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The jerk (yes, women can be jerks now, equal rights and all) who voiced the fairy tale about demonstrators being dragged inside needs to go to a remedial activism course.  The whole point of a demonstration is to get your message in front of people who might support you.  Once you have gone to the trouble of showing up with baseball bats, umbrellas or cream pies; you defeat your entire purpose if you lie about what happened.  She reverted to an ages old feminine stand-by of playing the victim: "The mean perverts were trying to drag us inside their rape-den."

Her actual line was something like: "We object to this establishment and are willing to face arrest or personal injury to make our point."

Why is it that feminists want more rights but think they can get them by acting like spoiled children?
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Quote from: "original article"
the others acted to prevent their friends from being dragged into the club," a demonstrator, Monica Johansson, told the TT news agency
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1393&date=20050508


Now why the hokey spin job?  Why not just shoot straight and say "we came looking for a fight and we dished it out."?
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Main / Feminists advocating political murder.
Apr 14, 2006, 11:23 AM
Part of that same thread is a letter to the offending post's site suggested by one of the offended skanks.  Nope, no "free speech" issues here!

Dear Nerve:

I have been a premium subscriber for some time now, so it is with great regret that I bring to your attention a problem with an advertiser on your site that is so serious it may require that I cancel my Nerve subscription and stop reading your site.

Askmen.com runs columns by Matthew Fitzgerald. He makes his living doing appearances and writing about how awful, evil and manipulative women are. His latest column is devoted to comparing "training" a new girlfriend t training a dog. Fitzgerald writes, among other things, "ince a girlfriend's brain is unable to distinguish emotion from logic ..."

This must be stopped. Askmen.com is apparently more than willing to have this misogynist as a regular feature. I need you to stop taking their advertising dollars.

If Askmen.com is still advertised on Nerve.com in thirty days, I will cancel my subscription.
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Main / Feminists advocating political murder.
Apr 14, 2006, 11:08 AM
Here is the link to the article that got her bloodlust going:

http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_100/136b_dating_advice.html

My experience is that, in most, relationships, someone is getting treated like a dog.
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Main / Here is what women really need
Apr 14, 2006, 10:09 AM
Hmmmm, you force me to reach for my Cliff's Notes but no, I disagree.  Although I do think there is a lot to be learned there for both men and women.  Some feminists despise the play (big surprise there) while others actually warm up to the subtext long enough to see that men and women can learn to be partners, greater than the sum of their parts.
What does "Shrew" teach girls and women about character?
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Main / Here is what women really need
Apr 14, 2006, 09:44 AM
All in good fun.  I'm also the guy who writes error messages for your computer: click yes to erase hard drive or no to delete all system files.

But seriously, look at the literary foundations of women's ethics:
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (women are not responsible for the things they say and do when they are upset.)
All's fair in love and war (women can do whatever occurs to them to get what they want from relationships.)
A girl's got a right to change her mind (commitments are for men)

From Ally McBeal -woman character: I've got rules about dating co-workers.  Of course I make them up as I go along."

Can ANYONE name a piece of literature, anything that gives girls and women guidelines for life???
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Main / Here is what women really need
Apr 14, 2006, 08:51 AM
It's Friday JohnnyP, the quality control department is useless on Fridays
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Main / Here is what women really need
Apr 14, 2006, 08:26 AM
After careful consideration, I decided what women really need is their own "Seven ages of Woman."  Men are rightly annoyed that women are demanding continuously more rights but showing no signs of growth in the responsibility department.  Male notions of duty, honor etc. come largely from literature.  I threw this together in about 20 minutes so knock yourself out if you can top it.

A Gender corrected parody of Act II Scene 7 of Shakespeare's
"As You Like It"

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one woman in her time plays many parts,
Her acts being seven ages.
At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.

And then the beaming school-girl, with her satchel
And shining morning face, hand raised, bouncing in her seat,
bursting with answers, thriving in a world of rules and rewards.

And then the teen diva,
Seething like furnace with newfound power to cloud men's minds,
ever daring disaster to see what more her siren's song can bring.

Then a Cosmo-girl
Cell phone ever at her ear; coiffure'd and perpetually dieting,
Jealous of her daughter, sudden and quick in traffic,
Seeking the superwoman reputation, planning her divorce

And then the faded rose
Surgeon, beautician, couture, repeat
With eyes severe and beard and moustache waxed,

And so she plays her part.

The sixth age shifts
Full of the wisdom of her years and vocal cords going strong
Freed of feminine expectations
Longing to control the lives of those around her


Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.
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Main / Do ovaries make you Liberal?
Apr 10, 2006, 08:54 AM
The middle of the road is a bad, but popular place to be.  With almost any issue, there are two obvious and usually painful alternatives.  Complicating the already agonizing debate between the logical alternatives is the inane notion that there can always be a middle option that achieves "consensus" between the two extremes.  In any private forum, this notion is easily silenced by simply closing the door.  In our great braying democracy, the jabbering, Oprah-watching masses insist that their "split-the-difference" twaddle makes them "moderate" and that they have a "right" to be heard.  [Oh fudge, my quote key just melted.]

I submit that it is the addition of women's voices to public discourse that has sent us spiraling down the sewer toward collapse and anarchy.  Women want all conflicts to be solved through peaceful discussion (until THEY get mad, at which time clubbing with cell phones is the way to go.)  Reinforcing this tendency is the fact that some men will adopt these soft political postures in hopes of impressing attractive women (and it does work.)  Politicians with any interest in re-election must seek to appear moderate to gain the votes of these vacant drones.  Bold, decisive action and original thought have become politically untenable.

I don't in the least advocate trying to revoke the right of suffrage from women (they deserve as much suffrage as the rest of us.)  What I do advocate is that conservative women quit hiding in the wings.  Last week's news should hearten anyone thinking of plunging into politics: If Cynthia McKinney can be a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, anyone can.
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Main / Any message board discussing SEX?
Apr 07, 2006, 02:38 PM
Seems to me you're in the right place Liberty.  If you pose a sufficiently provacative and precisely worded topic for debate, your cup will runeth all over all the place.

Here's a sample to get you going:

Feminist treatment of Men's sexual behavior from a purely pathological perspective poisons social discourse.

Also,  be sure to check out Horowitz's book "The Professors" to see if any of your faculty are foaming lunatics.

Good luck in your studies!
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Here's a thought experiment:
A young man and woman get married, have children and all is well.  The husband is killed in an accident and the young mother struggles on alone and there is a delay in the life insurance settlement.  Money is tight and she takes in a border, a nice enough woman who pays her rent on time and is otherwise unremarkable.  The border leaves after staying just a few months.  Shortly after her departure, the life insurance settlement comes through for the young, single mother.

The young mother receives a notice from the local family courts that her onetime border has filed for partial custody of the children and "partner maintenance."  The young mother is forced to settle with the border.

Farfetched?  Ask a practitioner of family law.  Pass the defense of marriage amendment now
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Main / Annex Mexico!
Apr 07, 2006, 07:51 AM
The most serious objection I hear to vacating the criminally incompetent Mexican government and erasing the border between the United States and Mexico is that this might hurt Mexico's feelings (and somehow, Canada's.)  There are about five million undocumented Mexican nationals in the U.S. right now.  I call that voting with one's feet.  

Before 9/11, I knew a lot of Mexicans and it only gradually dawned on me that many of them were undocumented.  They were perfectly nice people who thought it was a little silly that they couldn't travel freely.  They like the United States for the schools and good jobs etc. and they liked Mexico for the culture and language.  Crossing the border seemed to bother them about as much as not coming to a complete stop at a deserted intersection.  They went home for weddings, funerals, holidays and vacations; and they were my friends.  Since 9/11, crossing is a BIG deal; and they don't do it anymore.  A lot of my friends have disappeared and I miss them.

The United States is more than a great place; it is a great IDEA.  People have rights here and I don't mean the "right" of some teenager to get her face pierced and break coffee shop windows.  People in the U.S. have the right to work hard and make a better life for themselves.  Mexican people deserve better than a presidente who hopes someone else can provide for the citizens he cannot.
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Main / Annex Mexico!
Apr 07, 2006, 06:37 AM
Hey Rob from Vancouver,  you must know my neighbor's sister-in-law  Ha Ha, kidding!  

But seriously, I can tell you this now.  Those "draft dodgers" were actually a crack team of Haliburton Scouts sent up to determine your resources and potential impact on future plans for global domination.  They were eventually called home during the Carter administration so not to draw undue attention and suspicion.  Their report: "No shit? That was Canada!?"

Besides, the dregs of humanity that ooze from our shores, polluting the rest of the world are called tourists.  Ours are still the worst!  We try to make up for it by packing their wallets with hard currency before they get on the plane.  The shirts and black socks are their idea.
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Main / Annex Mexico!
Apr 06, 2006, 12:45 PM
I get the idea your objections are offered in a "tip of the iceberg" sense but they still strike me as a fairly manageable set of issue areas.  In fact, if those are the biggest obstacles, Pres. Fox should be cleaning out his desk as we speak.  

I think the language issue would chafe more than the Social security problem.  As you point out SocSec is already circling the drain.  The short term problem is that there are steadily fewer workers contributing and steadily more beneficiaries cashing checks.  The long term problem is that people have no interest in planning realistically for their own retirements.  Returns on investment for that transitional decade would be staggering.  As the standard of living in the area formerly known as Mexico rose, the social security system would easily approach a state no worse than it is now (groan.)  And more hopefully, Social Security might finally be reformed, in an atmosphere of enthusiasm for capitalism, to make it truly sustainable.

Issues of language and culture lead to fist fights among Nuns, Amish and Quakers so that's a tougher nut to crack.  The foundation of my plan is that we warmly INVITE Mexicans to give their government the boot and join the winning team.  With no sense of having been conquered on their part, with no sense of being invaded on our part, all that is left is to invite the new neighbors over for a BBQ and open the recreational beverages.
The language issue will become irrelevant when the Chinese force us all to learn Mandarin anyway.

Your point about the U.S.'s track record in solving problems dovetails nicely with the observation about Mexico's greater love of capitalism.  The G-word is hiding just below the surface in each: government.  The Mexican people embrace capitalism in spite of government and the United States solves the hell out of problems when the government is looking the other way.  To twist the Libertarian creedo a bit: if you can't get the government small enough to drown in a bathtub, get a bigger bathtub.
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Main / Annex Mexico!
Apr 06, 2006, 10:57 AM
Okay Virtue, you got me on the name-calling thing, I take it back.
I still think you are mistaken about the economic point.  The current industrial capacity of Mexico is hopelessly mismanaged.  A decade of transition would likely expand the economic base to the point where current per capita welfare expenditures (sadly) could be approximated.

But the welfare thing actually raises a point of possible negotiation with Presidente Fox: For every  10 hardworking Mexicans who want to come to the U.S. we will send him 2 welfare recipients, 3 "social justice" undergrads and a lawyer

And no SecondtoDie, Texas ain't going nowhere, California we can talk about.