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It looks like we won't have to move to South America to live like they do there, it's coming to us. Southern Californians are running illegal restaurants...out of their own homes!

http://tinyurl.com/25wh239
2
Main / I Have Restarted The DM Forum
Aug 22, 2010, 10:02 AM
No, it doesn't have any old content, your userid, your log in or anything else. Just a blank forum like all Proboards are at the beginning.

I am sure many of you have strong feelings about this, and my intent is not to cause any divisions, poach members or inspire dissent.

I just got bored and have tons of spare time on my hands.

So here is the link and I hope to see some of you there!

http://dontmarry.proboards.com/index.cgi
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Introductions / Lee R. Reintroduction
Aug 17, 2010, 07:46 AM
Hi gang.

I joined up AWS back in June 2004 and then 2 years later resurrected the DM forum which is now defunct as well. Many other good new fora have arisen since then and there are more MRM sites than any one many can count now.

Not like 2004.

Good news.

All the best.
4
Main / Old Don't Marry Forum is Back
Sep 03, 2006, 09:37 AM
Compressed Files of the Original Don't Marry Forum are here:

http://dontgetmarried.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=archive
5
http://tinyurl.com/s2ust

I am so stunned, I have to assume this is some joke or publicity stunt.

It just cannot be real.
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Non-registered can now read the forums.

http://dontgetmarried.proboards75.com/index.cgi#general
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Main / Spawn another annuity©
Apr 26, 2006, 04:47 PM
Just striking single moms off the list is the best policy.

I am older, and have a vasectomy, and often encounter Single Moms©.

There is no chance she'll spawn another annuity with me, but I still don't like the hassle or chance that the kids might be harmed (even more).
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Main / It is Time to Update my Links
Mar 29, 2006, 01:04 PM
Here is a list of links that cover the marriage strike, dating strike and various men's and gender issues.

Please suggest any new links that you think are relevant, and I will amend this list.

Any dead ones, please update also.

Thx.

http://antifeminism.mathews.me.uk/forum.htm
http://bizspirit.com/publish/books/Legal/dontgetmarr.html
http://bulletproofpimp.blogspot.com/
http://dhdiary.blogspot.com/
http://dontmarry.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=general
http://elfdata.com/darkforum/viewforum.php?f=2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_strike
http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/
http://faithandsociety.typepad.com
http://feminismisevil.blogspot.com/
http://forum.dadsontheair.com/
http://manoppressed.blogspot.com/
http://menrevitalized.blogspot.com/
http://mensnewsdaily.com/category/bullseye/gonzos-bar-go-go-grill/
http://mensnewsdaily.com/index.htm
http://mensnewsdaily.com/forum/
http://mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com/
http://my.opera.com/khankrumthebulgar/blog/
http://richardsmidlifecrisis.blogspot.com/
http://science.martianbachelor.com/BP.html
http://voxday.blogspot.com/
http://www.americanwomensuck.com
http://www.angryharry.com
http://www.bearforum.com/cgi-bin/bbs2.pl?read=11010
http://www.cooltools4men.com/
http://www.davidschweitzer.net/Lyrics/don't_get_married.htm
http://www.divorcereform.org/
http://www.dontgetmarriedanytimesoon.com/
http://www.dontmarry.com/
http://www.ejfi.org/Civilization/Civilization-9.htm
http://www.etherzone.com/2002/blow071202.shtml
http://www.etherzone.com/2002/moor070902.shtml
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,94415,00.html
http://www.fredoneverything.net/
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/970330/posts
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3951/noback/sex.html
http://www.geocities.com/remarksman/manshortage.html
http://www.glennsacks.com/have_antifather_family.htm
http://www.harrysnews.com/
http://www.heartlessbitches.com
http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0812.html
http://www.indianest.com/humor/jokes/019.htm
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2566.html
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3609.html
http://www.john-ross.net
http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.com/artman/publish/
http://www.mattweeks.com/strike.htm
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/
http://www.menrevitalized.net/
http://www.mensactivism.org/articles/00/07/04/187208.shtml
http://www.mensactivism.org/articles/03/08/12/0625200.shtml
http://www.mens-network.org/
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/blog/gonz/
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/s/sacks/02/thompsonsacks070502.htm
http://www.mens-rights.net.tc/
http://www.mrrena.com/12.shtml
http://www.nas.com/c4m/
http://www.ncfm.org/
http://www.nevermarry.blogspot.com/
http://www.nomarriage.com
http://www.nomoremrniceguy.com/forums/
http://www.opinionet.com/article.php?id=1852
http://www.parents4protest.co.uk/_private/family.htm
http://www.perkel.com/pbl/married/index.htm
http://www.relationshit.com/guyindex.html
http://www.rense.com/general40/few.htm
http://www.rulymob.com/
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/marriage.html
http://www.standyourground.com/
http://www.standyourground.com/forum/
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/diebitchdie.html
http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/dont_get_married.htm
http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/weblog/blogger.html
http://www.the-niceguy.com
http://www.the-niceguy.com/forum/
http://www.unityinchrist.com/marriage_strike.htm
http://www3.tripnet.se/~labadal/marriage.htm
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Read a thread on another board, that claims that as soon as elderly men
in their 70's and 80's begin to get sick, the wife puts them in a
nursing home and won't take care of them or stick by them for the end
times.  It seems they refuse to take hubby back from the hospital or care
facility, and begin to sell off his clothes and possessions.  He is of
course devastated:

'I've seen 80 year old, cancer stricken men, break down in tears
because the women they provided for and loved for many years dumped
them when they needed companionship the most.

They just didn't want the toil and responsibility of tending to a sick,
life-time mate. These women were merely ungrateful opportunistic
parasites devoid of morals and a conscience.

Go spend some time with some elderly men and chat them up. Ask them how many of these women stick around for the end times.'

Has anyone else heard similar stories?  How common is this?
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International Marriage Broker Act Passes
Snuck into Appendix D of VAWA passing this weekend.

The requirements now make it virtually impossible for any American Man to meet a Foreign Woman on the Internet via any for-profit website that caters to FW and AM.

This is a major restriction of our freedoms.  I cannot believe this has happened.

Link is here.

Look at '(B) Contents of Information Pamphlet', where the government is translating into 14 languages the wording that will walk any woman through the details of how to bilk a man through the filing of restraining orders, and his obligation to pay for child support.

Full Text of Relevant Section of S.1197:

BEGIN TEXT OF BILL
*****************

S.1197
Violence Against Women Act of 2005 (Reported in Senate)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Subtitle D--International Marriage Broker Regulation

SEC. 831. SHORT TITLE.

This subtitle may be cited as the `International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005'.

SEC. 832. DEFINITIONS.

In this subtitle:

(a) Crime of Violence- The term `crime of violence' has the meaning given such term in section 16 of title 18, United States Code.

(B) Domestic Violence- The term `domestic violence' means any crime of violence, or other act forming the basis for a past or outstanding protective order, restraining order, no-contact order, conviction, arrest, or police report, committed against a person by--

(1) a current or former spouse of the person;

(2) an individual with whom the person shares a child in common;

(3) an individual with whom the person is cohabiting or has cohabited;

(4) an individual similarly situated to a spouse of the person under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction in which the offense occurs; or

(5) any other individual if the person is protected from that individual's acts pursuant to a court order issued under the domestic or family violence laws of the United States or any State, Indian tribal government, or unit of local government.

© Foreign National Client- The term `foreign national client' means an individual who is not a United States citizen, a national of the United States, or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence and who utilizes the services of an international marriage broker , and includes an alien residing in the United States who is in the United States as a result of utilizing the services of an international marriage broker .

(d) International Marriage Broker -

(1) IN GENERAL- The term `international marriage broker' means a corporation, partnership, business, individual, or other legal entity, whether or not organized under any law of the United States, that charges fees for providing dating, matrimonial, matchmaking services, or social referrals between United States clients and foreign national clients by providing personal contact information or otherwise facilitating communication between individuals from these respective groups.

(2) EXCEPTIONS- Such term does not include--

(A) a traditional matchmaking organization of a cultural or religious nature that operates on a nonprofit basis and in compliance with the laws of the countries in which it operates, including the laws of the United States; or

(B) an entity that provides dating services between United States citizens or residents and other individuals who may be aliens, but does not do so as its principal business, and charges comparable rates to all individuals it serves regardless of the gender, country of citizenship, or residence of the individual.

(e) K Nonimmigrant Visa- The term `K nonimmigrant visa' means a nonimmigrant visa issued pursuant to clause (i) or (ii) of section 101(a)(15)(K) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(K)).

(f) Personal Contact Information-

(1) IN GENERAL- The term `personal contact information' means information or a forum that would permit individuals to contact each other and includes--

(A) the name, telephone number, postal address, electronic mail address, and voice message mailbox of an individual; and

(B) the provision of an opportunity for an in-person meeting.

(2) EXCEPTION- Such term does not include a photograph or general information about the background or interests of a person.

(g) State- The term `State' includes the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa.

(h) United States Client- The term `United States client' means a United States citizen or other individual who resides in the United States and who makes a payment or incurs a debt in order to utilize the services of an international marriage broker .

SEC. 833. REGULATION OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS.

(a) Prohibition on Marketing Children- An international marriage broker shall not provide any United States client or other person with the personal contact information, photograph, or general information about the background or interests of any individual under the age of 18.

(B) Limitations on Sharing Information Regarding Foreign National Clients-

(1) IN GENERAL- An international marriage broker shall not provide any United States client or other person with the personal contact information of any foreign national client or other individual 18 years of age or older unless and until the international marriage broker has--

(A) collected certain background information from the United States client or other person to whom the personal contact information would be provided, as specified in subsection ©;

(B) provided a copy of that background information to the foreign national client or other individual in the primary language of that client or individual;

© provided to the foreign national client or other individual in such primary language the information about legal rights and resources available to immigrant victims of domestic violence and other crimes in the United States developed under section 834;

(D) received from the foreign national client or other individual in such primary language a written consent that is signed (including using an electronic signature) to release such personal contact information to the specific United States client or other person to whom the personal contact information would be provided; and

(E) informed the United States client or other person from whom background information has been collected that, after filing a petition for a K nonimmigrant visa, the United States client or other person will be subject to a criminal background check.

(2) CONFIDENTIALITY AFTER ORDER OF PROTECTION OR CRIME-

(A) NONDISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION REGARDING INDIVIDUALS WITH PROTECTION ORDERS AND VICTIMS OF CRIMES- In fulfilling its obligations under this subsection, an international marriage broker shall not disclose the name or location of an individual who obtained a restraining or protection order as described in subsection ©(2)(A), or of any other victim of a crime as described in subparagraphs (B) through (D) of subsection ©(2).

(B) DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION REGARDING UNITED STATES CLIENTS- An international marriage broker shall disclose the relationship of the United States client or other person to an individual or victim described in paragraph (A).

© Obligations of International Marriage Broker With Respect to Mandatory Collection of Information-

(1) IN GENERAL- Each international marriage broker shall collect the background information listed in paragraph (2) from each United States client or other person to whom the personal contact information of a foreign national client or any other individual would be provided. The background information must be in writing and signed (including using an electronic signature) by the United States client or other person to whom the personal contact information of a foreign national client or any other individual would be provided.

(2) REQUIRED BACKGROUND INFORMATION- An international marriage broker shall collect from a United States client or other person under paragraph (1) background information about each of the following:

(A) Any court order restricting the client's or person's physical contact or communication with or behavior towards another person, including any temporary or permanent civil restraining order or protection order.

(B) Any arrest or conviction of the client or person for homicide, murder, manslaughter, assault, battery, domestic violence, rape, sexual assault, abusive sexual contact, sexual exploitation, incest, child abuse or neglect, torture, trafficking, peonage, holding hostage, involuntary servitude, slave trade, kidnapping, abduction, unlawful criminal restraint, false imprisonment, stalking, or any similar activity in violation of Federal, State or local criminal law.

© Any arrest or conviction of the client or person for--

(i) solely or principally engaging in, or facilitating, prostitution;

(ii) any direct or indirect attempts to procure prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution; or

(iii) any receipt, in whole or in part, of the proceeds of prostitution.

(D) Any arrest or conviction of the client or person for offenses related to controlled substances or alcohol.

(E) Marital history of the client or person, including--

(i) whether the client or individual is currently married;

(ii) whether the client or person has previously been married and how many times;

(iii) how previous marriages of the client or person were terminated and the date of termination; and

(iv) whether the client or person has previously sponsored the immigration of an alien to whom the client or person was engaged or married.

(F) The ages of any children of the client or person under the age of 18.

(G) All States in which the client or person has resided since the age of 18.

(d) Penalties-

(1) FEDERAL CIVIL PENALTY-

(A) VIOLATION- An international marriage broker that violates subsection (a), (B), or © is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $20,000 for each such violation.

(B) PROCEDURES FOR IMPOSITION OF PENALTY- The Secretary of Homeland Security may impose a penalty under paragraph (A) only after notice and an opportunity for an agency hearing on the record in accordance with subchapter II of chapter 5 of title 5, United States Code.

(2) FEDERAL CRIMINAL PENALTY- An international marriage broker that violates subsection (a), (B), or © within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States shall be fined in accordance with subchapter B of chapter 229 of title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not less than 1 year and not more than 5 years, or both.

(3) STATE ENFORCEMENT- In any case in which the Attorney General of a State has reason to believe that an interest of the residents of that State has been, or is threatened to be, adversely affected by a violation of subsection (a), (B), or © by an international marriage broker , the State, as parens patriae, may bring a civil action on behalf of the residents of the State in a district court of the United States with appropriate jurisdiction to--

(A) enjoin that practice;

(B) enforce compliance with this section; or

© obtain damages.

(4) ADDITIONAL REMEDIES- The penalties and remedies under this subsection are in addition to any other penalties or remedies available under law.

(e) Nonpreemption- Nothing in this section shall preempt--

(1) any State law that provides additional protections for aliens who are utilizing the services of an international marriage broker or other international matchmaking organization; or

(2) any other or further right or remedy available under law to any party utilizing the services of an international marriage broker or other international matchmaking organization.

(f) Repeal of Mail-Order Bride Provision- Section 652 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1375) is hereby repealed.

SEC. 834. INFORMATION ABOUT LEGAL RIGHTS AND RESOURCES FOR IMMIGRANT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

(a) Development of Information Pamphlet-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall develop an information pamphlet to ensure the consistency and accuracy of information disseminated to--

(A) foreign national clients or other individuals by international marriage brokers pursuant to section 833(B)(1)©; and

(B) beneficiaries of petitions filed by United States citizens for K nonimmigrant visas.

(2) CONSULTATION WITH EXPERT ORGANIZATIONS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall develop such information pamphlet by working in consultation with non-profit, non-governmental immigrant victim advocacy organizations.

(B) Contents of Information Pamphlet- The information pamphlet required under subsection (a) shall include information on the following:

(1) The K nonimmigrant visa application process and the marriage -based immigration process, including conditional residence and adjustment of status.

(2) The requirement that international marriage brokers provide foreign national clients with background information collected from United States clients regarding their marital history and domestic violence or other violent criminal history, but that such information may not be complete or accurate.

(3) The illegality of domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse in the United States.

(4) Information on the dynamics of domestic violence.

(5) Domestic violence and sexual assault services in the United States, including the National Domestic Violence Hotline, a project of the Texas Council on Family Violence, a nonprofit organization dedicated to fighting domestic violence, and the National Sexual Assault Hotline, operated by the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network, and independent anti-sexual assault organization.

(6) A description of immigration relief available to an immigrant victim of domestic violence, sexual assault, trafficking, and other crimes under the Violence Against Women Act, including the amendments made by that Act, section 101(a)(15)(U) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(U)), and section 101(a)(15)(T) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(T)).

(7) The legal rights of immigrant victims of abuse and other crimes in immigration, criminal justice, family law, and other matters.

(8) The obligations of parents to provide child support for children.

(9) The illegality of and penalties for knowingly entering into marriage for the purpose of evading the immigration laws of the United States.

© Translation-

(1) LANGUAGES- In order to best serve the language groups most recruited by international marriage brokers and having the greatest concentration of K nonimmigrant visa applicants, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall translate the information pamphlet developed under this section, subject to paragraph (2), into the following languages:

(A) Arabic.

(B) Chinese.

© French.

(D) Hindi.

(E) Japanese.

(F) Korean.

(G) Polish.

(H) Portuguese.

(I) Russian.

(J) Spanish.

(K) Tagalog.

(L) Thai.

(M) Ukrainian.

(N) Vietnamese.

(2) MODIFICATION OF LANGUAGE- The Secretary of Homeland Security may modify the translation requirements of paragraph (1) if the report submitted under section 836(B) includes recommendations for such modification.

(d) Availability and Distribution- The information pamphlet under this subsection shall be made available and distributed as follows:

(1) INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS AND VICTIM ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS- The information pamphlet shall be made available to each international marriage broker and to each governmental or non-governmental victim advocacy organization.

(2) K NONIMMIGRANT VISA APPLICANTS-

(A) MAILING WITH IMMIGRATION FORMS- The information pamphlet shall be mailed by the National Visa Center, of the Secretary of State, to each applicant for a K nonimmigrant visa at the same time that Form DS-3032 is mailed to such applicant. The pamphlet so mailed shall be in the primary language of the applicant, or in English if no translation into the applicant's primary language is available.

(B) POSTING ON NVC WEB SITE- The Secretary of State shall post the content of the pamphlet on the web site of the National Visa Center, as well as on the web sites of all consular posts processing K nonimmigrant visa applications.

© CONSULAR INTERVIEWS- The Secretary of State shall require that the pamphlet be distributed directly to such applicants at all consular interviews for K nonimmigrant visas. If no written translation into the applicant's primary language is available, the consular officer conducting the visa interview shall review the pamphlet with the applicant orally in the applicant's primary language, in addition to distributing the pamphlet to the applicant in English.

SEC. 835. CHANGES IN PROCESSING K NONIMMIGRANT VISAS; CONSULAR CONFIDENTIALITY.

(a) K Nonimmigrant Visa Processing- Section 214(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C.
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Well, just when I thought I had seen it all.

Websites that have video of Girls Night Out, and Bachelorette parties.

Want to see what your girlfriend does on GNO?  Want to see what women do at bachelorette parties?  Want to know why the male strippers wear a towel?

My opinion of western women just dropped to a level I though im-possible.

These links contain nudity, so if you don't like nudity, don't click on 'em.

http://tinyurl.com/bonda

http://tinyurl.com/cj23d
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Main / All Men are Bastards Knife Block
Oct 13, 2005, 12:08 AM
I saw this on Mensactivism.org, and simply cannot believe it is legal to sell this.

Email them and let them know this is unacceptable.

http://tinyurl.com/72lkc

Quote
Well, isn't this the best knife block you've ever seen in your life? Forget bland polished beech, this is award winning stuff. Designed by the Italian design guru Raffaele Iannello, the 'Voodoo' - or as we like to call it the 'All Men Are Bastards' knife block, is destined to find its place among the greats in the top design museums of the world. It comes complete with a set of 5 stainless steel knives: a paring knife; bread knife; carving knife and a large and small chopping knife. Each of the five knives is held in place by a small magnet in the body, and the blades are protected at the rear by a frosted plastic sleeve. Brilliant design, superb humour, what more could you want in your kitchen (and wouldn't it make the ultimate present for any number of occasions).

Features:

All Men are Bastards knife block - with 5 stainless steel knives (a paring knife; bread knife; carving knife and a large and small chopping knife).
Knives held in place with magnets.

Size: 41 x 36 x 29cm
Ages 16+

Customer Reviews:

Write your own review and you could win a £50 IWOOT Gift Voucher!  
 
I have just received my 'All Men Are Bastards' Knife Block and, oh my god, he's gorgeous! He looks even better in the 'flesh' than he does in the catalogue. He would be even better if he had a nameplate so one could give him a name, eg an ex-boyfriend, unfriendly bailiff or tax man perhaps! I absolutely love it and can't wait to show my friends!
Dawn R
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http://bulletproofpimp.blogspot.com/
http://dontmarry.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=general
http://elfdata.com/darkforum/viewforum.php?f=2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_strike
http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/
http://faithandsociety.typepad.com/faith_a...ography_of.html
http://forum.dadsontheair.com/
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/s/sacks/02/thompsonsacks070502.htm
http://mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com/
http://science.martianbachelor.com/BP.html
http://www.americanwomensuck.com
http://www.angryharry.com
http://www.bearforum.com/cgi-bin/bbs2.pl?read=11010
http://www.bizspirit.com/publish/books/Leg...ontgetmarr.html
http://www.cooltools4men.com/
http://www.davidschweitzer.net/Lyrics/don't_get_married.htm
http://www.dontgetmarriedanytimesoon.com/
http://www.dontmarry.com/
http://www.ejfi.org/Civilization/Civilization-9.htm
http://www.etherzone.com/2002/blow071202.shtml
http://www.etherzone.com/2002/moor070902.shtml
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,94415,00.html
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/970330/posts
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/....html#the%20eye
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3951/index2.html#the%20eye
http://www.glennsacks.com/have_antifather_family.htm
http://www.heartlessbitches.com
http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0812.html
http://www.indianest.com/humor/jokes/019.htm
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2566.html
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3609.html
http://www.john-ross.net
http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.com/artma...ish/index.shtml
http://www.mattweeks.com/strike.htm
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/
http://www.mensactivism.org/articles/00/07/04/187208.shtml
http://www.mensactivism.org/articles/03/08/12/0625200.shtml
http://www.mens-network.org/
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/blog/gonz/
http://www.mens-rights.net.tc/
http://www.mrrena.com/12.shtml
http://www.nas.com/c4m/
http://www.ncfm.org/
http://www.nomarriage.com
http://www.nomoremrniceguy.com/forums/
http://www.opinionet.com/article.php?id=1852
http://www.parents4protest.co.uk/_private/family.htm
http://www.perkel.com/pbl/married/index.htm
http://www.relationshit.com/guyindex.html
http://www.rense.com/general40/few.htm
http://www.rulymob.com/
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/marriage.html
http://www.standyourground.com/
http://www.standyourground.com/forum/
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/diebitchdie.html
http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/dont_get_married.htm
http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/weblog/2003_09_21_blogger_archive.html
http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/weblog/blogger.html
http://www.the-niceguy.com
http://www.the-niceguy.com/forum/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,24390-1806966,00.html
http://www.unityinchrist.com/marriage_strike.htm
http://www3.tripnet.se/~labadal/marriage.htm
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One of the major flaws in the current Western Work Environment is that the methods that men have traditionally used to assert power and dominance over women - sexual innuendo, slaps on the behind, flirting, cutting comments based on gender and dress, etc. - have been outlawed.

While all the methods that women have traditionally used to assert power and manipulate men have not been outlawed or regulated at all.  In fact, any questioning of anything a woman does can be grounds for her to levy a sexual harassment claim and ruin the man's life and career.

EX:

I am the controller at a small construction firm.
Last Friday one of the field workers collected a check from a client, and brought it to me after normal business hours.  I work until 6 or 6:30pm.  The women, of course, go home at 5:01pm.  I placed this check on the desk of one of the secretaries in Accounting,  Sec A, and closed and locked her door.

Come Monday morning I mistakenly remember that I put it on the A/P clerks desk, Sec B.  Monday I ask if Sec B received the check.  Nope.  I ask her if she saw it.  She says no.  She and I look for the check for one day.  I asked Sec A if she saw the check.  If I put it on her desk.  I tell her the amount and payee.  She looks me in the eye and says "no".

Tuesday morning I get into work early, as usual.  I go into Sec A's office and pull open the first drawer I think of.  In it is the check that the fucking bitch lied to my face and said that she did not see, did not have, did not have in her office, did not know about.  I give her a chance to pony up.  Again, I asked Sec A if she saw the check.  If I put it on her desk.  If she saw it at all.  I tell her the amount and payee.  She looks me in the eye and says "no".

My first thought is that I should slap her lying, office politics ass silly.  Christ, I just wanted to bitch slap her.

Now if this were 1960, I would walk into her office, shut the door, grab her elbow and give her a loud dressing down.  But it isn't 1960, it's 2005.  So I have to employ less direct, more 'feminine' methods.  Closing the door is flat out.  Threatening or hitting a woman will get me arrested.  I just take the check when Sec A is out of her office, and submit it to Sec B in Accounting, and let Sec A get all spun out as she realizes I know she is a lying skank and tried to pull a fast one.  In Sun Tzu fashion, I let her destroy herself.  I look at her and engage in inane conversation about non work topics, and I smile.

Rest assured she is now on my permanent shit list.  That I have admin rights to the network, and all workstations, and can install a keylogger and IM blocker didn't occur to her.  That I have the owners ear and can make hire and fire recommendations didn't occur to her.  That I have encountered work bitches who stabbed me in the back before, and that I might know what she is up to, didn't occur to her.  

I am sure she is going to throw a fit when I institute a much more restrictive personal phone call policy in a few months.  She spends one hour a day on the phone with her kids or husband, fixing problems, managing crises, efc.  I am sure she will throw a fit when I institute a more restrictive overtime policy and her take home pay drops 20% and she can't afford to save for a down payment anymore.

I have no tolerance, zero, nada, for women at work who do this.  This has happened to me before.  As far as I am concerned she is toast and it is just a matter of time.
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Paternity Fraud being co-opted in the media, attempts to label it a 'Discrepancy'.

Note:  The recent characterization of paternity fraud as paternity discrepency in the mainstream media.  This changing of terms might indicate an attempt to defuse the situation, perhaps in advance of more men testing their children and more of these stories hitting the newswires.

"It isn't fraud, it's a testing discrepancy." which strongly implies that the responsibility lies with the test and test results, and not with the woman who dna- shopped.

Don't let these women off the hook.

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Many Dads Unknowingly Raising Others' Kids By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter
Thu Aug 11, 7:04 PM ET



THURSDAY, Aug. 11 (HealthDayNews) -- Calling it a Pandora's Box with broad health implications, British researchers say genetic testing is informing about 4 percent of fathers that a child they are raising is not their own.


The implications are huge, the study authors noted, because such revelations often lead to divorce and increased mental health problems for both the man and woman involved, including the threat of violence by the man.


In addition, children whose lives are changed by this genetic information can struggle with low self-esteem, anxiety, and increased antisocial behavior, such as aggression.


And the problem will only grow more serious as genetic testing is used for more and more purposes, including screening for organ donations and checking for genetic-based diseases such as cancer, cystic fibrosis and heart disease, the researchers said. In addition, such testing is becoming more common in police investigations.


What's needed, the researchers said, is clearer guidance on when and how to disclose such information. They believe individual and family support services and counseling should become part of paternity-testing procedures.


"At the moment, people are often receiving the results of paternity testing through e-mail and post," said lead researcher Mark Bellis, a professor of public health at the Centre for Public Health at Liverpool John Moores University.


"People are receiving what can be pretty dramatic information without being linked into health or counseling or support services," he added. "In addition, people are coming forward in more and more numbers each year to have paternity testing done."


The report appears in the August issue of the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.


The authors said they based their findings on international published scientific research and conference abstracts released between 1950 and 2004.


The study found that rates of "paternal discrepancy" range on average from less than 1 percent to as high as 30 percent, depending on the group of people looked at. For women, those who are younger, poorer or have multiple sex partners are more likely to bear a child who wasn't fathered by a long-time partner, the researchers said.


An average paternal discrepancy rate of 4 percent means about one in 25 families could be affected, the researchers said.


To determine the extent of the problem, Bellis and his colleagues collected data on increasing rates of paternity testing in North America and Europe. For example, in the United States, rates more than doubled to 310,490 between 1991 and 2001, they noted.


In Great Britain, about one-third of pregnancies are unplanned, and about one in five women in long-term relationships has had an extramarital affair, the researchers reported. These are similar to figures in other developed countries, they noted.


Yet there is a lack of support services to help people who find out about a parental discrepancy from a paternity test. "Finding out a child does not belong to them [the fathers] can have effects in terms of breakup of families and issues of safety and well-being of the child and women," Bellis said.


Bellis believes that giving counseling and support to these families needs to be considered. "We need to think about how that can be delivered," he said.


He added, "In genetic testing for health conditions, in police investigations, all these can identify discrepancies in family genetics, but there is no consideration if it is a good thing or a bad thing to let the families know about those [discrepancies]."


One expert thinks the study highlights the social downside of emerging technologies.


"Not surprisingly, the disclosure of information about unsuspected paternity comes with potentially devastating effects," said Dr. David L. Katz, an associate clinical professor of public health and director of the Prevention Research Center at Yale University School of Medicine.

"But does that mean such information should be concealed when it is a byproduct of testing for other reasons? When should paternity testing be permissible, and at the request of whom?" he added.

New knowledge means new power, but not necessarily the power to use it correctly, Katz said.

"Bellis and colleagues suggest that genetic testing has provided the power to lift a lid off Pandora's Box," he said. "As they rightly point out, it will take something other than power -- namely wisdom -- to respond productively, fairly and compassionately to all that comes flying out."

More information

The American Pregnancy Association can tell you more about paternity testing.