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I don't really understand the point about consistancy. Brad Pitt is at number one on this list and hes been in the top 5 or top 10 of such lists for years.
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New Woman magazine has run a survey to create a list of the world's 100 sexiest men.
http://tinyurl.com/8to73Yawn. More typical women's magazine crap. But whats kind of weird about it is that there are two 16 year old BOYS on this list of the world's sexiest MEN: Richard Fleeshman and Daniel Radcliffe.
Many Women are always saying that its men who go for younger, teenagers, but I recon women do it a lot too.
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Why end at wives.....
maybe your parents, who sacrificed a lot to raise and support you, deserve a legally enforced proportion of your income.
maybe any teachers who went beyond the call of duty to encourage and help you on the path to your career deserve a legally enforced proportion of your income.
If you had a nice boss, who gave you your first 'break' and helped you onto the ladder to success also deserves a legally enforced proportion of your income.
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Goodbye America.
Hello China.
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The problem is mainly that men are - in general - not as verbally nimble as women. And they can't spout things out so quickly and effectively on the spur of the moment as women can. In addition, most men know that if they try to counter a feminist argument in public, the feminist-minded woman could very likely become hysterical, twist the man's words, make an emotional scene, imply that he is a woman-hating wife-beating rape appologist etc.
However, online things shift in the anti-feminist's favor. This is because one can compose an argument or rebuttal in writing at ones own speed. Thinking carefully, looking up facts, and formulating arguments. Also its harder for a woman to emotionally manipulate a man online, and when writing something online a man feels emboldened not to have to toe the PC/feminist line or risk being attacked in public.
Also, if you argue with a woman in real life, you may change her mind, or you may not. Either way you have argued with one person, and unless you had an audience of hundreds of people listening in to you, thats more or less as far as it will go. However, if you put the same amount of effort into making an anti-feminist post online, then your logic and argument is there for all to see, and may influence and empower many hundreds or thousands of men.
So, all in all I think that its far better for men to argue their points online.
Nevertheless, I'm not saying one should just give in to women spouting man-hating crap in real life; just that it takes more effort and usually for less reward.
But if you want to fight back against them verbally, I would give the following advice:
1. Remain calm. Speak and breathe slowly. Try and stay totally devoid of emotion. Once they have you in the 'emotional zone' they will find it easier to manipulate you or make you look unreasonable.
2. Sometime, when you have a spare moment, write out a top 10 list of men's rights facts. Then get a book on memory techniques and commit these facts to memory. You will then have a mental fact-file on hand whenever you need it to defend yourself.
3. Ask them to confirm their position on men. For example: "Are you saying that fathers shouldnt have legal rights?" or "Are you saying that the only people who are evil in the world are straight white men?" If they are unable to answer this kind of straight question clearly or if they give an answer which displeases you then get up and leave their company immediately. If you need to say anything, simply tell them that you don't wish to spend time in a man-hater's company, any more than a black person would want to spend time at a KKK meeting.
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[email protected]Ms Toynbee,
While I realise that the Guardian generally features the best in hysterical man-bashing your latest article really does take the biscuit.
In fact, it is one of the most hateful erruptions of feminazi bile I've seen this year.
Regards
Darren Blacksmith
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Could well be true. I think women are incurably romantic.
Or, it could be...just COULD be, that women have no sense that they could lose absolutely everything they have, and half of what they'll get in future (at least) if the other person changes thier mind for ANY reason at all.
I reiterate...I was a stay home Dad, working out of the home and restricting my income because we felt one parent should be with the kids if at all possible. She then booted me out and moved her boyfriend (that she had been seeing for about 5 months) in 2 weeks later, telling the kids he was thier "new Daddy". I guess the fact he worked in the oil patch and made a ton of money had nothing to do with it (but I digress). She arbitraily decided I was not "good enough" for her, so made the switch. Fine and good so far.
But then I lost everything.......everything. I started out with nothing, paying support to her, and trying to rebuild my life.
And in the eyes of the law, I was the prick.
Thankfully the lawyer my ex hired screwed up royally in the courtroom and said a thing that made the Judge get pissed at him, which led to 50/50 custody both physical and legal.
She still got everything, I still have to walk on eggshells every time anything to do with the kids comes up. I still have to put up with the "Are you allowed to pick up your kids? Let me see a copy of the court order or I'll call thier mother toi pick them up instead (from the Principal of thier school).
Nah...women aren't romantics at all....they just know they will have to screw up REALLY bad to lose anything at all. They almost universally GAIN from divorce.
Factory,
One can barely comprehend the torture you have been through. It is things like this that fire me up massively to fight the feminist system that encourages these type of events.
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I didn't say it was proof that they expected it. What they expect is unknowable, therefore irrelevant. When talking about this issue it is more informative to simply look at the actions, not the subjective 'expectations' at some arbitrarily chosen point in time.
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Do you have a substantiated personal opinion that most women *do* think their marriages will end in divorce?
No, which is why I would never make such a statement.
It is very difficult to truly establish what most people truly think and expect. Therefore it makes more sense to look at how they behave, and something like 80% of divorces are initiated by the women.
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Could well be true. I think women are incurably romantic.
Or, it could be...just COULD be, that women have no sense that they could lose absolutely everything they have, and half of what they'll get in future (at least) if the other person changes thier mind for ANY reason at all.
No, most women never even *dream* that their marriage will end in divorce. Unrealistic of them, given the statistics, but it's true enough.
Thats your unsubstantiated personal opinion.
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Since there is so much evidence that at least some heterosexual women do not vaue men for their intrinisic emotional and physical qualities... then why do these women seek out men?
To consume.
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I'm sure that 30 year old woman who was sexually abusing the 8 year old boy saw herself as an 'incurable romantic'.
My God the scent of bullshit makes me gag.
Luckily we all here can tell the difference between romance and pedophilia. I'd imagine the only one who can't is a pedophile. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Given that you remain so wedded to the hate cult of feminism, and so blind to its effects on society, I wouldn't put anything past you.
:roll: Yes, please do cross "pedophile" off your list of my possible evils.
I'm going to assume you're not seriously implying that.
No level of depravity from feminists surprises me. The shear level of hatred for others lives manifested by the vindictive and self-centred proponents of feminism is astonishing.
Care to defend the 50 million abortions so far carried out in your country? Do you realise thats almost as many lives as the population of my country in total. I love throwing that one out at feminists, good indicator of how dark a place their soul is in.
Are you a devote of the Vagina Monologues? That famous feminist play. It condones a predatory older lesbian using an underage girl.
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I'm sure that 30 year old woman who was sexually abusing the 8 year old boy saw herself as an 'incurable romantic'.
My God the scent of bullshit makes me gag.
Luckily we all here can tell the difference between romance and pedophilia. I'd imagine the only one who can't is a pedophile. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Given that you remain so wedded to the hate cult of feminism, and so blind to its effects on society, I wouldn't put anything past you.
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I'm sure that 30 year old woman who was sexually abusing the 8 year old boy saw herself as an 'incurable romantic'.
My God the scent of bullshit makes me gag.
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Could well be true. I think women are incurably romantic.
If you define romantic as being intimately related to satisfying ones personal whims at the expense of others.
Anyway, most of these 'romance' books are just cheap soft porn.
When women like it, its called erotica, or romantic.
When men like it its called dirty porn.