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Main / Good article in Toronto Sun Re: Sexist Knifeblock

Jan 19, 2006, 09:34 AM

A simple change of anatomy would make this knife block illegal and put rights organizations in a quandary

With Valentine's Day less than a month away, and love soon to fill the frigid February air, what better gift for the jilted or scorned woman to buy her estranged (fill-in-the-blank) -- or better still, herself -- than a skewer-you All Men Are Bastards knife block.

The only colour it comes in, in fact, appears to be blood red. The colour, of course, could not be more perfect or timely as Valentine's Day approaches.

There are five stainless steel knives in the All Men Are Bastards knife block, which is sculpted into the shape of a male which, depending upon the order of insertion, becomes the recipient of a torturous overkill.

Speared

One knife goes straight through the brain.

A second is speared through the heart.

A third enters the stomach but, alas, a few degrees north of the family jewels. A design flaw perhaps.

A fourth knife cuts through the right thigh, and a fifth through the left knee.

And there you have it, the perfect Valentine gift for men-hating women to either give themselves or the object of their scorn -- and all for only #59.95, or approximately $120 Canadian, delivery from the United Kingdom included.

To spare the need to Google, it can be found at www.iwantoneofthose.com.

And it has the website's ad writers hyped.

'Award-winning stuff'

"Well, isn't this the best knife block you've ever seen in your life?" the sales pitch begins. "Forget bland polished beech, this is award-winning stuff. Designed by the Italian design guru Raffaele Iannello, the 'Voodoo' -- or as we like to call it, the 'All Men Are Bastards' knife block -- is destined to find its place among the greats in the top design museums of the world."

Yes, next stop, no doubt, the Bauhaus Archive in Berlin.

It was Sun reader Terry Lear who tipped us to this nifty piece of artistic misandry, he having received an e-mail from a friend in Great Britain who, like him, is overly fatigued by the fact that men have become fair game for any slander or libel, or generalization -- and without consequence.

"Imagine," he says, "if it were a knife block called All Women Are Bastards. Or All Women Are Bitches.

"Can you imagine the hell that would break loose?"

Lear, a 56-year-old retired accountant, was so incensed, in fact, that he e-mailed British Prime Minister Tony Blair, demanding -- "not requesting" -- that the "manufacturers and retailers of this piece of trash of unbelievable sheer hatred be shut down permanently and the companies charged, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

"I have never been so enraged in my entire life."

What he got, in return, was "auto response only."

He even wrote to Prime Minister Blair's wife, Cherie, and received an electronic reply that it was "confirmed read."

But nothing more.

Lear also sent a similar e-mail to Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair and, within three days, got a response from Supt. Bob Clarke, an executive officer in the chief's office.

"We have looked into the matter and as this is a United Kingdom website, regrettably there is nothing that we are able to do."

Lear, in fact, wrote scores of e-mails -- to federal police agencies, to police associations, to political leaders, to an assortment of MPs and MPPs, to radio commentators, as well as to a number of North American newspaper agencies and magazines.

The majority came back, "Deleted without being read."

A call to the contact number at www.iwantoneofthose.com was redirected to the London office of Hill & Knowlton, which handles the website's public relations.

"I don't believe we have had any complaints," said Hill & Knowlton's Natalie Card.

She also said the item was not being sold as an All Men Are Bastards knife block, even though it is how the item is not only headlined on the website, but hyped.

"Are you sure?" she asked.

There is even a glorious review on the website from someone called Dawn R.

"I just received my All Men Are Bastards knife block and, oh my god, he's gorgeous," she gushes. "He looks even better in the 'flesh' than he does in the catalogue.

Give him a name

"He would be even better if he had a nameplate so one could give him a name, e.g.: an ex-boyfriend ..."

When asked if she could look a little deeper into the complaints department, as well as come up with the number of All Men Are Bastards knife blocks already sold, Hill & Knowlton's Natalie Card said she would call with the information within three days.

It has now been a week. And nothing.

The knife block, meanwhile, remains Out of Stock.

A new shipment, however, is promised to arrive within three weeks -- just in time for Valentine's Day.

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Bonokoski_Mark/2006/01/17/1397597.html

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Main / Importance of Fathers...A personal perspective

Oct 28, 2005, 12:42 PM

I was thinking the other day. My father died 3 months before I was born. I never knew him, or what it was like to have a male role model. It was something I sorely missed as a child, and something I sought desperately in other adult males. I would go to friends houses and just be in awe of thier fathers. I would go to school and see my favourite teachers (who were male) and just start crying because I knew I could never have that type of experience in my life.

My teen years were horrible. I did alot of drugs, booze and sex to try and cover up the pain I was feeling. To try and fill the void in my life.

Luckily, when I was 17 I started playing guitar in bar bands and met a bunch of older guys from a local band. The two guitar players took me under thier wing and really acted as father figures to me and helped me realize I needed to smarten up and take responsibility for myself.

These men were my saviours.

I think about my children, 11 and 15, and I'm sad because I've been pushed out of thier lives, for greed and my ex wife's sense of entitlement. They are without thier father and are going through the same pain I did, and it's totally unnecessary. :cry:

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Main / Men's hidden anger

Oct 23, 2005, 07:11 AM

I was teaching self defence and chemical agent tactics to a bunch of IERT members from different institutions, and one of the men had heard about my dealings with my ex wife through a mutual friend.

I was finished my lesson and we were on break and he approached me and asked how things were going. He had heard I was with a new woman and he wanted to know if I was going to remarry. His longtime girlfriend just left him and I think he was looking for some reassurance.

I told him I was fine, but things have changed radically. I no longer pay for anything substantial, I don't bail women out of thier lives miseries anymore, I don't help them at all, the house I live in is owned by the women I'm with, and I told him there was no way in hell I was going to get married again.

I then gave him some stats and anicdotes I have seen and learned about. I compared marriage to a business contract. I said "Take this contract to a lawyer and see what thier rection will be. If you leave your partner  at anytime, they receive more than half the companies assets, and you will pay your former partner to keep them in the lifestyle they are accustomed to. Any products (children) that your company makes are immediately deemed his/her property and you will no longer have access to them unless your ex-partner deems you worthy. Your partner can also make any outlandish claim they want about you and have you arrested without evidence and without fear of prosecution should the claims be blatantly false.

And oh yeah, the same rules apply should your partner decide to leave YOU because they "feel" unfullfilled and want to switch partners."

Any lawyer would think you were insane to sign such a contract. As I finished, I looked around and I was surrounded by about 12-15 men. The anger and frustration was radiating from most of them. They started telling me stories about themselves/friends/family members where the exact same things happened.

I told them that in todays social climate you're a fool to marry. They all agreed, and the couple that are married said they were afraid now after speaking to me. I told them they should be afraid. They should be writing letters to the newspaper/parliament/whoever to express thier fear.

No parent should be afraid that the state will take thier children away from them and destroy thier lives at the whim of another. :evil:

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Main / Positive article in Toronto Sun takes on Misandry!!

Jul 06, 2005, 11:16 AM

A few days ago there was a full page story in the Toronto Sun about some new book concerning infedelity. I started to read the article, and stopped when the warning signs listed started with..

If HE smells of perfume,

If HE changes his habits,

If HE...etc, etc

I even commented to my girlfriend about it, saying how this was another articles bashing men. Well I opened the paper yesterday and one of the columnists had written a great rebuttle of that misandric trash! I thought she did a great job. Here is her article below as well as an e-mail I sent her regarding it.

Sexual equality exists in infidelity

by Valerie Gibson

Here we go again -- another book about cheating men! This latest is The Script: 100% Absolutely Predictable Things Men Do When they Cheat, by Elizabeth Landers and Vicky Mainzer.

Ho. Hum. Add it to the pile. There must be hundreds of books out there on the subject of men cheating.

No doubt such books are full of good intentions on helping women survive a major life trauma, but what's this one-sided harassment all about? Why are books on cheating only about men? What about cheating women?

Infidelity is, after all, an equal opportunity these days and it's a known fact that women now cheat as frequently as men do.

Darren Morgenstern, spokesman for Ashley madison.com, the Internet dating site for people seeking affairs, agrees.

He says "although men make up the majority of our members, when it comes to 'following through,' the men and women are definitely equal."

Why then don't authors write about how to spot when your wife is having it off with someone else? For those who want to know, of course.

Double standard, I say!

Mind you, I have to point out that, whether men agree or disagree with this, it's easier to spot and catch a cheating man than it is a cheating woman.

Believe me, I know.

Women are known to be far more devious, more careful and thorough and much smarter about hiding their cheating activities.

They're also far better at faking a "happy" relationship with their partner than men. This may be because women can often be better at rationalizing their guilt than men are and know that a sudden change of behaviour runs up a red flag. When men feel guilty, they tend to buy gifts and get more affectionate towards their partners which they may feel balances their actions outside the home. But these changes make a woman's instinct antenna quiver immediately.

Women who are having an affair also rarely make blatant mistakes.

For instance, they don't leave incriminating credit card slips in their pockets or briefcases, or forget that cellphone numbers are recorded on the phone bills. On the other hand, they may not realize e-mail and text messages can be easily accessed.
 
Cheating women also don't come home smelling of after -shave or suddenly cut back on sexual activity at home. If they're having an affair, there probably hasn't been much going on at home anyway, which may be why they're cheating.

And women can be incredibly inventive so they also often come up with good lies and excuses as to why they have to be away from home or are coming home late from work more frequently.

They're also aware how changing their image suddenly can give them away. It's true, though, that women will feel compelled to buy new sexy underwear and work out at the gym more often if they've started an affair. But where a wife might find that suspicious in her husband, he, on the other hand, often sees it as self-improvement or trying to please him.

So, since it's so yesterday to see infidelity as male specific, I'd like to see less endless male bashing written about on the subject.

Maybe there should be one entitled How to Tell When A Woman is Cheating?

Good grief! WHAT AM I SAYING!

[email protected]

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Main / Misandry in my local paper

May 31, 2005, 07:07 AM

Tue, May 31, 2005


Men will enjoy life with shoe on the other foot

By Val Sears -- For the Ottawa Sun


The first year class at the Carleton school of journalism is 70% women, a number that is beginning to be reflected as well in law, medicine and a host of other academic studies.

Women are taking over the world and this is pretty exciting news for us males. After centuries of fighting the wars, ruling the lands, painting the paintings and composing the music we can sit down and relax.

Not our generation, of course, too late for that. We must carry on with what James Thurber called "the mournful burden of the male." But our grandsons, oh my, what a wonderful world.
 

Just think of the male benefits of this gender switch. They will be able to seek out and marry rich women lawyers and never have to work again. Get up late in the morning, bathe and dress, down a croissant and then off to join The Gentlemen Who Lunch. In the afternoon, shopping with the lads. A new set of clubs, perhaps or just strolling from shop to shop fingering the goods.

Then a little charity work at the club, arranging the fund-raising poker tournament. Finally home and a sent-in gourmet meal and an evening with the tarot cards.

Women will be running politics, an opportunity that began with Prime Minister Belinda Stronach here and President Hillary Clinton in the United States.

And dating. Well, free dinners in return for a flirty promise and then off in her car to a nightclub to drive her mad by constantly switching partners. Home and pretending to fumble for the keys while she gets up the nerve for a tryout kiss.

Gifts, of course, will be essential if she wishes to catch and hold your grandson's interest. Arrival at the door with a bouquet of golf balls, a long expensive courtship which ends with her down on one knee, ring in hand and the male with a decision to make.

The jewelry trade will no doubt slip. Who needs diamond cufflinks anymore? But perhaps money will became a man's best friend. A nicely wrapped roll of bills, square cut and ribbon-taped never lose their shape.

Anthropologists are already examining this gender revolution. One, Paco Underhill, in a book he calls The Worship of the Goddesses, claims that women are evolving to the point that men are in danger of becoming "exotic house pets." Hooray, I say.

Still, the famous Margaret Mead writes that "men have always been afraid that women could get along without them."

Oh, I don't think so. For those of our grandsons who don't catch a wealthy dentist, there's still muscle work or even substitute professional chores should a lawyer or two decide to take time off for babies.

We are speaking here of western countries. In some Third World realms, the parents have been foolish enough to downgrade the value of girl children and even abort them. This, in time, is bound to lead to a scarcity of women and that means their value will climb beyond the means of most modest males. There are bound to be auctions and lotteries and even the homeliest lady will be surrounded by suitors.

Cook like mother

Here in the mid-century west, women will try to capture a man who can cook like her mother but is more likely to discover her indolent husband drinks like her father.

In the end men will learn that being a husband is like any other job-- it helps if you like the boss.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Ottawa/Val_Sears/2005/05/31/1063839.html

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Main / Oh, the sweet irony

May 31, 2005, 06:10 AM

This isn't going to be a very nice post and will show and ugly side of me you may not like. Just so you know.  :wink:

When I was going through my personal hell with my ex wife, one of the 3 times I was arrested, I was arrested by one of my former co-workers and aquaintence of mine. We weren't best buddies or anything, but we would chat when we'd see each other.

So anyway, he was one of the officers that arrested me and basically said there was nothing that could be done about the false allegations, etc, and I would just have to "suck it up" and "Be a man" about it.

He came up to me in the gym about 2 months ago and was telling me how he's having problems with his live in girlfriend of 3 years. He was saying they argue all the time, and they just bought a house and the finacial stress is killing him, she doesn't want to pitch in, etc, etc.

I advised him to talk to her about his feelings and try to get her to understand how unfair she was being.

He came up to me in the gym again just yesterday, and said his now ex-girlfriend is putting him through hell!! She accused him of stalking, domestic violence, etc....the usual litany. He was saying how unfair it was and that he's a COP dammit, she can't do this to him!! LOL!!!

I just laughed and said "Welcome to my world buddy. I guess you'll just have to suck it up and be a man huh?"

Very mean on my part, but it felt oh so good.

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Main / Christina Hoff-Summers on Daily Show

Apr 28, 2005, 04:38 AM

Christina Hoff-Summers was on the Daily show with Jon Stewart last night. Man, did she come off great! I'd never heard or read anything from her before, but after seeing her last night, I;m very interested in reading her books!

What an intelligent and logical person she seems to be!!

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Main / Am I wrong?

Apr 25, 2005, 04:50 PM

Ok, this may be a touchy subject for some people, but I honestly would like some feedback.

When dealing with my children, my policy has ALWAYS been about being honest and open about everything that affects them in thier lives. If they ever had a question about something, they knew if they asked Dad, he would give them an honest no-bullshit answer.

Having said that, I have been honest with my children through my divorce ordeal and the events that happened. Including, me slapping thier mother once, her falsely accusing me of all sorts of heinous things, why thier mother simply left one day for a month, etc.,

I've been chatting with my daughter through e-mail, and I've noticed I haven't been getting responses for tha past few months. I suspected that my ex wife was erasing my communications with my daughter.

Here's is my latest e-mails from my daughter and I;

hi dad. my competion in kingston is in may. can you come? how have you been. I have been fine. i would really like it if you could come see me. wanna konw my results for my last competion. i got 1st on floor, 5th on vault, 6th on beam, and i got 8th on bars. hope you can come. buh bye

And my response:

Wow! Congratulations! That's pretty awesome that you did so well, I'm proud of you!

I'd love to come watch your competition in May, but I can't come if your mother is going to be there. I don't want her to be making up lies and calling the police on me again. Someday I'll explain everything to you and you'll understand why I don't trust your mother at all.

So, if your mother's gong to be there, then I won't be. If she's not going to be there, then I'll come.

I miss you Taylor. You should have seen me about a month ago, I shaved my head right BALD!!! HA ha!! It was great! I'm letting it grow back for now, but I really liked it bald, and it felt awesome.

See you

Love Dadinator


I then recieved this from my ex wife:

she won't be seeing this email, just like the last one you sent....so if you'd like to respond to her in a mature way w/o your bullshit...I'm sure she'd love to hear from you...if not, fuck off


I sent this exchange to my probation officer (Who I don't get along with at all) and he sent me this in reply;

I would have sent the same reply.

You e-mailed your daughter, filled it with still unresolved venom, and you tried to use your child to direct anger at her mother.  Now you e-mail me perhaps expecting that I might see that Leah had done something wrong.  Grow up.  

Your daughter reached out to you in her e-mail. She's proud, happy and wanting to share her accomplishments with her dad.  You respond by calling her mother a liar, while putting out a whopper of a lie yourself.  I don't think you have any intention of seeing your daughter's competitions.  If you did, you'd reply differently.  You'd contact me to see how a thing like that might possibly be arranged.  You'd make an ounce of an effort to see how your attending a gymnastics competition might somehow be arranged in a way that didn't breach probation and didn't ramp anger up between you & Leah further.  You'd have already taken steps to get a separation agreement worked out that would specify your access.  But you don't.  You just send back messages you know only Leah will read so you can keep making everyone sick with your anger.


So, my question is, am I in the wrong here? I think I'm just being honest, but I'm getting confused. And as for my probation officers response, I have no idea what the hell he's talking about! I don't know what lie I told, and as for a seperation agreement, we're divorced. Our terms have been spelled out for two years! I don't know what the hell he's saying. :?

So, give it to me honestly. Am I being an asshole? :roll:

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Main / Why aren't women offended by being seen as inferior?

Apr 12, 2005, 04:08 PM

GENERALIZATION ALERT *

I have my own ideas about the answer to this question, but I thought I'd throw it out there for some others insight.

Why aren't more women offended by being seen as inferior by chivalrous males and feminism. That's the message I get from these two groups concerning women.

They can't be held responsible for thier criminal acts like men because they don't know any better.

They aren't expected to support themselves or make thier way like men are.

They aren't expected to be able to DO anything unless it suits them.

They can't seem to take responsibility for thier actions in tha same manner as men.

They can't be held responsible for thier sexuality.

The list goes on and on. I spoke with my girlfriend about this, and I asked her "Doesn't this offend you that you aren't seen as capable of success and failure as men? That you need laws and rules changed in your favour?"

She agreed that she found it sickening.
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*The generalization above is merely for arguments sake and in no way reflects the opinions of this poster to such women as typhonblue, biscuitqueen, etc. Assault wishes to inform these fine ladies that he indeed realizes that not every woman is a useless leech.  :wink: [/i]

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Main / Great post from askmen.com

Mar 01, 2005, 06:48 AM

I don't know who this guy is, but he's kicking all kinds of ass over at the askmen.com message boards!!

Right now, feminists are trying to have a scenario that gives them what they consider, in their twisted minds, to be the best of both worlds - total control over a reproductive process in which they in reality only play a partial role, coupled with total lack of responsibility for the results of their actions, decisions and choices.

On the other hand, they want men to have zero control over the reproductive process, which could not happen without men, but total responsibility to simply go along with whatever choices the woman makes.

This mentality goes beyond childbearing. No feminist argues that a man should have any choice about his career. If his wife wants to stay home, he must support her and still help around the house. If she wants a career, he must adjust to that too, by assuming more responsibility around the house. All without participating in a decision that feminists claim belongs only to the woman.

Marriage and childbearing are a collaborative thing, and should involve both people. That is why it is very rare that a true believer in feminism can ever have a successful marriage.

Because this life does not allow us to have it both ways indefinitely, women are getting stuck more and more with full responsibility for their irresponsible childrearing as men pull away from situations in which they are assigned full responsibility but no control. Now these women have discovered how difficult it is to shoulder the whole burden themselves, having believed feminist gibberish about how a woman can do everything without a man (though they sure needed a man to have the child). They are discovering that what the feminists have been telling them all along is not true. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever; they should have known better. Believing in feminism is like falling for a flim-flam artist; it is your own initial greed, and desire to get something for nothing at somebody else's expense, that makes you suseptible to believe in it in the first place. But I do feel sympathy for the children, who suffer grievously because of the irresponsibility of their parents.

Feminism is another "ism" like communism, and it will eventually meet the same fate as communism, and for the same basic reason - its central tenets are in direct contradiction to human nature. As with communism, it's really only a question of how much misery it creates in the meantime, how many lives it destroys. On that score, if on few others, the feminist movement is scoring quite well.

http://p094.ezboard.com/faskmenfrm2.showMessageRange?topicID=21730.topic&start=61&stop=63

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Main / I did my part

Jan 13, 2005, 01:57 AM

A student of mine is going through a divorce. His wife was sleeping with his friend and he's thrown her out.

I gave him a copy of the article "Divorce self defence 101" and he read it. I feel much better knowing I at least made another man aware of the dangers and pitfalls of divorce and family court.  

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Main / Dad nust pay up for tuition

Jan 12, 2005, 10:13 PM

Oh Canada, the socialist/communist eutopia! :roll:

I wish I could live in Texas or somewhere half sane.  :x

VANCOUVER -- In a precedent-setting ruling, a Surrey, B.C., doctor has been ordered to pay half the cost of sending his adult daughter to medical school. Dr. William Neufeld must pay up to $22,000 in what the court called "child support" for each year of his 23-year-old daughter's medical education.

"It's just very wrong to teach the children of this province that if they happen to be the children of a person who makes more than an average amount of money, that they can just sit on their ass and do absolutely nothing and expect to be paid for it, as long as they're making good marks," Neufeld said yesterday.

"What if she says, 'No, I really don't want to make a living as a doctor anymore, I've had two years of medical school and I'd really like to be an oceanographer.' "

His daughter Jennifer, described by a judge as an "exemplary student," is attending her first year of medical school at the University of Calgary.

Case law imposes responsibility on parents to support their children through an undergraduate degree, said Karen McNeilly, lawyer for Neufeld's ex-wife Barbara Neufeld.

But the B.C. ruling sets a precedent for funding of further education.

"It certainly makes it clear that a parent might be responsible to support a child who is in the process of obtaining a professional degree," McNeilly said.

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Main / Feminist hate exposed

Jan 05, 2005, 03:18 PM

I stole this from another board I frequent. It's quite eye opening and a tool I'm going to use to post on regular boards to show the true ugly side of the feminist leaders. :shock:

Here are some quotes from feminism leaders and famous feminists:

"The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.

"I haven't the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero- sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary- vested-interest-power. But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist? No, I really don't mean that. Yes, I really do." -- Robin Morgan

"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." -- Robin Morgan

"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."
-- Robin Morgan

To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
-- Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex."
-- Valerie Solana, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things."
-- Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas)

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." -- Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." -- Andrea Dworkin

"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice." -- Andrea Dworkin

"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin

"In my own life, I don't have intercourse. That is my choice." -- Andrea Dworkin

Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." -- Andrea Dworkin

"To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is." -- Andrea Dworkin

"Q: People think you are very hostile to men.
A: I am." -- Andrea Dworkin

"Men use the night to erase us." -- Andrea Dworkin

"The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality." -- Andrea Dworkin

"Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives."
-- Andrea Dworkin

"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination."
-- Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women

"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom."
-- Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women.

"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." -- Ti-Grace Atkinson


"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression." -- Sheila Jeffrys

"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated." -- Catherine MacKinnon

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." -- Catherine MacKinnon

"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs."
-- Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)

"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent."
-- Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies.

"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men." -- Sharon Stone; Actress

"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo."
-- Jodie Foster; Actress - as quoted in The New York Times Magazine.

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female.

"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference."
-- Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime.

"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." --Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001.

"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them." - David Angier

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins

"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women...he can sexually molest his daughters... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."
-- Marilyn French (her emphasis)


"All men are rapists and that's all they are"
-- Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign.)

"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."
-- Germaine Greer.

"All men are good for is f**king, and running over with a truck".
Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University. 1995 settlement.

"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do."
-- Popular Feminist Graffiti

"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

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Main / Another debate on another forum

Dec 29, 2004, 03:22 PM

On a mixed martial arts forum I frequent a video of a teen male slapping a willing female was posted. It was a stupid juvenile stunt by BOTH parties, but of course the male chivalry kicked into high gear.

Go here http://www.mma.tv/TUF/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=533266&FID=2&p=46 to see me debate these guys, and lend a hand if you wish. :wink:

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Main / Women know how to play the system

Dec 29, 2004, 12:17 PM

I was browsing the askmen.com forum and this gem of a thread came up. Notice the responses start to get more and more blatant as to how this woman should use domestic violence and restraining orders to get all she can out of a divorce. Disgusting vile bitches. :evil:

Husband won't leave--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I asked my husband for a divorce. Told him I didn't love him and he said he loved me and was not leaving and wouldn't sign divorce papers.
He is a total pothead, works his ass off for no money, can't pay his bills ( I pay them) and would rather hang with his buddies than spend anytime with me.

Have I enabled him?

how do I unload this freeloader?




Jessie29
Registered User
Posts: 37
(12/28/04 6:55 pm)
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ezSupporter
Re: Husband won't leave
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Are you serious?

How about GET THE F*CK OUT YOU FREELOADER! Won't leave. That's priceless.

kaos1000
Registered User
Posts: 1207
(12/28/04 6:55 pm)
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Have you got a lawyer and filed?



kaos

The Punisher
also known as Frank Castle
Posts: 1406
(12/28/04 7:02 pm)
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Start screwing around with one and get him to beat the @#%$ out of your husband.

bam73
Registered User
Posts: 75
(12/28/04 7:03 pm)
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Hmm, seems to me that it only takes one to file? But then again, I've never had a divorce... maybe that varies from state to state?

Wandering Roman
Administrator
Posts: 15240
(12/28/04 7:09 pm)
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If you WANT a divorce here in the United States, guess what........you can get one anytime you want.

I actually question how much you really want a divorce. Sounds to me like you're just trying to get a reaction out of him.

bumper4409
Registered User
Posts: 60
(12/28/04 7:14 pm)
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If you really want a divorce then just leave and file. If on the other hand you just wanted a reaction from him then I would not say you enabled him, but disabled him with your mind games. Start being real and maybe he will too.

ports85
Registered User
Posts: 418
(12/28/04 7:15 pm)
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Is him being a freeloader a good enough reason not to love him anymore?

I'm more or less a freeloader (going to school and barely working) and my parents still love me.

montanas
Mike's Property
Posts: 5126
(12/28/04 7:17 pm)
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If she leaves, he has the bigger claim on the house.

You can STILL file for divorce even if he won't leave. You can have him served at work and include an order to vacate your home.

Wandering Roman
Administrator
Posts: 15242
(12/28/04 8:03 pm)
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"You can have him served at work and include an order to vacate your home."

Anticipated reply from the OP.

"But this would upset him and I don't really want to upset him."

CubsFan
Basal ganglia
Posts: 2994
(12/28/04 9:14 pm)
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Get a lawyer, document the illegal drug use (take pictures), and file without him. Get a restraining order as you do it.


lilrichgirl
Registered User
Posts: 26
(12/29/04 1:11 pm)
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You guys are so right. Thank you for your posts.

I do want a divorce though. I have contacted a few lawyers here to get information. I do know there is a 60 day waiting period after I file. Hubby said he wouldn't sign the papers and then says the till death do we part which scares the crap out of me. I just want to end it peacefully and am afraid of what he would do. I am seeing that there is no ending it peacefully.

I have been keeping the peace with him because he freaking intimidates me and I am scared of what he is capable of doing. He goes into these rages and then forgets about them the next day and won't believe me that he is acting like an ass.
I have him on tape doing drugs. plus a simple drug test can prove it as well.
thanks for your thoughts.



Jessie29
Registered User
Posts: 39
(12/29/04 1:13 pm)
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ezSupporter
Re: **slap**
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How about this, OP? Move out and get a f'ing restraining order. Why is this so @#%$ difficult?

BigSexy
Registered User
Posts: 957
(12/29/04 1:20 pm)
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When he is out of the house or working, pack up your bags, and call the police. Tell them that you need to get to a Women's Domestic Violence Shelter while your husband is gone becuase he has threatened to hurt you, and you are afraid to face him when he gets home.

Once they have referred you, GET OUT... If you end up at a shelter, the whereabouts are UNKNOWN, and he won't be able to find you if he tried. The counselors will help you with EVERYTHING, especially serving him with the divorce papers... And you will have a grounds for divorce (Domestic Abuse) which has resulted in your seeking to get out...Good luck girl

bumper4409
Registered User
Posts: 61
(12/29/04 1:21 pm)
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lilrichgirl: You have to know he needs help. Drugs is a big thing. It messes up the mind contrary to what supporters would say. If you fear for your safety know that there are safehouses available for women. If children are in the home, all the more reason to get out immediately. If you have no idea whom to call start with the police. They will get you in touch with the appropriate agencies. Even if he has not slapped you around, his rages could be characterized as verbal abuse. Get it documented, and get out. I know this is a hard thing to consider right now, but you are not thinking clearly staying there. Get out so yo can take a step back and a deep breath. Good luck to you.

cktailhr
Registered User
Posts: 208
(12/29/04 1:29 pm)
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From what my lawyer told me, for my state, once the spouse is served, they have 30 days to respond. If they do not respond in any way, shape or form, then whatever was requested in the divorce decree would be granted in the filers favor. It sounds like he is verbally threatening you, the question is, will he make good on the "death do us part". If you think he is and that he's just not bulldozing you, then run to the nearest womans shelter. You can always get another house but not another life.

Side question, you didn't know he was like this before you married him?

Ricardo
Registered User
Posts: 1829
(12/29/04 1:37 pm)
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"I have him on tape doing drugs. plus a simple drug test can prove it as well."








WTF is that supposed to mean ?
You planning on blackmailing him for a divorce ?
If you really are the breadwinner, just leave............
And take your dignity with you.


theroadlesstravelled
Registered User
Posts: 88
(12/29/04 1:58 pm)
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if he is a "freeloader" as you say, he wont be able to hire a lawyer to fight it, and the courts will grant it as uncontested....

There is no real thought process here, ....it's just do it time...

of course if that is what you REALLY want....

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Main / Domestic violence program report

Dec 13, 2004, 06:08 PM

For those of you who don't know, I am forced into a domestic violence prevention program. Well, today I had my first session. It was as I expected, a feminist dream come true.

The rule of thumb was trotted out. (I couldn't remember how that was debunked. If someone could help me I'd appreciate it.)

The .68 on the dollar wage gap myth was there. I argued this and the men were rather impressed and emboldened. The facilitators were not.

Male priveledge was hammered down my throat.

The oppression of women was compared to the Jews, Blacks, etc. :shock:

I argued as many points as I could, but the facilitators eventually started ignoring my arguments and talking over me.

I'm going to try and scan my "homework" so you can see how warped this program is, and I'll keep you up to date every week if anyone is interested.

I did ask "Why are there no women in this group." and they replied they have female only groups, but don't mix the two.

:twisted:

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Main / Funny Hate Crime Picture!

Dec 13, 2004, 11:17 AM

That cat should be jailed!!! :lol:  :lol:

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Main / My letter to the Ottawa Sun - Newspaper

Dec 13, 2004, 11:03 AM

After hearing about todays announcement by the Ontario Liberal government to spend 66 million dollars on domestic violence in support of women and children, I have to ask, why the discrimination?
It has been long discovered that women are in fact more likely than men to be the perpetrators of domestic violence. Men are victimized by thier spouses and then again by society and government who offer NO suppport or services for battered males.

My own personal experiences have been that the police, who are supposed to protect us, laugh at male victims and tell them such things as "Well I guess you better listen then, eh?"

Imagine if the genders were reversed. Would they find it funny? Below is a sample od the numerous studies that support the need for helping men. We are doing women and children no favours by excusing them for being violent.

If you would like more information or an article on this subject feel free to e-mail me and I will be glad to oblige.

Rob Wynne - Kingston

Studies supported by the National Institute Of Mental Health
Pioneering work of Straus, Gelles, and Steinmetz

The most widely reported figures, and probably the most reliable, on domestic violence and abuse are based on social studies by Straus and others supported by the National Institute of Mental Health. They report that roughly 6 million women a year are victims of some level of domestic violence in the United States. Of these 6 million women, 1.8 million are seriously assaulted every year. These estimates are based on surveys made in 1975, 1985, and 1992 (see Table 7).

However, it is widely ignored that the same studies consistently found that an equal number of men were experiencing domestic violence and an even greater number, 2.2 million men per year, are being seriously assaulted by their female partners.

Note, however, that only a small fraction of these men and women think of the events social scientists label family, or domestic violence as a crime.

As of 2002 there have been over one-hundred-and-thirty scientific studies (Straus, 1999) supporting the pioneering work of Straus, Gelles, and Steinmetz. Their results are among the most replicated of all studies in the social sciences. See, for example, the bibliography compiled by Fiebert.

All available evidence, e.g., Table 7 based on the data of Straus and Gelles (1986, p. 470) and Straus and Kantor (1994), shows a clear trend toward decreasing levels of interpersonal violence. However, the decrease of male on female violence has been more marked and continuous than the drop in female on male assaults and killings. Also, in some categories female on male aggression may actually be increasing.

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Main / The guy's rules

Dec 09, 2004, 06:07 AM

The Guys' Rules

At last a guy has taken the time to write this all down

Finally, the guys' side of the story.
(I must admit, it's pretty good.)

We always hear"the rules"
from the female side.
Now here are the rules from the male side.
These are our rules!
Please note...these are all numbered "1"
ON PURPOSE!

1. Learn to work the toilet seat.
You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down.
We need it up, you need it down.
You don't hear us complaining about you leaving it down.

1. Sunday sports. It's like the full moon
or the changing of the tides.
Let it be.

1. Shopping is NOT a sport.
And no, we are never going to think of it that way.

1. Crying is blackmail.

1. Ask for what you want.
Let us be clear on this one:
Subtle hints do not work!
Strong hints do not work!
Obvious hints do not work!
Just say it!

1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.

1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it.
That's what we do.
Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

1. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem.
See a doctor.

1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.
In fact, all comments become null and void after7 days.

1. If you won't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls,
don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are.
Don't ask us.

1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways and one of the ways makes you sad or angry,
we meant the other one.

1. You can either ask us to do something
or tell us how you want it done.
Not both.
If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself.

1. Whenever possible,
please say whatever you have to say during commercials.

1. Christopher Columbus did not need directions and neither do we.

1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings.
Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit.
We have no idea what mauve is.

1. If it itches, it will be scratched.
We do that.

1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing,"
we will act like nothing's wrong.
We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle.

1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine...Really.

1. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as baseball, the shotgun formation, or monster trucks.

1. You have enough clothes.

1. You have too many shoes.

1. I am in shape. Round is a shape.

1. Thank you for reading this.
Yes, I know, I have to sleep on the couch tonight;
but did you know men really don't mind that? It's like camping.

This place needs a giggle or two. Have a good night.  :lol:

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Main / We ARE making a difference!

Dec 05, 2004, 07:30 AM

I noticed a couple positive events in the past week that should give us heart and realize that maybe people are starting to come around.

In Maxim magazine this month thier is a little "fact" blurb stating that each year 225,000 men are abused by thier spouses.

Also in Maxim, there is a picture and blurb about "Batman" and father's for justice.

In the Saturday edition of the Ottawa Sun newspaper there is a whole column about domestic violence against men and how women aren't the only victims. (I'm trying to find an online version to paste here)