineering should be "Just say no." Why the hell shouldn't feminists seize the means of reproduction and turn them to our own best interests? Why shouldn't we be at the table when policymakers determine the best ways to regulate cloning, genetic engineering and new reproductive technologies?

The primary goal of a feminist genetic engineering project is to cut the reproductive process loose from patriarchy and male domination. One simple way to do that is to make sure feminist politics are front and center in any discussion about how we will use genetic engineering to eliminate harmful birth defects. I think we can all agree that it would be great to make sure babies aren't born with holes in their hearts, but what about girl babies born with small breasts? Can't you just see some clueless researcher claiming that women with small breasts are "harmed" psychologically, and that therefore we should engineer all women to have big ones? Feminists need to shut that shit down right away.

But what do we want? First of all, we want genetic engineering to transform the way families work, perhaps by making it possible for two women to create a baby without male intervention

Can we have a straight jacket to room 20 please nurse!

Right I am off to the lab to work on my geneticly modifid women with huge breasts, 3ft in hight and a flat head so I can rest my beer!

Did you see Englands first game, I think we have more to worry about mate than you guy's.

Bring on the might of Trinidad and Tabago!

Boy did you guy's need that to avoid meeting us in the 2nd round and being humiliated again on home soil! :wink:

Come on England!!!

Main / Boys failed by 'feminised' lessons
Jun 13, 2006, 07:47 AM
Dr E wrote:
was thinking this morning that the path for feminists and for mra's are vastly different. The above is a part of that. When women complain or claim that they need xyz services then due to chivalry everyone jumps to attention and opens the wallet. When a man makes a similar complaint he is called a whiner and/or a hater of women. It's as if both mra's and fems need to push a wheeled cart loaded with 500 lbs. The men's cart is on a slight incline while the women's cart is on a slight downward slope. Both carts take energy to get them moving but the female cart is aided by gravity and momentum while the men's cart requires constant pushing. Stop pushing even for a moment and it starts going backwards. Hell, the men's cart also has the brakes on.

Very true Doc, how many times have we seen news reports and calls to action for womens problems based not on cold hard facts but a survey where the women state that they FEEL (fill in blank), so something should be done.

Here we have cold hard facts that boys are suffering and it is still being dismissed in the media.

The one that comes to mind is about women only spaces, because women FEEL threaterned! not that any evidence shows that there is a threat.

Main / Boys failed by 'feminised' lessons
Jun 13, 2006, 05:18 AM
Just seen this reported on ITN news, they laugthed it off.

And focused on the fact that he has mentioned boys are competitive and need to be doing things, not just learning out of books.

The Female presenter was extreamly dismissive saying that what he was saying makes her angry (as in she does not agree), I thought they were ment to report the news not give their personal opionions.

It was also discussed on our local radio station and again they focused on the fact that he said boys are different than girls, our media is dominated by those that belive we are all identical and it is just nutrure that makes the difference.

The stats are getting to the scary stage now: Last year 80% of girls passed national curriculum tests compared to 67% for the boys.

Was the gap ever this big between girls and boys!

It's because he metioned the world "feminized" and we know how wrong it is to suggest that anything female is bad.

Apparently (I don't know how true this is, but he said it on the ITN news) in science lessons now it is more or less all book based and very little expermentation goes on, which he states is the part that boys enjoy.

Main / Female President Flops
Jun 13, 2006, 03:17 AM
Neon wrote:
A story about Thatcher (love her or hate her) that I heard was when members of the cabinet went to the SAS CRW training grounds and went into the 'danger room'. Apparently the SAS have all VIP's go into the room which is used for anti siege training and then a group of SAS jump into the room and empty their SMG's into targets on the wall behind the visitors, demonstrating how they can avoid the hostages but hit the terrorists behind them. Normally the only person left standing is the SAS instructor showing the visitors around the base.

In this case though when the doors flew open and the SAS open fire, everyone hits the deck except the instructor and Thatcher. When the smoke clears and the last case hits the floor, Thatcher looks down at the home secretary and says "Oh for god's sake get up."

I also read that she allowed them to drag her out of the room by her hair, as they have to be ruff in those siturations in order to get people out as quickly as possible.

She (again love her or hate her) was a clear example of a female leader that was no different from any male leader, she didn't bring peace to the world, stop all war, and have us living in a fluffy utopia.

Thats why the Fems don't like her, they bang on about how different it would be if women were incharge and she proved that a leader is a leader, what does or does not hang below makes no differents.