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Moral relativism muddies the waters.  No more Golden Rule we can all live by - treat others as you would want to be treated.  Instead we are told what is moral and immoral by authorities, moral stances which are often chosen through sheer expedience.  Because moral relativism can be so arbitrary, you can find yourself in a society where a parent can be denied 100% access to their children having done no wrong (and not been convicted of doing any wrong) and this situation is NOT wrong, or immoral from a societal/legal viewpoint.  It becomes a kind of "neutral" fact.  It just *is*.  The word "rape" is a heavy word, given expanded definition and importance by decades of feminism.  Now "rape" can mean sex that was consented to, and then later regretted, by a woman.  But she is afforded due process and the full weight of the law if she makes a claim for rape, no matter how frivilous.  Yet, a parent can be denied 100% access to their children, and the law does essentially nothing.  That's moral relativism. 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/4176114/Chinese-schoolboy-has-52-stitches-after-attack-from-teacher.html

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"She was very angry at the time," he said. "She ripped and tiwsted my cheeks with both her hands and then she lifted me off the ground."

The boy said he felt his face ripping off and fell back to his seat. "She still had my skin in her hands, and my face was bleeding. She looked anxious and sent me home," he said.


One day, we'll stop pretending that women cannot be physically violent. 
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Just wondering on your opinion here guys.  Lots of lovely, kind, beautiful, charming (remember that word?) women around the world as we all know.  We're harping on here about women from the west living under feminist laws taking advantage of their upper hand.  This we all know.  Not all women of course, but enough to make many guys flat-out refuse to consider marriage in the west.  And we all know it's certainly possible to meet women from other countries via the internet or just jumping on a plane and talking to women while you're on holiday.  All simple stuff.  Very approachable, intelligent (i.e. can have conversation with) women to meet in far-flung countries) who aren't aggressive/comptetitive like so many women in the west (see, I said "many", not all).   So isn't the solution simple? Why not just marry a women from a traditional country / traditional  background?

I know, I know - there are reasons why some cannot:-

- work commitments
- commtiments to visiting / looking after kids from previous marriage (lucky bugger if you actually get to still see your kids I say, sad though that statement is)
- just too big a step

Just interested in your opinions here.

And yes, well aware there are good and bad women in every country.  But without a shadow of a doubt, some countries give you much better odds of a normal family life than others.  And those countries are in South America, South East Asia and other more traditional areas of the world.  Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong  :toothy9: 
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If I could change one law, it would be to ensure enforced shared parenting in the event of separation (as  default). And I mean enforced. So both parents must work out the best way for them to get 50/50 access time. If they can't work it out, a 3rd party does (independent of parents). If either parent renegs on arrangements as much as three times, they get relegated to once a week visitation on a permanent basis. False accusations would result in loss of custody to the extent of just once every two weeks. Any denial of visitation is also penalised. All penalties enforced. It's a rough framework but it would mean both parents and children can maintain their relationships unless a parent renegs on the shared custody arrangements.
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Main / why more self-employed men than women?
Dec 25, 2008, 06:39 PM
In the UK, two thirds of self-employed people are male. If women face a glass ceiling in traditional companies, why aren't the majority of self-employed people female? After all, if you are self-employed, you are already the CEO of your business, and if feminism is to be believed, women are simply better than men at business (and everything else).why don't more women control their own destiny when it comes to a career?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1087186/Men-face-rape-charges-using-prostitutes-illegally-trafficked-Britain.html

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Those who pay a prostitute knowing she has been forcibly trafficked could even face rape charges.


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A spokesman for the English Collective of Prostitutes said: 'Prostitution is not an offence at present and we see no reason why sex between consenting adults should be criminalised just because one party pays the other for her or his services.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1086398/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-liberals-did-destroy-family-share-blame-Baby-P.html

Shows how meaningless "in the best interests of the child" mantra has become.  It translates to "we'll do what suits our ideological beliefs, the best interests of the child are actually irrelevant".

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The more we learn about the behaviour of Haringey Council, which failed so grossly in the horrific case of Baby P, the more apparent it becomes that our so-called welfare state has turned into something truly monstrous.

First, we heard from its children's department head Sharon Shoesmith that neither she nor any of her staff accepted any responsibility for what had happened. This was despite the fact that it seems not one of them had noticed that, over a period of several months, this baby was being systematically neglected, attacked, tortured, mutilated and finally left to die - all on their watch.


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And then we learned of the treatment meted out to former Haringey social worker Nevres Kemal, who sent seven letters to government departments and the Commission for Social Care Inspection warning that Haringey's child protection department was out of control.

The result was that she herself became the target of a witch-hunt, subjected to entirely trumped up allegations of child abuse - for having warned that the department was failing in its duty to protect children from abuse.


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This was part of the attempt to destroy marriage and all norms of sexual behaviour by the Left-wing intelligentsia: self-regarding social commentators and corrupted academics, feminist zealots and spineless male child psychologists and psychiatrists and sociologists who all connived at the Big Lie.

Not only that, they refused to publish research that told the truth or hounded out those few brave and honest researchers who managed to do so. This fearsome political correctness not only silenced informed debate but also made it impossible for social workers to apply basic common sense to situations crying out for action.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083966/Feminist-myths-making-equality-laws-unfair-men.html

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Further sex equality legislation should be stopped because it is unfair to men, according to an analysis published by a Labour think tank.

The idea that all women at work are victims of discrimination is a 'feminist myth', argued a senior academic. Many want to raise families rather than pursue careers.

'The myth that all or most women would be just as careerist as men, if only they were given the opportunity, has been exploded,' Dr Catherine Hakim said.
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Ever hear Obama talk about men's rights? Nope.  But his wife talks all the time about women's rights.  So does Biden of course (VAWA creator) - and you'll certainly hear Obama himself talk about women's rights in up-and-coming speeches.  But will he talk about men, other than us being rascals avoiding responsibilities?

Same in the UK.  Men's rights is a total non-issue for politicians.  Not on the agenda.  It must be that there's nothing to discuss, or that it's a real vote-loser for the female voters.  I think we know which one it is. 

I think though that IF it can be brought to the political agenda as an "acceptable" issue (lol), then you'll see men's issues discussed more openly in politics - the problem is just breaching the silence - no politician wants to drop a clanger or be seen as a "misogynist"  :rolle: by daring to mention men's issues.  They don't want to lose the female vote. 

I think now though that the state of the economy is so poor, the republicans deliberately lost the election (got my tin foil hat on) - they knew Palin wouldn't be any good.  My point being that vote-securing is less important these days than actually getting things right like keeping the economy afloat.  No government wants to be seen as trashing an economy.   It's all hands to the pumps.  Therefore tax-payers NOT voters are weilding more power (men make up the majority of tax paid into the economy).  Just a theory, but maybe this is a chance for men's rights to make it's debut into the world of politics, since politicians will look much more to tax-payers than voters in the next few years.  Your vote only goes so far.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1077266/He-seduced-Married-housewife-sex-boy-14-walks-free-court-judges-extraordinary-ruling.html

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Sharon Edwards, 40, bombarded the boy with as many as 50 text messages and emails a day, offered to buy him cocaine and regularly lured him into her bed.

Yet she walked free from court yesterday after Judge Peter Fox QC said the married housewife was an unhappy woman who was unable to resist the advances of a child.


Poor woman - can't resist the advances of a child.  And she was unhappy :sad2:

No jail sentence (suspended, she won't be going to jail).  She had sex with the 14 year old boy 4 times.  Offered him illegal drugs.   Harrassed him with text and email messages all day. 

Now for the usual impossible mind exercise: swap sexes and imagine the judge giving the same no-jail sentence to a man stalking a 14 year old girl, offering her cocaine, and having sex with her 4 times.  Nope.  He'd be looking at 10 years plus. 

You can never underestimate the value of a....

:ppass:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7613129.stm

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There has been an 86% increase in the number of teachers suspended on full pay in the UK over claims of pupil mistreatment, the BBC has learned.

The Donal McIntyre programme on BBC Radio 5 Live obtained details from Freedom of Information requests to all 204 local authorities in the UK.

Among the 40% of councils responding, the numbers suspensions rose from 168 in 2003-04 to 314 in 2007-08.

Teachers' unions say there has been a rise in false allegations.

The councils responding said almost £14.5 million was paid out in salaries for those suspended during the same period of time.

But the total cost to taxpayers will be higher when other local authorities are taken into consideration.

'Neutral act'

The most common reason for suspending a teacher was because of child protection issues, which includes allegations of verbal abuse, unreasonable force against a pupil, indecent assault, downloading child pornography


You can "get back" at your teacher through false claims that cause doubt, are hard to DISPROVE and certainly result in a suspension.

Remind anyone here of something?  Something to do with divorce and custody of children.

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Thought I'd post this, as "it" can even happen to BBC DJs : denied visitation to see his children, has already done jail time for breaking restraining order, and is on the run from the police for breaking another restraining order (faces one year in jail if caught):-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1052593/This-year-madness-Former-DJ-Andy-Kershaw-reveals-pain-bitter-struggle-children.html

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'Because we have this young, nutty dog - a Schnauzer called Buster - with a huge personality, I even sent, for the entertainment of the kids, letters ostensibly written by Buster.

'On that day, Elizabeth phoned up and Juliette said she had not shown the kids any of the letters. I hit the roof.

'I picked up the phone, gave her a rocket and sent her a number of text messages. I shouldn't have done it.

'The point about all of this is, yes, I have technically broken the law on the Isle of Man with my phone calls and messages.

'I have technically broken the restraining order and the suspended sentence which I was given.

'That's why I am wanted by the police, although I have now made no contact in four months.

'This is not harassment. I simply contacted her in a desperate attempt to get in touch with my kids.'


Yes, writing letters to your kids is breaching a restraining order it would seem  :rolle:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1052329/The-concrete-ceiling-Number-women-reaching-jobs-falling-dramatically.html

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The number of women in top jobs is falling dramatically, it has been revealed.


Cause of situation (citation from this article):
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The new push from the equality watchdog follows a series of Government- backed studies which have failed to find any evidence of discrimination against women at work or that their promotion has been blocked.

But ministers remain concerned that large numbers of women either give up work when they have children, or ease back on their careers in order to devote time to their families, sacrificing the chance of promotion and high achievement at work.


So actually this is just reality.  But wait......

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Releasing the report, entitled Sex and Power, the commission's chief executive Nicola Brewer said: 'We always speak of a glass ceiling. These figures reveal that in some cases it appears to be made of reinforced concrete. We need radical change.


:sad1: So hold on, the Labour party who pretend to care about family values aren't happy with the free choices women are making to take care of their children, and this constitutes sexual discrimination?   :icon_cyclops_ani:
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

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Now, I've known liars in my life. Their single core problem is not with themselves, but those around them. If they're never called out on their twisting of truths and fabrications, they simply continue to make larger lies.

Well, Sarah, I'm calling you a liar. And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1048809/Paxman-White-middle-class-men-face-discrimination-BBC.html

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'Do I think it is a man's world? That is the most ridiculous question I have been asked all week.'

He then listed several women in senior positions, including BBC Vision director Jana Bennett and BBC1 Controller Jay Hunt, adding: 'Is this evidence of some male conspiracy keeping women down?'


What ever happened to Michael Buerk (the last guy who worked at the BBC, and complained about the dominance of women there)?

(from 3 years ago) >>>>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4155228.stm

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The former Nine O'Clock News presenter told the Radio Times: "Life is lived in accordance with women's rules" and men are now merely "sperm donors".

Buerk added that the "shift in the balance of power between the sexes" had gone too far.
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Main / SIAM - new username of IMHO
Aug 22, 2008, 09:09 AM
Changed username - sorry for the confusion - IMHO is now SIAM.

SIAM for two reasons.

1. A bit of a joke....Sorry I'm A Man   :laughing6:
2. I will be based in old Siam (Thailand) from next month
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046682/GMTV-divorce-expert-held-police-false-claims-husband-tried-poison-her.html

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A TV divorce lawyer has been arrested after allegedly lying about her former husband trying to poison her.

Vanessa Lloyd Platt, who has appeared on programmes including GMTV and Richard & Judy, told officers that Daniel Lloyd Platt had tried to spike her food.

The 53-year-old made the claims during the later stages of the couple's divorce last year, after 17 years of marriage.


Maybe being a lawyer she thought she'd learnt a few tricks from her previous clients?
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Main / Marrying Up (another Fred column)
Aug 14, 2008, 10:34 AM
http://www.fredoneverything.net/OldGuys.shtml

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What usually happens is that a guy of, say, sixty arrives in Bangkok. Or Manila, Panama, Mexico, Saigon.... He's looking at ten or fifteen years, and knows it. He has enough money to live well on the local economy. He doesn't have a whole lot more.

For a young man, such places are candy stores. An old guy has done that, especially the kind of old guy you find in the Third World. Running the bars gets old. He's looking more to warmth, to not coming home every night to an empty apartment, to having someone to hang outwith in the day. He'll find buddies around town, but it's different.

Now, there is a curious social convention regarding guys in the later stages of life. A man of fifty is a silvering figure of masculinity but, somewhere around sixty, he becomes in the public mind a doddering idiot. The phrase "little old man" comes into play. He is either a dirty old man (implying that he has the instincts of all males from the age of fifteen) or a manipulable dunderhead subject to the wiles of any bit of fluff. How pitiable.

Actually he is much more likely to be a bush pilot out of Alaska or ex-Special Forces or a veteran of thirty years in the oil business in the Pacific. Dimwits and weak sisters don't often show up single in such places. They've known the girls and the places where you find girls for decades, some going as far back as BC Street in Koza. They know what is what, and are unlikely to get flensed.

Here it is important to get beyond the often unconscious but powerful condescension that so many have toward Third-Worlders. This attitude urges that women (and men, but we are not here interested in men) in most of the world are ignorant if not illiterate, uncouth and, not to put too fine a point on it, not very bright. This view doesn't hold up well to experience.

Women are naturally classy unless, like so many American women, they have consciously appropriated the manners of cattle rustlers, running backs, and rabid badgers as an intensely sought ideological goal. In most places women dress well if they possibly can, and behave well. Many are intelligent, which is more important than formal education in being good company. They generally are just plain good people. And they are far tougher and more self-reliant than are cosseted editresses in New York.

So things look pretty good from the guy's point of view.

From the woman's point of view, American (and in general First World) men also look pretty good. The cold fact is that American men treat women well. In a lot of countries, the men are--I'm trying to think of a polite euphemism for "real dickheads"; one will come to me in a moment. They beat their wives, cheat on them, treat them like chattels. American men don't. (There are exceptions to all of this, of course, but they are exceptions.) A gringo wants his wife to be part of his life. He will go to dinner with her, take her desires into account, and treat her as an equal. Koreans won't.


Funny and true.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1042998/Girls-taught-feminism-school-counter-negative-influences-celebrity-role-models.html

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Dr Ringrose said most schools see gender equality in terms of exam results, where girls now outshine boys in most subjects.

But in the adult world, women are still paid far less and face dilemmas trying to balance work and family life.

Feminism needs to be 'reinvigorated', said Dr Ringrose.


My response (probably won't get published)

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Feminism has become so corrupt in its thinking to the point it's simply now an attack against men, rather than trying to improve women's lives.

Dr Ringrose reveals her true motives by mentioning the wage gap.  The wage gap takes one effect (a real, actual wage gap) and creates a mythical cause for it (sexual discrimination).  There is no wage gap for like-for-like jobs - only as an aggregate total for men, and one for women (there is a gap between these totals).  This gap has nothing to do with sexual discrimination, but the choices men and women make.  And why is it necessary to teach girls about such myths? It will only fuel resentment against men....ahh, could we be getting closer to the truth about feminism if we meditate on that possibility?

Anyway, there is no place in schools to brainwash girls into hating men.  We have enough of that in the media and law courts thank you very much.
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Main / Great quote on single motherhood
Aug 03, 2008, 04:46 AM
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The fact that some children manage with just one parent is no more an endorsement of single parenthood than driving with a flat tyre is an argument for three-wheeled cars.


http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article4448371.ece

Great quote.  This is something to retort to the usual line of "single mothers are doing a great job blah blah blah".   

A single mother cannot do the job of two parents, no matter how veciferously they say they can.