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Messages - natalie clifford barney
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Natalie, Natalie, Natalie....
What I've not seen, after one entire day of engaging the members of this forum, is exactly what it is you are *for*.
Speaking only for myself, I am "for" you to not ever, ever....
try to "engage" any man's attention.... ever, ever.
Anymore.
Please?
Excuse me if indeed you are now "engaged" to one of our posters.
That would be a hoot! :wink:
No worries there, rest assured.
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by the way, we don't have to answer to you for your approval. You came to us.
Yes, and I can waltz right back out, no harm, no foul.
You can remain silent, answer, or pontificate...
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Generally speaking, our goal is to destroy the bankrupt self-contradictory destructive sexist ideologies of feminism and political correctness.
Once again, do enlighten me. How so? What is political correctness?
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My goal is to show the hypocrisy, the bias against men, and the scapegoating of men by feminism. And I think I did a little bit of that good deed today.
Ah, but not in response to me... so here's your chance. Enlighten me.
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your ability to dominate women, in the western world at least... has come to an end
When was this as I seemed to have missed it. I am almost the same age as these feminists who were complaining about it. So when was it that I could dominate women?
If you are my age you are over a half century old. A lot has changed in my lifetime, and it is nice to have been a part of making it happen.
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If your way is rolling back the clock, dream on.
You are aware, that we have a hidden forum here where we discuss exactly that, right? Oops, I've said too much...
SG
... and I'm a member of the lesbian mafia. Good for you.
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Very well...
Out of respect for her, image now deleted.
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I'd like to read the news story, then would be happy to comment.
I've lost the links, but it was a verified true story, complete with links to legal documents and all. Basically, a woman committed statutory rape on a twelve year old and became pregnant. She then petitioned for child support, and it was deemed "in the best interests of the child" that he pay. I may have it bookmarked, I'll look...
SG
I'd like to see the story. I seriously doubt a 12 year old could be compelled to pay. Was this the judge who was wanking under his desk with the pump, by any chance? ;-)
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Interesting responses!
What I've not seen, after one entire day of engaging the members of this forum, is exactly what it is you are *for*.
When I speak of feminist issues, can cite my goals, my concerns, and issues. Same with lgbt issues ( I am particularly concerned about our young not having to go through what we did... yet too many are tossed from their homes. Ah, I digress.)
Why is it you are here? What do you wish to accomplish? Is it simply to stop feminism? Or is the goal a bit more altruistic and noble? To better society? What wrongs have you experienced that has led you here?
Ok, now... you can deride my orientation, but it changes nothing except weaken your point of view. You can engage in a higher level of debate than focusing on my personal orientation.
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to his rapist? Maybe the laws need to be reformed?
She is probably gone now, but I think that only feminist logic can explain why this is not a miscarraige of justice.
I'd like to read the news story, then would be happy to comment.
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... and one day you will wake to find that women graduate from universities at a rate four times men, and that they are now your superior at work.
All it takes is for men to wake up and quit allowing affirmative action for women, female-oriented teaching and all the rest.
There has to be a point where even the most chivalristic, dull-witted man is going to wake up to the fact that he is being used. Maybe the feminist crap should go even further until it becomes absolutely clear to even the stupidest man. And then you'll see a sudden reversal.
It certainly has happened before, but your words imply a power you no longer have. You are free to be all you can be as a human being, but your ability to dominate women, in the western world at least... has come to an end. There will be no reversal. Exactly what would you reverse to? A time when women had no recourse from abuse and molestation? When we did not have choice governing our own bodies? Back to a day when women were not allowed to be educated? To work outside the home? To have their own bank account and their own credit? When most good jobs were men only, and women need be secretaries?
Is this what you yearn for? Or is it respect you seek? You will get respect by earning it, by being accepting of those around you, by adjusting to women as equal partners in society. Many men have already done this, but some resist. Some feel wronged by the system, be it child support, division of assets, etc. I won't count cheating spouses, because both men and women can make claim to scoundrel partners.
We are not out to get you, to take from you. We in turn wish for respect, to be thought of in terms of things other than a piece of meat you can jump on.
Once again, it is your choice. If your way is rolling back the clock, dream on.
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Is that my dearest nelllenelle? :heartbeat:
rofl, in groucho glasses! Who else uses green type?
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Our future is our own. Women will work for equality, and we will achieve it one way or another. I find it sad that men see this as direct opposition to them, a threat to them. It is neither. You are already seeing the adverse effects of this unwillingness to change to a more accepting and diverse view; and one day you will wake to find that women graduate from universities at a rate four times men, and that they are now your superior at work. It need not be this way, but it is your choice as to whether you open your minds or not.
My coach is about to turn into a pumpkin.
Best wishes.
nelle
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That's cool - but we're not on a date here, Natalie. You seem to find it astounding that men would dare question what you say.
If this board is simply a place for friends to hang out, I'd take another approach, and what he said would be fine; if it exists to debate gender issues, then what I've asked is fair rebuttal..
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I asked you if it was. It seems you are saying the sex industry objectifies women's bodies.
Since most feminists speak, and care more, about women's bodies in industry, rather than men's (while men's bodies are more in danger), would that not mean they don't care about men as much as they do women?
Feminists speak about feminism... must we cite all our views beyond feminism each time we speak? I've a broad range of interests, and feminism is but one part of them... I'm passionate about politics and about lgbt issues. As part of my political outlook, you bet I am concerned about the safety of workers in the workplace.
