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Neat Trick: Mom Collects Child Support from Two Men for Same Child - and Massachusetts Appeals C

On November 2, 2004, the Massachusetts Appeals Court ruled that a mother would collect child support from two men for the same child (Department Of Revenue v. Ryan R.).

In this case, the mother had a child by Ryan while she was married to Sheldon. Three years later, she and Sheldon filed for bankruptcy.

The next year, Susan instituted divorce proceedings against Sheldon. The court awarded custody to Susan and ordered Sheldon to pay child support despite the fact that he was not the father of the child. The court explained, "...the husband is the only 'father' that the child has known during his life, and as the husband has cared throughout the marriage for the child and there is a bond that exists between the child and the husband... the husband is the 'de facto' father of the child."

Then, hoping to improve her cash-flow, and since Ryan had deeper pockets than her bankrupt ex, Susan filed a complaint for child support from Ryan too.

The court found that Ryan should also pay child support because he is the biological father of the child. But -- surprise, surprise -- after all these years, the courts still have not gotten around to ruling on Ryan's request for custody and/or "visitation."

It gets crazier and crazier...

Ned Holstein, MD, MS
Fathers and Families
Boston, MA USA

You'd better watch out when dating those single mothers, you might end up paying for their kids if "de facto father" rulings like this keep up.

Main / New John Kerry forum
Nov 10, 2004, 07:28 PM
Looks like Republicunts could care less about Father's Rights while there is a slim chance the Democrats will take up the cause.

You can't be serious...

John Kerry supported and was endorsed by NOW, a group which is full of radical feminists and has done a signifigant amount of harm to men. If you think libtards are ever going to be in your corner, think again.

Kerry Embraces the Radical Feminist Agenda
July 28, 2004
by Carey Roberts

White males have been fleeing the Democratic Party over the last 30 years. Four years ago, candidate Al Gore managed to attract only 36% of the huge 45 million white male vote. That depressing trend no doubt weighed on the minds of the delegates who gathered this week in Boston for the Democratic National Convention.

Indeed, earlier this year Democratic pollster Celinda Lake began to spread the word that the Democrats would never retake the White House unless they began to reach out to the critical male vote. But the powerful feminist faction within the Democratic Party was none too happy with that idea.

Liberal John Kerry has closely aligned himself with the feminist cause. So when it became clear that Kerry would be named as the Democratic presidential candidate, Lake gave up on her crusade.

Of course the Democrats have every right to target women. But what is interesting is how the Kerry campaign plans to court the female electorate.

That strategy became apparent on the first day that John Kerry campaigned with his new running mate John Edwards. On July 7, an upbeat Kerry boasted that his team has "better vision, better ideas," and -- get this -- "we've got better hair." Men, of course, have little interest in a candidate's hairdo.

A look at the Kerry website reveals that Kerry believes that women will fall for all manner of obsequious pandering. This is what John Kerry is telling American women:

1. "We need a president who will put the American government and legal system back on the side of women."

The truth is, practically every federal government agency has an office devoted to women's issues. But none -- that's right, none -- has an office designated for men. The Congress and Supreme Court have enacted and upheld countless laws intended to help women, including the Violence Against Women Act, abortion rights, sexual harassment rules, and many others.

2. "John Kerry will increase funding for breast and cervical cancer research."

The American Cancer Society reports that 230,000 men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2004, compared to 216,000 women told they have breast cancer. But at the National Cancer Institute, funding for breast cancer outstrips prostate cancer by more than a 3:1 margin. Mr. Kerry, please help us to understand why any fair-minded woman would want to make that research disparity even worse?

3. "We must ensure that women earn equal pay for equal work."

On average, men work 2,147 hours a year, compared to 1,675 hours for women. Men work in the more hazardous occupations such as construction and mining. And men have more work qualifications than women.

The myth of gender wage discrimination has been debunked by the Women's Freedom Network and the Independent Women's Forum. Anyone who still claims that women are paid unfairly is being intellectually dishonest...or is a die-hard socialist.

American women are arguably the most privileged of any group in history. But the Kerry-Edwards website makes it sound like women are on the verge of being shipped back to their suburban concentration camps: "But today, women are witnessing an unprecedented erosion of their basic rights."

This past Monday, Kerry's strategy to advance the radical feminist agenda was unveiled at a so-called "She Party" (rhymes with Tea Party -- get it?). The featured speaker was the feminists' "secret weapon:" none other than Peggy Kerry, sister of John.

And Peggy didn't beat around the bush. "There are three things my brother is going to do when he's elected president," she promised. John will restore $34 billion in funding for the UN Population Fund for abortion services. Then he will assure the Senate ratifies the Convention for the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women. Third, Kerry will "appoint pro-choice judges to the Supreme Court."

There's no doubt that the Democrats' appeal to the massive white male electorate will continue to decline. So the question is, what will American women think of John Kerry's sexy new hairdo?

Voting Democrat is basically handing your balls over to the feminists. At least Republicans don't pander to them.

Main / Are Democrats interested?
Nov 09, 2004, 06:47 AM
Since I was banned from the K/E site I'll have to see if I can re-register. If it is anything like it was before, it is very female centric, basically everything a man says with regards to men's rights is walking on eggshells type material.

"November 3, 2004

We will never give up.

As NOW activists gathered at the White House carrying signs that said "Count Every Vote" and "Democracy NOW," we learned that John Kerry would be conceding the election.

Despite pleas for the Kerry campaign to wait for the counting of hundreds of thousands of provisional ballots in Ohio, and for the verification of Florida results that were dramatically contrary to exit polling, the promise of the 2004 election is no more.

But the strength we gained, the alliances we created, the friends we made, the voters we registered, the debates we provoked, the activists we energized, the new feminists we elected to Congress and state legislatures . . . no one can take those away.

Your phone calls to friends and strangers, door-knocking in your own neighborhood or on the other side of the country, marching on Washington, emailing friends and co-workers, writing to undecided voters, organizing actions and events, contributing to NOW/PAC efforts and to campaigns across the country . . . in all those ways and more, you brought us to the edge of victory.

The battle of the last year is over, but a new one is beginning.

We must fight back against Bush's regressive policies on every issue. Now is not the time to be timid -- we must not give in to an agenda that endangers our rights, our freedoms, our liberty, and our lives.

We must demand our senators block every Supreme Court nominee, and every cabinet member who would deny our rights and liberties, and that they filibuster over and over and over, to prevent a Supreme Court majority that would turn women's rights and civil rights back to the 1950's.

We must take our fight to the state legislatures, state by state, bill by bill, and enact legislation that will protect us and our families.

We must continue to March for Women's Lives across the country -- expanding our million marchers into millions of voices speaking up for women's rights in their communities.

We must intensify our efforts to register, motivate and mobilize new voters, especially women, and recruit and train candidates who support women's rights, so that by 2006 there will be reinforcements for our friends in Congress who are standing up against the right wing's anti-woman agenda.
We must continue to build on the work we've done in the past year, and take the fight for our rights to every level of our government -- as our foremothers did in seeking the right to vote. For 72 years they waged the battle for our rights, going from the states to the Congress and back again, challenging president after president, persevering until they won the victory that is the birthright of women today.

We can do no less for ourselves and those we love . . .

It's time. Celebrate our victories, throw off the frustration (yes, even the despair) and join us in the bold fight ahead.

For justice,

Kim Gandy
NOW President"


A few interesting things to note here...

"We must take our fight to the state legislatures, state by state, bill by bill, and enact legislation that will protect us and our families."

When she says "protect our families", we all know what she really means is protect women and children ONLY, as proven by NOW's track record with regards to the Violence Against Women Act and other legislation. American women are currently the most protected social class in the world, I wonder what else she wants? Free tuition for women? All men in jail? Seriously, what rights are American women deprived of?

Remember, John Kerry was the lapdog of NOW, the people spoke and thank God they elected someone who does not pander to gender feminists. Now, however, is not the time to get complacent. We must marginalize people like Kim Gandy who care only for special rights and priveleges for women, NOT true equality. She talks of organizing a "March for Women's Lives", yet we also know that women live an average of seven years longer than men and men comprise over 90% of annual workplace fatalities.

While her letter may sound somewhat innocuous at first glance, a bit of reading between the lines coupled with NOW's past history gives us insight into the feminists agenda for the next four years. They are looking to advance their one sided agenda in the courts (as usual) and state legislatures on a grass roots level. How many of you keep up with what is going on in your state legislature? Perhaps I need to start keeping an eye on my local NOW chapter, lest more of my rights in Louisiana are eroded...

Main / Bruce Springsteen blows
Oct 30, 2004, 05:33 PM
The boss of what? My ass? rofl.

Do you really want to advertise that, dude?

Self ownage.

Main / Anarcho-Psychism
Oct 25, 2004, 05:05 PM
Interesting theory typhon,  I always believed that people feed of each others energies. Because of this, I've always believed in my own little "out there" theory of "emotional waves" that spread over localized populations.

For instance, person "a" gets called into the office and gets a negative critique of his or her job performance. Person goes out to lunch and because they are stressed, pissed and worried about their job, they treat their waiter who WAS in a good mood like shit and leave a small tip. Waiter gets pissed and fumbles through his next few tables, screwing up a few orders and pissing off person "b", "c", "d" and "e" in process who are late getting back to work, setting in motion a chain of events perpetuating more negativity in their lives as well.

Waiter gets home and can't shake his mood from earlier, which is then transferred to his girlfriend, who is about to go hang out with her girlfriends. In this manner, "moods" could spread like waves over localized populations, I always imagined defining them as color coded areas on a digital map of your city. The map I've always imagined as dymanic and ever changing, almost like a weather map on a computer screen. The colors would blend into each other, with no hard borders between them, just an area where a general somewhat definable mood is in the majority. "Red" would obviously sybolize anger or negative energy,  
blue would represent peaceful energy or a general absence of negative waves.

In other words, a city can be like a body of water, one huge negative event can be like a stone thrown in it, with the negative waves spreading out in all directions like a ripple in still water. I don't know, I'm probably full of shit. Enjoyed reading your OP though...

Main / We hate our fathers dot com
Oct 07, 2004, 08:33 PM
I just checked out those boards FHM. Those women are absolutely clueless, I'm dumbfounded that anyone could actually be that stupid. They seem to have a sense of entitlement to the special rights and priveleges they have as women at the expense of men. Sickening...

Main / We hate our fathers dot com
Oct 07, 2004, 08:18 PM
Did you guys catch how they described MRA groups as "cells", a little extra jab to equate us with terrorists, perhaps?


"Corina Taylor Says She Was Anally Raped

...that's why she left the business

Taylor aid she was told the scene was going to be a vaginal cream pie. Taylor said during the course of the scene the male talent started sticking his fingers up her ass. "I didn't say anything," she said. "Then he started slipping the head of his dick in. I was like, no, I don't do anal. Then they stopped and started the camera."

Taylor said the final posiion in the scene was the spoon position. She and the male talent were on a couch. "Then he stuck the entire head and half his dick in my ass again," Taylor goes on to say. "The camera got stopped again. I gave ten different excuses why I didn't want to do anal. There were other guys on the set and they were going, well, the cock's already in your ass. Finally I just took it.

"She's really cute, but for as many scenes that I've done I should have have that boxcover and it should have said Corina Taylor's first anal," Taylor continues. "I was laying there getting raped up my ass, literally. I told them no but finally took it because they weren't going to quit.

So she's fukking some guy in a porn and he talks her into anal, which she isn't sure about according to her. Not only is this little cum guzzling attention whore now saying she was raped, she's pissed she didn't get the cover for the porn and the word's  "Corina Taylor's first anal".

Talk about somebody WANTING to be a victim. I have now seen it all gentlemen, what some women will do for sympathy is amazing...

Main / Those Crazy Young Girls...
Jul 21, 2004, 09:09 AM

"Cops described 14-year-old murder suspect Kayla Marie LaSala as "cunning" when she escaped from home confinement in Mercer County, West Virginia by cutting off an electronic monitoring device and gluing it onto a cat. But an AMW viewer proved to be smarter. Thanks to a tip to the AMW Hotline, LaSala is back in custody.

LaSala is accused of murdering her father in February by stabbing him more than 100 times. Police say they do not know the motive for the vicious attack. She was allowed to stay with an uncle while she awaited her trial, scheduled for September. But police say that on Saturday, July 3rd, she escaped.

Witnesses told police they saw her getting into a dark-colored car with an unidentified African-American man. The tipster was able to identify the man, and police traced him to Altomonte Springs, Florida, just outside Orlando. Officers there tracked him down at his job on Tuesday, July 13th. They say he he admitted that LaSala was at his house. When police arrived at the location, they found LaSala playing on a computer. She was arrested without incident."

I'm waiting for the Lifetime or Hollywood movie on this chick. I bet by the time the were done with her story, she'd be the victim because of "emotional abuse" or something. All sugar and spice, eh?

Main / ...
Jul 17, 2004, 01:25 PM
Who cares what her IQ is? Nick sits back on the couch while she brings home the bacon. He probably thinks to himself every day, "Yeah, I'm hittin' that."


On June 30, a California man being forced to pay child support for a child he had not fathered got his day in court when the Second District Court of Appeal of California overturned a paternity judgment against him.

Los Angeles County, which had imposed the judgment, knew that Manuel Navarro was not the father of the child in question because DNA testing had proved so. Yet under both federal and state child-support laws, the county was still able to demand Navarro pay child support.

The court's landmark decision in Navarro's favor may well become the controlling authority for contested paternity in California and a legal precedent nationwide.

Navarro's case is typical of the false paternity claims and child-support laws that prompt men's-rights activists to condemn the family-court system as being virulently unfair to men.

When an unwed mother applies for welfare in California, the Department of Child Support Services routinely requires her to name the father(s) of her children.

The information provided is often incomplete. Moreover, even though the mother signs a declaration under penalty of perjury, false declarations go unpunished.

One step in the right direction fellas. Paternity fraud, especially rampant against soldiers in our military, has always ways ticked me off. Now we just need to make sure these women are punished for seeking a free ride from innocent men.

Main / More Women Killing Newborns in Denver
Jul 08, 2004, 09:24 AM
Man ladies are a real piece of work...

"Party On
Police: Woman Dumped Newborn in Bar Restroom, Resumed Drinking at New Bar

D E N V E R, July 8, 2004 -- A Denver woman allegedly high on cocaine gave birth in a sports bar restroom, stuffed the infant in a trash can and then continued bar-hopping with her friends, authorities said.

Erin Pendleton, 29, was being held in the city jail for investigation of first-degree murder. She was arrested last Friday, days after another woman allegedly dumped her newborn in a Denver trash bin.

Griselle Suarez, 20, is charged with first-degree murder. Police said her baby son was found alive in a trash bin but died June 28 in a hospital.

Pendleton went with her 6-year-old son and two women to Legends Bar and Grill on June 25, according to an arrest warrant affidavit. The women said Pendleton told them she had consumed a lot of cocaine before going out that evening. "

The kinder gentler sex who should always get the kids right? Going out and drinking while pregnant and high on cocaine, then having the baby in the bathroom and throwing it in a trashcan, sick. If she even knows who the father is, I wonder what he thinks about his baby suffocating and dying in a trash bag?

Main / One More Right Eroded in Louisiana
Jul 07, 2004, 01:46 PM

"State Supreme Court: Southern Trace can't have men-only restaurant
 posted: 07-06-2004

The Louisiana Supreme court ruled today that Shreveport's Southern Trace country club must allow women to dine at its male-only Men's Grille restaurant and bar.

Southern Trace's policy of a men-only restaurant that refuses to serve women is discriminatory, the justices said.

"In the 21st Century, it is simply archaic to cite protection of women from the sights and sounds of a locker room environment as an excuse for excluding them from the public dining area as it exists in this country club," the justices said."

Absolute utter complete horseshit. I've been to Southern Trace as a guest many times and the Men's Grille is basically an extension of the men's locker room. It is a place where you could go relax after golfing or working out and have a beer in a towel if you felt like it. Keep in mind Southern Trace is a PRIVATE club. Apparently our own local "Martha Burke" thinks this isn't fair, though I'm sure she supports women's only private health clubs. If I ever see Julie Lafargue on the golf course or in public I'm going to give a piece of my mind.  

Main / ...
Jul 03, 2004, 06:08 AM
You're from Shreveport. I grew up there.

I'm 31, I was born and raised here. Went to school at University Elementary, Youree Drive Middle, Captain Shreve High and Lousiana State University in Shreveport here. Was screwed in the ass by the courts here five years ago and fight continually with my ex-wife over my seven year old son. The court system is so stacked here that a woman in jail was actually awarded custody of the children over a man who was free and working. Sometimes I get so angry I want to pick up my monitor and throw it out the window when I hear the canned "stop whining" responses from women on message boards like John Kerry's.