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No, i don't think these media types play devil's advocate unless it is something they don't like. Have you ever heard one of them play devil's advocate with a feminist? No way. No they were mouthing their own programming and brainwashing. Big red pill indeed!
Three at once! Just look at their shock and surprise towards the end. Their body language says it all. That was a great big red pill they ate!
Take the test: Feminist shenanigans or satire?
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/04/take-the-test-feminist-shenanigans-or-satire/#mbl
Yeah, maybe they got cold feet after getting hammered on the net about their depiction of AVFM. I guess we will see.
http://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=972074&binId=1.1165965&playlistPageNum=1
QuoteIt is hard to think of an example where moderates have pushed their views into the mainstream. Maybe the MRA have always been too moderate?
You should ask Elam about this.
He seems to be pretty good at shutting down the more extreme site's and attacking anyone or anything that doesn't meet his pc agenda.
I guess it feeds his egocentrism.
Why the fuck should anyone have to collect even one dollar?
600 MILLION of GOVERNMENT $$$ for women's shelter's and not a dime for men?
The government needs to step up and do the funding,not the individual.
I certainly hope that avfm doesn't turn this into some type of gravedancing in order to promote the egocentricism of avfm.
They are already acting like they are the only ones that count in all of this.
Wait 'till tommorrow when I go visit my m.p. and m.p.p. with this news.
I hold them partly responsible for this man's death.
He fought to get help for everyone else,while obviously ignoring his own need's.
Didn't he just close the door's to the m.a.s.h. because of the lack of funding?
The man who created Canada's only shelter dedicated solely to male victims of domestic violence died on Friday of an apparent suicide.
The day after he packed up his recently sold home -- also the site of the Men's Alternative Safe House -- Earl Silverman was found hanging in his garage.
Mr. Silverman closed his shelter last month, saying he could no longer afford its upkeep. He long sought funding from provincial and federal governments to help run his hybrid shelter and home, but believed he was always refused because the space was dedicated to helping male victims and their children. He said he was unable to pay for heat and grocery bills.
With all due respect to the parties involved...
I don't know outdoors, factory, or you, tigerman. From an outsider's perspective, or from mine at least, you're coming across as petty and vindictive. Taking this drama from thread to thread, inserting needling little comments into unrelated posts, continuing to post about it after the site admin asked you to take it to emails... I have not been to AVfM before, but if you are representative of the rank and file there, I'd just as soon never go. More than outdoors' or factory's posts ever could, your actions have convinced me that AVfM is a hostile environment if you don't tow the line.
I'm saying this because perhaps you don't realize that is the impression your comments and tenacity on this matter are giving to me, at least, and possibly others. I doubt that's the image you want to portray.
I'll butt out of this, now.
Tigerman - Please let this go. As far as I can see you are acting like a jilted lover. They don't like something, you do. BFD. Intruding into threads and bringing this up like you did is not facilitating the discussion, it's taking away from it.
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Note to Factory, Outdoors This is another of Paul Elam's "politically correct" appointments!
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Oh! You mean the one that one of Elam's follower's used marx from am.com to gain her personal info then slid in and hijacked her right from under his nose?
That one?
While we are at it,did you notice the call for help from Iron John on the need for donation's toward's am.com?
Seems I remember elam pledging assistance a while back,only to turn his back and never return.
Doesn't matter anyways,aside from am.com,I am pretty well dried up in the mrm.
No sense carrying on when one person declares themself a leader and refuses to acknowledge anyone else or their effort's.
If it wasn't for the Canadian's risking their neck while your master sits back and exploit's them,where would he be?
If you think that by putting all the egg's in one basket by ignoring or eliminating the self-perceived "competition" is the right thing to do,then so be it.
It could come back and bite you in the arse though.
This is not a competition,we are all s'posed to be allies and should work together,which seems to be the last thing Elam wants to do in his sole bid for fame.
No sense carrying on when one person declares themself a leader and refuses to acknowledge anyone else or their effort's.
If it wasn't for the Canadian's risking their neck while your master sits back and exploit's them,where would he be?
QuoteWhat the hell man? Can't the guy like a video and praise some MRA's without getting called a hypocrite? I mean really, let it go.
The guy spews out groundless accusations and bile against AVFM and people like me who tried to set the record straight and I am the bad guy here for exposing his inconsistency?(I'm being kinbd here!).
When so called MRA's do their best to create fault lines and divisions where none need exist - we should turn the other cheek and treat them with kid gloves?
I am man enough to apologize for my mistakes when I get it wrong and I think outdoors should do the same.
And if he was again saying negative things about AVFM or its members I could understand your frustration but when he praises some folks who happen to be from there maybe its tie for you to let it go. Same team right?