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Get things back to the argument at hand and you will win.
If this is your objective, then this:
Good answer, but why not try turning it around on them? Why not just say "What? So it's okay for you to hate men, but if I complain about women I'm a woman hater? Isn't that a bit sexist?
Will lead to this:
Allow her to shift the ground into a battle over whether you hate or not and you lose.
End of story.
But if she says "You hate women." And you answer, "Yes I do." You win. The only other alternative is to simply ignore the accusation. Any refutation will lead to a discussion of hatred or non-hatred.
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Hey Harry, I've been reading your sites for over a year. Initially I thought I was the only one you saw that men are getting screwed and the bias in the news. Finding your site was a relief.
I am amazed at how quickly the mantra "You hate women" can be marshalled and used as a quick diversion. The man must now use his energies to explain that he in no way hates women.
This is why we must not let it bother us by wasting energy defending it. Today being a bitch is something to be proud of, it has no effect if you call a women one. This is how we must react when someone says you hate women. My answer to the charge "You hate women." or "You're a women hater!" on other forums is usually "Yeah, so, what's your point?" and it deflates them.
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Perhaps the right to vote should be tied to draft registration for all 18 year olds (present and future). This would necessitate universal draft registration and hopefully females required to carry their weight in combat.
Funny. On that note, I won't lift a finger to defend my country(Canada) , my country has committed treason against me and I should hang it.
If only those who were forced to register and fight in the front lines could vote, things would change very quickly here. Slowly I am beginning to believe that women should not have the right to vote either. It is not like women didn't have and don't have power, look at how that girl in Wisconsin got her brothers to put some guy into a comma for a disagreement. Think about what effect that has on her ego, her complaints = actions against those she is complaining against = power.
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It appears that many women would choice to cut their clits off rather than admit that men have legitimate complaints, concerns, and grievances.
I have noticed that many women take an attitude that they must disagree with men, otherwise they are failing all women in the battle against men (otherwise known as women's rights). This issue is embodied in the joke "If a man speaks and there isn't a woman around to correct him, is he still wrong?"
Furthermore, the word abuse gets thrown around such that it is becoming that a male being allowed to breath is abuse of women.
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I would vote for a libertarian if I thought they had a chance or if I knew that I wouldn't be throwing away my vote (ie do they have a long-term plan that will benefit from my current action -voting for their candidate).
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Chivalry is our first enemy because before we can take on feminism we must take on the men that protect them. That is the problem MRA fail to see, feminists will never change, they will laugh you off as they get in their new BMW purchased with government money.
Chivalry first (by theorizing), then convert men who practice chivalry and protect feminists, then feminism.
The problem is that parents instill chivalry into boys, both mothers and fathers.
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Owens told police he meant to hit the boy in the back or chest but hit him instead in the head, the complaint said.
This is a huge lie. These guys should get jail time. All guys should learn that it is not their jobs to protect women. What are 21-31 year old men beating up a 14 year old. At 14 I was barely stronger than a girl, puberty was just starting. I bet you that it was the female who started it.
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I've dated enough and had enough sex with enough people to know the difference between great sex and poor sex. At 24, sex has started to feel like masturbation with another person. It is highly overrated and it is not worth the costs and risks (like STDs). I keep thinking to myself, "Why do I need this person here, I can do this by myself."
Movies, marketing, and the media has tricked much of society into believing that sex is this amazing incredible experience.
Next time your getting laid, think about this:
"sex has started to feel like masturbation with another person. "
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Glenn Sacks has called on us again to act. If this is not a time to act, the present, today - I don't know when is. I hear complaints that the men's movement is an online joke and all we do is post and complain like old women. Let's prove them wrong.
For more information, listen to this week's hisside.
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TB,
After reading through that thread. You were awesome. I don't understand how you can see through the bs, but these women are incapable and make outrageous comments like:
"Most people are aware that the $.75 theory is based on factors such as childcare choices. This in itself is a problem"
I particularly enjoyed this comment:
"Lets change the groups a bit... what if black people were doing all the production of goods and white people were doing all the consuming of those goods?
I suppose, using feminist logic, I should feel sorry for white people because they aren't "empowered" to produce their own goods..."
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I wonder what Snow White means when she uses the words "aren't seen as having" rather than "don't have". Seen as by whom?
This is a brilliant insight, thanks Pat. If women aren't seen as having as much... but they do have as much sexual desire, then every woman knows they have as much sexual desire as a man and they aren't seen as having as much sexual desire by men. My question, why not? Are women covering up their sexual desires?
Of what 'power' is Snow White claiming that the penis is a symbol? How does one exercise that power?
That is what I want to know.
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Why can a woman publish a book of photographs of pubescent males yet if a man did the same of pubescent females he would be charged with child pornography?
That is disgusting, what disgusting female published a book of photographs like that?
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Pete,
I would like to thank you for all you writings, you have inspired me greatly. I have posted some of your articles and posts on other forums and every time they were greeted with enthusiasm. I am sorry about your friend, I don't know the details, but if I lost a close mate, it would take a lot of time getting over. I hope this message reaches you, us at the online men's rights movement wish you well.
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Does anyone have an idea about what happened to Gonzokid/Pete Jensen? His writing on MND is what brought me into this men's movement full force and now he is gone.
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There is no reason to support this law.
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