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Main / Are Online Pharmacies any good?
Jul 23, 2006, 07:32 AM
Online Pharmacies

I have been looking into purchasing prescription drugs over the internet. Looking at generic versions of Provigil (Modalert (Sun Pharma), Alertec,  Going to a Doctor and then the cost of non-covered prescription is very expensive.

The Canadian pharmacies look alright. But they still require a recent prescription.

So I've been looking into online pharmacies that don't require prescriptions. This is a bit nerve racking, the drugs are cheaper, but it has the vibe of a drug dealer. Because of that, I worry about quality and if the drugs are really made by the stated manufacturer or if they phonies / imitations.

The two sites that I've looked into are:

The manufacturer of Modalert, Sun Pharma, has had some drugs approved by the FDA. However, that doesn't mean I'll be getting Modalert made by Sun Pharma.

Cephalon (US manufacturer of Provigil) made deals to keep generics out of US with:

Barr Laboratories Inc., Mylan Laboratories Inc., Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., and Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd.

Does anyone have any thoughts?
NEW YORK (CNN) -- A Delaware schoolteacher was charged Tuesday with 28 counts of raping a minor after she allegedly engaged in a weeklong sexual relationship with a 13-year-old student, police said.

Rachel L. Holt, a 34-year-old science teacher at Claymont Elementary School, faces additional charges that she allowed a 12-year-old friend of the victim to watch them have sex at her home, and that she gave both boys beer, New Castle County acting Police Chief Scott McLaren said.

Robert Ziegler, a spokesman for the Brandywine School District, confirmed that two boys were allegedly involved in the incident.

"One student was involved physically, and the other one observed," Ziegler said. (Watch what tipped off the boy's dad and see Holt's condo -- 1:12)

Police say Holt and the 13-year-old had sex 28 times between March 24 and March 31. Under Delaware law, the boy is too young to consent to sex.

Police began an investigation after the victim's father told police his son was having an inappropriate relationship with his teacher, New Castle police told reporters Tuesday.

The father "also indicated his son had lied to him about staying at a relative's home while he stayed overnight at Holt's residence," according to the county police Web site.

The affidavit in the case states Holt knew the victim's father would disapprove of the boy spending the night at her residence, and alleges Holt phoned the boy's father's girlfriend, pretended to be the boy's mother and obtained permission for the boy to stay at her Wilmington, Delaware, home.

Holt was jailed and bail set at $500,000. She has been placed on leave until further notice, school administrators said.
Main / Rape, lets end the discussion
Mar 21, 2006, 06:39 PM

All right lets get this over with.

I have tried to convince people for a long time that rape is not big deal. I have argued people to the point where they have said that rape is a big deal

Rape is not a big deal. Women volunteer to have penises (and other objects) stuck into their eager vaginas all day, every day.
The fact that it is an unwanted penis would bother and upset most people. Yes it should be a crime. Yes it should be outlawed. But to crown these women as supervictims and throw money at them goes too too far. How traumatizing can having an unconsented penis inserted into the same orifice that bloody tampons are pulled out of.

Now for anyone foolish enough to say, hey Gab you won't want to be anally raped now would you. The answer is obviously "no", but serves to put me on the defense, while setting up a straw man. What is worse is this question has thrown this debate out of MRA hands for years.

It shouldn't. Because you are comparing apples to oranges. Equivocating vaginally raping a women to anally raping a male is false. I'll start at the top and work my way down. A vagina it is designed to for penises to be repeatedly shoved in and out of it and for babies to pushed out of it. It is muscular and comparably wide, it lubricates and expands, so if an object is forced into the vagina the probability of physical pain and tearing is low. Physical effects of a vaginal rape disappears within a few days at most.

An anus is not designed to have things stuck into it. It is a thin tube designed to temporarily hold semi-liquid feces. Forcing an object in there causes massive tearing, ripping, and bleeding - massive physical pain that can last for weeks.

This does not even get into the gender relational aspect of this. Straight women consent for men to have sex with them. Psychologically - the fact that it is a male sticking his penis into her vagina is not the problem. It is the male and when that it is the problem.

If you truly wanted to compare apples to apples. Then you would have to have a female raping a man. Using her vagina on his penis. That is the true comparison.
Main / Men Flee Feminized college campi
Dec 07, 2005, 06:24 AM
Related to Docs post. It is Rush Limbaugh's take on it.
For Audio:


RUSH: Sunday in the Washington Post there was a piece by Michael Gurian. "Michael Gurian is a family therapist and he's founder of the Gurian Institute, an educational training organization." His most recent book written with Kathy Stevens is 'The Minds of Boys: Saving Our Sons from Falling Behind in School and in Life.'" So he's a good guy. He's got a good mission here, and his piece is called "Disappearing Act, Where Have All the Men Gone? -- No place good," he says, and he begins the piece this way -- and I'm going to just give you some excerpts because some of this stuff in here makes sense, and I think a lot of you will agree with it along with me. He says, "In the 1990s, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college in Spokane, Washington. In my third year, I started noticing something that was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better grades than the guys. Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as much about what I taught -- literature, writing and psychology. They were bright kids, but many of their faces said, 'Sitting here, listening, staring at these words -- this is not really who I am.' That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an administrator at Howard University in the District [of Columbia]. He told me that what I observed a decade ago has become one of the 'biggest agenda items' at Howard. 'We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male students,' he said.

"'We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men.'" At this point, I said, "Well, why is anybody surprised at this? What do you expect? The universities are feminized. They're 'politically correct.' They're filled with female-oriented propaganda. I wonder if that could be part of the problem." I mean, look, let's say you're a guy. When this news first came out yesterday of a 2-to-1 ratio, Snerdley had the typical horn-dog male response: "Alright, how do I get there?" instead of the sensible response, "Wait a minute. If there's a 2-to-1 ratio it means some smart guys aren't showing up because otherwise they'd go but the lure of meeting women is still not strong enough to overcome what they encounter when they get there." Now, what could that be? Well what kind of courses in the last ten years, 15 years, have female college students been treated to? Well, we've had courses like those taught by Catharine MacKinnon at the University of Michigan, which is "all sex is rape, including the sex of marriage." We've had major institutions of higher learning creating all of this animosity in women for men. They go to school, and they're told that their future is bleak and dismal and they're going to have to overcome all these obstacles because men are a bunch of predators. They can't be counted as fathers; you've got to keep them away from the kids because they'll abuse them.

"Get to know the social workers in your town because soon your kids are going to be being cared for by them, because you can't count on this worthless guy that you're going to marry out there. He's going to run out on you. He's going to have affairs with his secretary," and all that sort of stuff. Then you look at the courses that men have to take, "women's studies" and so forth and so on. I mean, these universities have been turned into citadels of feminism, citadels of liberalism, citadels of political correctness -- and that's not who a guy naturally is. Now, you can take a guy, and you can feminize him. Michael Kinsley and Alan Alda prove it. Most of the liberal guys in Washington have been feminized. They are case-history examples for how this has been done, but normal guys who don't want to end up like Alan Alda or Michael Kinsley or any of the other feminized "liberal lion" guys in Washington, DC. They're saying, "What good do I need to put up with this for?" Plus, why pay all this money to go there and listen and get preached to about what a rotten SOB I am just because of my gender? Well, let's continue with the piece.
"Howard is not alone. Colleges and universities across the country are grappling with the case of the mysteriously vanishing male. Where men once dominated, they now make up no more than 43% of students at American institutions of higher learning, according to 2003 statistics, and this downward trend shows every sign of continuing unabated. If we don't reverse it soon, we will gradually diminish the male identity, and thus the productivity and the mission, of the next generation of young men, and all the ones that follow." I've got a story here in the stack, by the way. Some state has just said that college experience -- not a degree, but college experience... Here it is. Indiana. "The Indiana State Police are dropping a longtime requirement that would-be troopers have some college education, a requirement that's been in place for more than a decade that says state police candidates must have either 60 credit hours of college or previous police or military experience. Starting as early as next year, trooper applicants will need only a high school diploma or to pass the General Education Development Test to apply for the agency. The superintendent says the goal is to increase the number of candidates, especially minorities who want to work..." Oh, don't let Jesse Jackson hear this! Oh, jeez.

What Jesse Jackson is going to take out of this is that we need to lower the education demands otherwise we're not going to get enough black candidates. That's not what the guy is saying, but if the Reverend Jackson gets a hold of this... I can tell you exactly why this is. They don't have enough candidates because there aren't enough men going to college at all, much less getting degrees, so their field of candidates for the state trooper position in Indiana is been depleted. So they gotta throw that out to expand the universe of applicants. It fits hand-in-glove with this story. "The trend of females overtaking males in college was initially measured in 1978." I would rewrite this. The trend of females was initially measured in 1978. Yet despite the well-documented disappearance of ever more young men from college campuses, we have yet to fully react to what has become a significant crisis. Largely, that is because of cultural perceptions about males and their societal role. Many times a week, a reporter or other media person will ask me: 'Why should we care so much about boys when men still run everything?'" Yeah, well, where the hell does that kind of asinine thinking come from? That comes from the class envy orientation that people get: Well, men are just powerful brutes! They run everything. Women are serving at their pleasure, blah, blah. Why should we give anything to them? Why should we care what's happening to them? They still run the show.

"It's a fair and logical question," says Michael Gurian, "but what it really reflects is that our culture is still caught up in old industrial images. We still see thousands of men who succeed quite well in the professional world and in industry -- men who get elected president, who own software companies, who make six figures selling cars. We see the Bill Gateses and John Robertses and George Bushes -- and so we're not as concerned as we ought to be about the millions of young men who are floundering or lost." Well, Gates didn't go to college. He didn't get a degree. Steve Jobs dropped out of college. You're finding more and more really successful entrepreneurs who didn't waste the time there -- and one of the reasons they're not going, folks, is because for the truly bright it's a totally waste of time, but the curriculum and with the feminization of these places who wants to put up with it, especially told what a rotten creature you are on a daily basis! But anyway, these guys are there. The young men who are working at the lowest level of most dangerous jobs instead of going to college, they're sitting in prison instead of going to college. Yeah, well, committing crime and going to jail will keep you out of college." Yeah, well, committing crime and going to jail will keep you out of college. I mean, we have to acknowledge that. Men "who are staying out of the long-term marriage pool because they have little to offer young women" (Laughing.) On that one, folks, I'm going to take a break. We will continue after the break with more of this because there is a lot more -- and it's not just this story.


RUSH: Kate O'Beirne happened to write, in National Review Online today, a response to Michael Gurian's piece about where have all the guys gone. Kate's got a book out next January called, "Women Who Make the World Worse and How Their Radical Feminist Assault is Ruining or Schools, Our Families, Our Military and Sports." I wrote a blurb for this book because I so partiality agree with the concept, "Women Who Make the World Worse," and how their radical feminist assault, etc. It's a very great treatise on any of them and where it's all gone wrong. By the way, folks, do you know what day it is today? I almost forgot to mention this to you. Do you know what today is? Today is the day that DVD of season four of the TV show "24" is released. I, of course, already have multiple copies for the purpose of giving it away for Christmas. But for the rest of you in the real world, the retail version's out and available today. (interruption) What? You don't like the title, Dawn, "Women Who Make the World Worse and How their Radical Feminist Assault is Ruining...?" It's not about all women. It's not "Women Make the World Worse." It's "Women WHO Make the World Worse." It's sort of like a Who's Who of women who have screwed us up, and do you know...? (interruption) No, Kate doesn't know you. So you can't be in the book, so you needn't worry about it. So, anyway, Kate says:
"In his welcome Washington Post 'Outlook' piece, 'Disappearing Act: Where Have the Men Gone? No Place Good,' Michael Gurian reports that colleges and universities across the country are 'grappling with the case of the mysteriously vanishing male.'... But he doesn't explain who is to blame for boys' alienation from our current schooling regime." So she writes, "So I will. It's radical feminist academics, theorists, and activists. Gurian explains that boys 'dominate the failure statistics in our schools' beginning in elementary school and continuing through high school. Boys lag behind girls in reading ability by 1 ˝ years, a disparity that persists into college. This diminished educational achievement consigns young men to the lowest-level jobs, lands plenty in prison, and takes many out of the long-term marriage pool. He counsels that we abandon the 'boys-are-privileged-but-the-girls-are-shortchanged emphasis of the last 20 years.' No kidding. This 'emphasis' that has so disadvantaged our boys is the fundamental tenet of feminist educational policy that is subsidized by tens of millions of public dollars in the name of a phony 'educational equity.' Take reading achievement, as one example of what feminism has wrought.

"With the federal government's clout and cash, feminists have dictated the rewriting of textbooks to conform to their notions of gender equality. At its 1973 convention, NOW resolved to take 'dramatic action' to see that dangerous sex-role stereotypes were erased from textbooks, and within a year they had the Women's Educational Equity Act to advance their campaign with funding for alternative curricula. The editors, publishers, administrators, bureaucrats, and teachers' unions that make up the feminized education establishment have eagerly adopted the feminists' destructive gender agenda. The result is what NYU psychology professor Paul Vitz calls 'Wonder Woman and the Wimp' stories that little boys understandably have little interest in reading. Sandra Stotsky, a reading specialist and research scholar at Northeastern University explains, 'Gone are the inspiring biographies of the most important American presidents, inventors, scientists, and entrepreneurs. No military valor, no high adventure. On the other hand, stories about adventurous and brave women abound.' Peggy Orenstein is one of the feminist theorists who welcomes the 'gender-fair' regime that has turned our classrooms into reeducation camps for our sons.

"She has noted approvingly that 'perhaps for the first time, the boys are the ones looking through the window' when classrooms are adorned with women's pictures and bookcases are crammed with women's biographies. We parents of boys have meekly allowed gender warriors like Peggy Orenstein to treat our sons like unindicted coconspirators in history's gender crimes, while parents of girls permit their daughters to be patronized as helpless victims of a phantom, crippling sex bias in America's schools. Michael Gurian notes the casualties without identifying who created the battlefield for their campaign of intimidation and indoctrination." Much more could be said about this as well, but I don't want to devote the whole hour to this, but you remember the joke that I have told you, the old newspaper headline joke? God calls s reporter from the New York Times and says, "You know, I was watching Oprah the other day, and it's over. I have concluded the human race is a failed experiment. I'm ending the world tomorrow," and the New York Times reporter asks, "Can I have an exclusive on that?" He doesn't even try to talk God out of it, just wants an exclusive. God says, "No, I'm calling others other papers." The Times guy grouses. God hangs up. God calls USA Today, calls Wall Street Journal, calls the Washington Post.

The next day, the headline in the New York Times is found on page A-16: "God Says World to End Tomorrow." USA Today, front page headline: "God Says World to End Tomorrow; We're Doomed." Wall Street Journal: "God Says World to End Tomorrow: Markets to Close Early." Washington Post: "God Says World to End Tomorrow, Women and Minorities Hardest Hit." Well, guess what? (CNSNews:) "The debate over climate change evolved into a battle of the sexes Monday at the 11th annual United Nations Climate Change Conference in Montreal. The spokesman for a feminist-based environmental group accused men of being the biggest contributors to human-caused 'global warming' and lamented that women are bearing the brunt of the negative climate consequences created by men. 'Women and men are differently affected by climate change and they contribute differently to climate change,' said Ulrike Rohr, director of the German-based group called..." I can't pronounce it. Who cares? The last two words are "Environment, Sustainability."

She "is demanding 'climate gender justice,' left no doubt as to which gender she believes was the chief culprit in emitting greenhouse gasses." She said, "'To give you an example from Germany, it is mostly men who are going by car. Women are going by public transport mostly.'" She "was standing in front of her booth, which featured a banner calling for 'creative gender strategies' from 'rural households to global scientific bodies.'" So the joke's true! Here they're talking about global climate change is going to ruin everybody, going to destroy us. Men are the culprits; women hardest hit. Well, this is a classic example of what Kate O'Beirne is talking about. This kind of radical feminism shows up in institutions, and guys that go to school hear about how they are more responsible for all the world's ills, including whatever women are unhappy about, than anybody else. Why do they want to put up with it? They've heard about it for all these years. Why mess with it? And why pay whatever tuition costs to subject yourself to this?

RUSH: Ann in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin. It's nice to have you with us.

CALLER: Hi. Thank you.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I can't believe I'm on. I've been listening since February of 1990 --

RUSH: Mmm-hmm?

CALLER: -- and I guess I was just calling about need of education. I really believe that women need the college advantage because they get passed over if they don't have that, where a man can start in the work room or in the mail room and work his way up, and they'll take a man more seriously than a woman --

RUSH: Oh, jeez. (laughing)

CALLER: -- and I woman needs that college education, otherwise they get passed over. I've seen it happen many times.

RUSH: You know what I'm tempted to say? "Women can start on the couch and work their way up."

CALLER: That's true, but that -- I wouldn't do that, but I know there are women out there that have. But, umm.
RUSH: Well, look, I understand. Sorry. It just was the first thing I thought of when you said that, and I just had to share it with you. I understand the point that you're making, and it dovetails with the notion of it's still a disadvantage to be a woman out there, because men just naturally have a leg up when it comes to promotion and so forth. But, you know, something, I have a little different take on it now.

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.

RUSH: I'm not denying that what you say has been institutionally true, but I don't think it's as universally, institutionally true today. I think women, in fact -- and I'm being dead serious about this -- have far many more options in corporate America than men will ever hope to have. For example, a woman can come out of college; she can get the job. A lot of companies today, to keep the federal government and the EEOC and the Jesse Jacksons and the NAGs off your back, hire women whether they're as qualified or not, because they'll fulfill a statistical quota requirement that makes the company look good, and they will promote them on the same basis, and at the same time more qualified maybe men are not being promoted and not being hired.

Then, let's say this woman sat some future date, the biological clock starts ticking (ticking), and the woman says, "You know what? I want to have a baby," and of course, we love that. Motherhood, apple pie -- and the woman's allowed to take maternity leave, sometimes of a year, depending on the company. Then you've added family and medical leave so while she's caring for the baby, she can take to the dog to the vet. All the while her job is protected, and she can go to the management and say, "I want to have a baby. I'm pregnant. I want my maternity leave." You got it. You got it, and somebody gets transferred to cover her job until she comes back. Then when she comes back, she comes back and assumes the job she had at that moment and the pay at that moment and whoever was doing her job while she was gone goes back to wherever they were or what have you. Then a couple years later or maybe two months later she says, "You know what? I don't really want to work. I want to stay home and raise my child." Oh, great, because society loves motherhood at home. So fine. Go home.

If an average male employee tried one of those stunts, "Pssht!" Out the door. His career is ruined. Once that kind of stuff is on his résumé, he's histoire. Turn the tables. Say a guy, at age 30, his wife gets pregnant. He goes to the boss, "You know, my wife is pregnant. I want to stay home and help her raise the baby during my maternity leave." You what? You what! So he can't do that. Then he comes back after the maternity leave if he gets it and says, "You know what? I'm going to be the one to raise the kids. I'm leaving, and I want to be the one to raise the kids." His future is over. Once he's made the decision to do that, once that's on his résumé, he's not going to get hired. Women have that option. I'm not upset about it. I'm just telling you it's far more flexible for women in corporate America than it is for men, but by the same token, a lot of management is very much aware of the new trend that women who come out of college all revved up and geared up for the career world. The statistics are increasing rapidly after the birth of their first child, more and more of them are deciding not to go back to work.
CALLER: Well, I took time off when I had my first child, and it definitely had implications at work for me.

RUSH: What kind?

CALLER: Well, I didn't get a raise that year, or if I did, it was substantially less than what the other women in my work group got, and there were other promotional opportunities, and I was again passed over. So I think what you just described for men did happen to me when I took that extended time off for my first child. I didn't do it for my two subsequent children. So I did learn.

RUSH: Wait a minute, wait. You didn't take maternity leave for your two subsequent children?

CALLER: I did, but not the same length. I took six months for the first one and only like 12 weeks, I think, for the second one.

RUSH: Okay, I have to ask you an honest question, ma'am. Six weeks of maternity leave, and you said that you didn't get a raise.

CALLER: No, no, no. I took six months.

RUSH: Six months. Okay, six months -- I'm sorry, that's what I meant to say -- and you didn't get a raise.

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.

RUSH: All right. Now, I have to ask, because I deal with this all the time. I have to ask you: On what basis did you earn one?

CALLER: That's true, and that's basically what my supervisor told me, that they had to review me on what I did while I was there, and I was only there for six months of the year.

RUSH: So you felt penalized, though? You felt penalized because you got pregnant?

CALLER: Well, not really that. But, you know, I thought, "Well, why don't you just review me on the six months of my work that I was there?" But they didn't look at it that way.

RUSH: Well, that's because they were paying you --

CALLER: I know.

RUSH: -- for work you weren't doing when you were at home.

CALLER: That's true. That's true. But there are consequences if you do take the time off, and I don't think it's just solely for men. I think women do experience that, too. So...

RUSH: Well, you know, I, frankly, don't know a guy... (exhaling) Well, I'm sure there are. I know journalists like Bob Woodward who take leaves of absence to write books and come back.

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.

RUSH: But I don't know that it happens with men with a frequency. I don't know that men have the opportunity because of something that happens to them biologically and they automatically qualify for six months of leave for anything and --

CALLER: I understand.

RUSH: -- come back and have their jobs, but that's okay because we understand. You know, we respect motherhood in this country. We revere it and we cherish it and we want to do what we can to promote it. That's why these policies exist. But what's interesting is that even after acknowledging all this there can be feelings of bitterness on the part of the person who has had these benefits offered and extended to them. I appreciate the call, Ann. Who's next on this program? Steve in Cleveland, you're next, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network.

CALLER: Thank you, Rush. I wanted to say that I think you're missing the good news for men in this report about women outnumbering men in college two to one.

RUSH: I seldom "miss" good news, so tell me what it is.

CALLER: The good news is because universities are that bastion of liberalism, affirmative action applies and it will be easier for men to get into college than women as long as liberals are consistent.

RUSH: Well, but you're missing the point. Men are not going because they don't want to. They're not going to college because they don't want to. I'm sure the reasons are varied, but largely it's because what their experience has been there and what they're going to find there. You know, it really isn't all that complicated. Back in the days where -- let's take this example in the story that in classrooms you had pictures up there of George Washington and Benjamin Franklin and Abraham Lincoln and Douglas MacArthur and Dwight Eisenhower. That made the feminists mad. It made them mad. "It's unfair to women! Why, where are the pictures of powerful women?" Okay, put some pictures of powerful women. Eventually the men pictures came down. Now, every time I say this, it makes people mad, but if you're going to put pictures of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and James Madison on the wall in your classroom, you can't replace them with women. There were no "founding mothers" in this country.
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Don't mean to get off topic, but I thought some people here would be interested.
Main / Fear
Jul 05, 2005, 05:45 PM
Quote from: "gazpacho"
Feminists first question your motives for saying what you're saying. You must be a misogynist pussy who fears the awesome power of woman, being greater than the puny power of man. This is grounds to ridicule you, even though feminists argue that weak women's fear of powerful men is perfectly legitimate and deserving of sympathy.

Then they might suggest that you probably just can't get laid or you "have issues" as though this somehow contradicts the factual basis of your argument.

Then they'll just say, "'re wrong. Rape is horrible and happens all the time."

But goddamn, Hugo's using that damn "fear" argument again. When Orson Wells broadcast The War of the Worlds on the radio, many people were afraid of Martians. People in Salem, Massachussetts during a certain period of history were terrified of witches.

More to the point...I once saw the movie "Signs" (I know, it was crap) with my girlfriend. It was a nice night out, and as we walked into the theatre, we were both in a very good mood. When we left after the movie, she was holding my arm tightly and saying how scared she was, and how she was jumping at shadows.

Was she afraid because there was some legitimate reason for her to be afraid, or because she had been exposed to something unreal which she found frightening?

Yes, rape really happens sometimes. So does murder. So do car accidents. Let's imagine a metropolitan woman who drives to and from work every day. That woman is more likely to be in a serious car crash than she is to be raped. But I'll bet she's afraid of rape and not of death or disfigurement by car accident. Why is that?

Propaganda, perhaps?

Nah. History has shown us time and time again the complete ineffectiveness of propaganda.

Hasn't it?...

Written on a different forum in response to Gonzo's post found here
Main / Mother stabs her two kids to death
May 06, 2005, 08:32 PM
HOFFMAN ESTATES, Illinois (AP) -- The mother of a 9-year-old boy and 3-year-old girl who were fatally stabbed more than 200 times each inside their suburban Chicago home was charged Friday with two counts of first-degree murder, authorities said.

Tonya Vasilev, 34 -- a heavy bandage covering her left wrist -- appeared in court Friday afternoon and answered the judge's questions in a soft, shaking voice. The judge appointed a public defender to represent her and ordered her held without bail.

Investigators believe she was at home Wednesday night when Christian and Gracie Vasilev were killed. The children's father and a friend who had been living with the family discovered the bloody scene when they arrived home that evening.

Police found the boy lying just inside the front door and carried him outside, where they tried in vain to resuscitate him, said Hoffman Estates Police Lt. Rich Russo.

The little girl and the children's mother were both upstairs. The girl was dead, and her mother had what appeared to be minor cuts on her hands. Police recovered several knives believed to have been used to kill the children.

"It really doesn't get much worse than this," said Russo, who would not discuss a possible motive for the killings.

The autopsies showed that both children tried to fight off their attacker, he said.

The stabbings came five years after the couple's 3-month-old daughter died in a fire at an Elk Grove Village town house where the family then lived. The cause of the 2000 fire remains undetermined, but foul play was never suspected, said Larry Hammar, deputy chief of the Elk Grove Village Police.

Hammar said his department will investigate that fire again. The mother was home at the time of the blaze.

Village police said at the time that Tonya Vasilev left the baby in a carrier in the laundry room while she went to check on another of her children. She noticed smoke coming from the window a short time.

Happy Mother's Day,

The Gentler Sex
After many month's of battling it out, we now have men's issues forum at

This is a great opportunity, as is linked to by

I believe Typhonblue and Southern guy have posted there.

Ok, so these women are afraid of rape because rape is so so tramatic. So to prevent rape, they are willing to stick weapons in their vaginas, little knives, some spring loaded knife with a barb.

Ok so this makes a whole lot of sense. Lets examine this.

Rape: A man forcibly sticking his penis, made of flesh, into the vagina of a woman at most a few dozen times.

So to prevent this terrible experience, they will stick sping loaded knives up there. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

Walking around "loaded" with a pressure triggered, spring loaded barbed knife in your vagina would seem to be much more tramatic than a penis in there for 5 minutes.
Mar 13, 2005, 03:29 PM

First off. Duh - of course nature matters.


The differences continue as children grow.

Girls hear better...

Teen-age boys have much more trouble discussing their feelings.

Get the message.
Main / Women in leadership positions:
Mar 09, 2005, 07:43 PM
As some may know, Elizebeth Hoffman, former president of the University of Colorado in the midst of two scandals at the university - Ward Churchhill and the accuse for money, football sex scandal.

She is a laughing example of a leader. A true leader would have stayed with the university to guide it through its troubled times, not abondoned your post when the heat starts to get turned up.

I shouldn't be surprised they hired wuss, she was probably hired b/c she is a woman and it is soooo pc to hire a woman these days. To show off how fair your are - and colleges are liberal and pc is liberal dogma, so it adds up.

With the disaster of that HP CEO, I'll use these two as examples the next time I hear of some liberal woman complaining that there are no females in the top jobs.

The university has enough to deal with, with the scandals - adding finding a president to the list is not what it needs.

Judge: Divorce cases skewed toward women


One of New York's top judges started tongues wagging after suggesting divorce leaves men with the short end of the stick when it's time to divvy up the dough.

In a speech last week, Court of Appeals Judge Robert Smith suggested courts aren't always gender-neutral - and the marriage contract is often skewed in favor of the woman, according to the New York Law Journal.

In divorce cases involving working women and stay-at-home husbands, Smith said he suspects men still don't get their fair share.

"I read a case where the wife was a dental hygienist and the husband said, 'That's marital property.' The court said, 'You're right, it is marital property. You are getting 7%,'" the Law Journal quoted Smith saying Thursday in a speech to the Family Law Section of the New York State Bar Association.

A spokesman for the Court of Appeals said Smith had no additional comments about the controversial speech.

"It's not something he wants to comment on further," spokesman Gary Spencer said.

Claims of a pro-female tilt ignore the harsh financial realities of divorce, said Marcia Pappas, head of the New York State chapter of the National Organization for Women.

"Judge Smith is out of touch with real families," Pappas said. "How he thinks the system favors women is really surprising to me. I'm not sure what he's basing his personal opinions on."

But prominent New York divorce lawyer Eleanor Alter, whose clients have included Christie Brinkley and Mia Farrow, hailed Smith for adding some spice to the "discussion and disagreement" over matrimonial law.

"It's great that he said it," Alter said. "If we get to the point where we can only say what's politically correct, then we're in pretty bad shape."

Originally published on January 31, 2005

Judge Smith bio


Hon. Robert S. Smith
Robert S. Smith, Associate Judge of the Court of Appeals, was born in New York, New York in August 1944, and grew up in Massachusetts and Connecticut. He graduated from Stanford University (B.A. 1965, with great distinction) and Columbia Law School (LL.B. 1968, magna cum laude), where he was editor-in-chief of the Law Review. From 1968 to 2003 he practiced law in New York City with the firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison, taking a one-year leave of absence in 1980-81 to serve as Visiting Professor from Practice at Columbia Law School. He was a Lecturer in Law at Columbia Law School from 1981 until 1990.

On June 1, 2003, he became an individual practitioner and Special Counsel to the firm of Kornstein Veisz Wexler & Pollard. On November 4, 2003 he was appointed by Governor George E. Pataki to the Court of Appeals. The appointment was confirmed by the State Senate on January 12, 2004. He and his wife, Dian G. Smith, live in New York City. They have three children and one grandchild.

Heard this on Rush Limbaugh's station, but Curtis and Kuby was on. I woke up to this story.Link
Kuby repeats myths that women have no money, men do, and the person who has the money controls the divorce. Which is, of course, bs.

A guy called up and said his judge was disbarred because his wife was having cake with his wife (meant judge - it was early and I hadn't had my coffee).
Main / dojo of the mind
Jan 24, 2005, 07:28 PM
dojo of the mind

That is what this place has become in many ways. I will thus explain a few of my observations.

These next example must be thought of in argumentation form, not literally physical fighting.

I see the natural way men fight is through a contest of strength. Two men pick up clubs and try to smack the other one down, but many times end up holding the clubs with both hands forcing it against their opponents stick, he doing the same - trying to knock the other one down by force and strength. Both men pushing their sticks against one another and the stronger one wins.

Men are stronger, linear and logically. This is one of men's greatest strengths, their linear logic. This fighting among men has produced much of the technology in the world. But as any martial artist will tell you, your greatest strength can become your biggest weakness.

Women don't fight this way. Why should they? They would lose 99% of the time. Would you enter a match you knew you were going to lose and get beaten badly? I didn't think so. Women are not that stupid. They learn early that men are stronger. They see adult men much bigger than adult women and see their future. So they use other techniques. Think passive aggressive. You come after them with your club / clue by four they are not going to go directly against you, no that would be stupid. They want to win. So when you come up swinging at them, they hold their stick like a bo and swing like they are going to meet you, but step out of the way, deflect your shot to the ground while swinging their stick to around to smack you in the head.

Patience and timing. They have it, they were forced to develop it. They can't win in direct contest of strength so they became martial arts experts. You run at them, they dodge you and push you to the ground.

I was a fencing champion in high school so I see much of this in terms of fencing.

Beginner fencers, and I was no different, would often get into this contest of strength - pushing their blades against each other in this battle of brute strength. Often their blades would be forced to the ground by one person or the other. But soon enough they learn that if one is pushing real hard, if they push back a little or not at all, instead moving their blade under and out of the way they can score a point. And the learning progresses.

I made my biggest leap in skill when an old Hungarian instructor taught me to always keep my point on target. When you parry the other fencers blade - force isn't your friend because you move your blade off target too at best and at worse if you miss, you are left wide open. Instead, he taught me to parry so that my blade guided the other fencers blade off target with a small wrist movement leaving the fencer open to be struck with an extension of my arm instead of full attack (lunge).

In arguments, I see lots of anger. Guys trying to clue bat their opponents and often get tossed around by these little martial arts girls - and all girls are martial artists with their minds. The only weapon guys know is the clue bat, only one way of swinging it, and only in certain circumstances. Pretty predictable if you ask me.  So it is no wonder they get their butts kicked. They are patience, they wait and dodge you now, beat you down with small taps, not hay makers.

Anger. Yeah I know a lot about that, I could tell stories of the things I have broken when I was pissed. I can even tell you where it comes from. Anger comes from not having your expectations met. You have made estimates about the world and how it operates and when it does not operate according to those estimates - bam, you get pissed. The more estimates that end up wrong, the more pissed you get.

The solution, lower your expectations. Lower your assumptions. You are trying to get somewhere using a map of Chicago, when you are in Miami. Maybe it is time to buy a new map. The right map. If you were making the right estimates, had the correct assumptions and the correct expectations - you wouldn't be pissed. You would deal with the world as it is, not how you want it to be, or how you thought it was going to be, or hoped it would be. Why waste our time chasing after the snake that bite you because with every step we drive the poison further into us. A smarter move is to sit down to suck the poison out, or driving to a hospital.

The world it is how it is. We must learn new techniques to deal with it. Our old techniques have left many men angry, paying child support / alimony, in jail, or dead from suicide. Their clue bats failed. Anger doesn't work. Brute strength does not work when you are fighting a martial arts master, both physically and mentally. We must put the clue bats down and realize that there is no clue bat, only then will we learn how to use it properly.

I never said it would be easy. I never said it would be quick, I can actually promise you that will not be either. But the goal will make you more powerful than you can possible imagine.

Stinnett's mother, Becky Harper, said she wants the accused baby-snatcher to die for her crimes.

"I hope she gets the death penalty," Harper declared. "I don't want to have to pay for her to be in jail."

Harper also blasted Montgomery's "clueless" husband.

She said he bears some responsibility for failing to stop his spouse's manic hunt for a child. People close to the family reportedly said they warned him she may do something awful.

"He had to have been pretty clueless not to have known about this," Harper said. "It sounds like he just didn't want to hear anything about this."

Even Montgomery's mother failed to mount much of a defense of her daughter yesterday.

"I did not have any sense she could murder someone," said Judy Shaughnessy. "I thought she could maybe steal or buy a child -- but not kill to get one."

Ok, so the husband should know, but her mother shouldn't. Double Standard?

Let's see - when a man controls his wife, it is "abuse". When he doesn't and she kills one or 5 people, it's his fault.


Police said a tape from Jan. 4 showed the nanny shaking the baby, bouncing him on the floor so his legs got bruised, and putting a pillow over his head and punching the pillow.
Main / what is abuse?
Dec 30, 2004, 01:09 PM
From Gonzo's Blog
Well since I consider any man who litigates custody to be emotionally abusive, I am assuming he was pulling the usual stunts that custodial fathers pull on non-custodial mothers and drove her over the edge...

He'll have to live with the consequences of his own selfishness...

I'll repeat the pertinent part for all you lawmakers out there:

Well since I consider any man who litigates custody to be emotionally abusive

Any questions?

Does anyone actually question that the laws like VAWA and restraining orders are insane? Look at what women consider to be abuse and want men arrested for.
I hate to be cynical, but this 50,000 dead from the earthquake sounds like bullshit propanda to garner sympathy and money.  I am sure a lot died, but no one where near 50,000.  

8,000 at most.
Main / It only gets worse
Dec 23, 2004, 10:58 PM
ROCHESTER HILLS, Michigan (AP) -- A pregnant woman was charged with killing her boyfriend's toddler daughter by scalding her in what prosecutors say was 147-degree water, then ignoring her suffering for several hours.


I thought that woman who chopped open that other woman for her baby was bad. This is worse. Excuse me, I need to go throw up.
Main / vibrating razors for women
Dec 18, 2004, 03:03 PM

In a product category where women's products generally are priced higher than men's -- on the assumption women will pay more for personal care --

Hey dumb @#$@# haven't you heard, supply and demand cause prices, not assumptions. Economics 101, first or second day of class. Holy crap people are dumb.

Is it possible for women not to be victims at all times, jesus. Now it is all about price equality.

Hello. Mcfly. People are not equal. For the most part there is nothing that is equal to anything else. The basic assumptions of communism is bs.
Killer and baby thief ghoul arrested

One Charged With Killing Mom, Taking Baby

21 minutes ago

By MARGARET STAFFORD, Associated Press Writer

MARYVILLE, Mo. - Authorities Friday arrested a woman they allege came to the home of an eight-months-pregnant woman -- purportedly to buy a dog -- then strangled her and cut the baby from her womb. Authorities found the abducted infant in good health, ending a day of frantic searching.

According to a criminal complaint, Lisa M. Montgomery admitted she strangled Bobbie Jo Stinnett and took her baby. The complaint also said Montgomery lied to her husband about giving birth, although U.S. Attorney Todd Graves declined to give a motive for the crime.

Stinnett's mother found the 23-year-old nearly dead Thursday in her northwest Missouri home. Paramedics tried to revive her, but she was pronounced dead at a hospital.

The baby was found Friday in an eastern Kansas home; a red Honda hatchback matching a description offered earlier by police was in the driveway.

Although DNA tests were pending to confirm the baby's identity, authorities called off the Amber Alert issued for the child.

"We're confident we have the little girl that was taken from Skidmore," Nodaway County Sheriff Ben Espey said during a news conference in Maryville. FBI (news - web sites) agent Rick Thornton said the father has been reunited with the baby.

Montgomery, 36, of Melvern, Kan., was charged with kidnapping resulting in death, Graves said.

Missouri State Highway Patrol Sgt. Sheldon Lyon said earlier in the day that authorities were questioning a man and a woman who were in the place where the baby was found. Graves said the investigation was ongoing but would not say if additional charges might be filed or if there was another suspect.

Graves said Montgomery contacted Stinnett through an online message board. Montgomery was seeking to buy a dog from Stinnett, who raised rat terriers, he said.

Espey said there was no indication of forced entry into Stinnett's small white home in this community of about 500, located north of St. Joseph in the extreme northwest corner of Missouri.

Espey said he believes Stinnett was strangled and resisted the attack.

"The autopsy is going to show us there was some blond hair probably found in her hands," the sheriff said.

A neighbor, Bill Dragoo, said Stinnett and her husband "didn't bother anybody. It blows my mind that this happened. She was such a shy person. They didn't deserve this."

Espey was frustrated that it took hours for a statewide Amber Alert to be issued. The mother was found around 3:30 p.m, and the Amber Alert didn't appear until nine hours later.

"We had a live baby, and I thought that should qualify as an Amber Alert," he said. "The information I was getting was that we didn't have enough information such as hair color, eye color, skin complexion, size and weight."

Stinnett, married for little more than a year and expecting her first child, worked at an engine factory in nearby Maryville. Her husband was at work at the time she was killed, authorities said.

Several pregnant women have been killed in recent years by attackers who then removed their fetuses, in some cases to pass the children off as their own.

In the most recent case, a 21-year-old woman was shot to death in Oklahoma in December 2003, allegedly by another woman who pretended the 6-month-old fetus was her child. The fetus died and prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Notice how the title doesn't say woman, but says one