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Quote from: "Gonzokid"
I'm 45 years old and have attended god knows how many bachelor parties, and NEVER have seen behavior like this in men.  Little wonder women hate for men to have bachelor parties, the way they behave at bachelorette parties.


I think that this is an artifact of women trying to "be like men". In so many ways, the modern women strives to emulate what she believes to be the way men act. The key here is what she believes is not how men really act in general.

The bad behavior we see with women and strippers is based in how the stereotypes of men portray them as dogs, animals, who in no way shape, way, or form would be able to control themselves around a gasp naked female. The lurid imaginings of what might be going on at the bachelor party are much more wild than the actual events that have ever occurred at any bachelor party I have attended, or any I have ever heard about. Granted, that is anecdotal evidence, but with men being "known" as pigs, of course the assumption is made that they are getting crazy and gang-banging some poor victimized stripper.

The fact of the matter is that the moment a man doesn't behave towards a stripper he is on his ass out the door if it is in public, and if it is an outcall, he is in actual physical danger (I know this as secondhand knowledge from my ex-wife's junkie hooker/stripper best friend/lover, which is a whole sad story in itself, but I digress).

What frightens me is not the double standard which this demonstrates, about how men are allowed to treat women, and the way women are allowed to treat men, nor the objectification of men as sex objects (which the feminists railed against), but the fact that casual sex is so commonplace that it is performed in public for fun - for shits and giggles - under the guise of alcohol-induced loss of control. And that this is apparently a common thing for a bachelorette party.

Just what that says about our society in general is pretty damn sad.
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Just picked this up:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/nuclear/article/0,2763,1605259,00.html

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WI asked for views in survey on disposal of nuclear waste

David Adam, environment correspondent
Monday October 31, 2005
The Guardian

Some members have stripped naked for a charity calendar but now the Women's Institute has been charged with addressing a more serious matter: how to handle thousands of tons of radioactive nuclear waste.

The WI is among a host of groups asked by a government committee to weigh up the various ways of safely disposing of the UK's store of lethal radioactive waste. The results of the public discussions will feed into the committee's final advice to ministers next year, a key step in the decision over whether to build new nuclear reactors in Britain.

Article continues
Gordon MacKerron, chairman of the committee on radioactive waste management, said: "This is an issue that affects the entire country. The views of the public are very important and combined with detailed scientific considerations will help us find a solution."

To guide public discussion, the committee has produced a booklet that introduces options and the criteria on which they should be evaluated. Professor MacKerron said: "The guide is designed for groups of people to get together, whether in a school, village hall or the local pub, to discuss the subject. You do not have to have any specialist knowledge on radioactive waste to take part."

More than 1,700 copies have been sent to groups including schools and councils. But the move has fuelled criticism that the committee is pursuing public consultation at the expense of expert advice. Senior scientists at the Royal Society and the House of Lords science and technology select committee have expressed concern over the committee's work and two members have quit in protest over how it ignored scientific advice.

John Large, an independent nuclear consultant, said: "This is public consultation gone bananas. The disposal of radioactive waste is extremely complex and you have to make sure what you're going to do is technically possible."

The committee has four options for the public to consider, including burying the waste deep underground or keeping it in specialist facilities at the surface. Prof MacKerron said: "We have another process for getting the best technical information together and there will be some way we will combine that with the best of the consultation." The government has said it first wants to solve what to do with nuclear waste before it builds more reactors. Some 470,000 cubic metres of radioactive waste are stored.


So let's not ask the scientists... let's ask the public.[/quote]
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Main / Where are the college men?
Oct 31, 2005, 12:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected], [email protected]

Dear Ms. Riley,

In your recent column, "Where are the college men?", you say a couple things that I take issue with. I'd like to point them out to you, in the hopes that perhaps you will rethink what seems to me to be a biased opinion.

"Analysts are concerned about the future of boys... McCorkell wondered why there isn't more of an outcry... Perhaps, it is because there is nothing wrong."

So you believe there is nothing wrong if boys are underachieving? Only if girls are underachieving? Do you feel this is a sexist viewpoint? Because if you reverse the genders, I guarantee practically everyone would agree it was sexist. Why are boys different?

"... if the gap persists, preferences should be given to men... Such ill-advised action might help a few boys. But it also might harm the future career of the woman who discovers a cure for breast cancer."

So it is your opinion, that both genders cannot succeed at the same time? That it is an either-or proposition? In other words, you believe that men cannot succeed without women failing? If so, then surely you would empathize with those who don't want women to succeed, as that would mean men failing.

No, I know you don't empathize, and I wouldn't expect you to do so.

It is people like you - who believe that hurting men is equal to helping women - that are holding both genders back. I find your sexist beliefs to be abhorrent and mean-spirited. I myself believe that both genders can succeed without stepping on each other's toes, and don't understand why you believe otherwise.

Boys are people too, aren't they?

Sincerely,

xxxxxxxxx
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Main / Man Joins Lawsuit Against Shelters
Oct 31, 2005, 12:28 PM
Women getting angry = righteous and justified
Man getting angry = abuse / violence

It's all we've heard for 40 years.
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They were talking about him on NPR this morning.

Apparently, he was the sole dissenter on some appeal regarding an abortion case. His dissension said that women should not be able to get abortions without their spouse's knowledge.

If my wife were going to get an abortion, I would sure want to know about it.

Why would a woman want to hide this from her husband?
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Note, the kid is baiting his mother. I'm not apologizing for her actions, but I guarantee there is some context prior to this that we are missing. there's the missing keys deal, and you can hear the smarminess in his voice.

None of them sound like very nice people.

And like I said, it doesn't excuse her abuse.
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Main / HEY! Fix your clock!
Oct 31, 2005, 12:18 PM
Quote from: "Mr. X"
Quote from: "The Biscuit Queen"
SO how the hell do you know what time it is other states? Doesn't that get really confusing?

We dont care what time it is in other states. We have sunshine, nice women and guns.


Not to mention one of the father-friendliest family courts (not that it's *really* father-friendly, rather father-friendlier). Joint custody is presumed. And we have a lot of people working for men's rights...

I sure am glad we moved here before my ex decided she wanted a divorce.

And I love not having to adjust my clock.

Other people must adjust to US!!! Mwahahaha!
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Main / Women and babies at Yale
Oct 29, 2005, 08:14 PM
Which is funny, because the whole point of feminism (well, one of them anyway) was that taking care of children was loser's work, demeaning, and a shitty job on the whole (no pun intended).

Can you say logical contradiction?

Sure I can... "Feminism".
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Main / Crash
Oct 29, 2005, 08:10 PM
Yes.

My daughter cried in my arms the night we watched Secondhand Lions and asked my why her mother didn't love her...

It touched a nerve.

But it did portray men in a very positive light, relating to children, and being men, not feminized androgynes.
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Quote from: "Sir Farts-A-Lot"
I personally dont remember any time a professional female athlete has ever tried to get into a male only league, I know it's happened in lil' leagues. I therefore don't support this.


I would like to point out that in recent months we have seen articles on girls playing on boy's soccer (football) teams, baseball teams, and even Pop Warner teams.

This is sort of a "grass-roots" level of activity.

Yet boys are not playing on girls teams.

The same attitude is making its way up the ranks to the college, and obviously pro sports.

I think the poster who talked about the double standard has pegged it exactly. Talented women should be allowed to compete with men, but men should be kept out of female competitions/leagues. Why is that?

We know the answer, but we are not allowed to say it.
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Main / *OFF TOPIC* Music.
Oct 29, 2005, 12:42 PM
Oh yeah, Wierd Al is great. The first two albums I owned were Wierd Al and the Heavy Metal Soundtrack.

Also, I wanted to point out that I was serious about offering to burn and send the TMBG kids album. I legally[/] own the MP3s, and so it is not shady to send them.

Unless you are a shill for the RIAA, that is.
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Main / NO2FEMBOTS BANNED!
Oct 29, 2005, 12:38 PM
Quote from: "Assault"
Take a break buddy and get out of all this negativity for a while. I did, and it felt great to have a breather.

Hope to see you back, soon. :D


I think we all need to do this at times. It can be incredibly overwhelming to be immersed in it day after day.

Hope to see you back.
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Main / MEN: The Final Solution
Oct 29, 2005, 12:36 PM
Quote from: "Sir Farts-A-Lot"
That's russia, and Russia's incompetant. You said that if Hillary Clinton became president, that she would execute men. Do you think the american gov't would allow that? This isn't a nation of commies, this is a democracy. The president have all-control over everything! They have a little control over alot.

In short, you are a paranoid nincumpoop, and a conspiracy theorist. ALL CONSPIRACY THEORISTS ARE WRONG. And you can quote me on that.


I would just like to point out that we do not live an a true democracy.

I believe we live in a corporatocracy - a government by and for big business. Giving corporations legal status similar to a real person did allow for great strides in economic development, but it also allowed the current control of the government by business to come about.

If executing men was good for business, sure Hillary (as a puppet, witting or unwitting) would be allowed to do so, but it ain't and it won't be for a long time.

I really think we Americans have to take steps soon to reform our government. Hell, it's one of our responsiblities, mentioned in the first few paragraphs of the constitution.
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Main / I didn't know Naomi Wolf was so cute
Oct 29, 2005, 12:30 PM
Quote from: "IMHO"
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Good think-through, but your conclusion is only one of the two most likely...some strong women end up with extremely masculine men and then settle down to a lifetime (or less, depending on who runs out of patience first) of duking it out to see who gets to be boss.


I think that's one of the biggest problems happening in marriages today.  The man and woman are no longer complementary - it's yin and yin -  a power struggle between two strong people (strong as in, bitchy-assertive-me-me-me :D).  If a man then chooses to cave in and acquiesce to his wife's every whim, he'll lose her respect and she'll inevitably leave him in the future. Either way, you will lose with a "strong" woman like this.  Avoid at all costs - or you will pay all costs.


Absolutely, feminism appears to have confused equality with androgyny.
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...WEAVE is adamant they help men, too.

"We do provide shelter services," said Michelle Coleman, WEAVE director of crisis services, stamping her foot petulantly, fully prepared to cry on demand if it would help her case. "At WEAVE we provide services to everyone."


Emphasis (and made up addition to story) mine.[/quote]