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Main / Re: virginia tech.
Apr 17, 2007, 02:00 PM

Note: addition:  This man was a S KOREAN VISA STUDENT.  This is important.  What with all the American White Male Scumfest going on.


From the looks of it, it seems as though early media reports of the gunman were a bit off. The current statements are that he is

"Cho Seung-hui, a South Korean national living in Virginia as a United States permanent resident. He arrived in the US with his family as an eight-year-old child in 1992."

Main / Re: virginia tech.
Apr 17, 2007, 01:56 PM

Yeah, I saw that.  It just said he was referred, I wonder if he actually went?  The antidepressants imply that he'd at least seen a psychiatrist. 

I don't know about the US, but in the UK it's fairly common for a GP to perscribe AD's, especially if they know there will be a long waiting time for a psychiatrist. I'd put my money on had been refered and was delayed getting an appointment by long waiting lists, which will all suddenly become much shorter now this has happened. The waiting list for a councellor at my uni last time I tried was 6 weeks. Until a student killed themselves last term - now it's less than two days.
Hopefully this will bring up more awareness of the importance of having sufficient resources to deal with mental health issues in college. Then at least some good would come of it.

Main / Re: virginia tech.
Apr 17, 2007, 11:31 AM

The lack of mental health services made available to males (at the same level as what is available to females, INCLUDING help specifically tailored to males and help available to males in a male-only forum) creates two problems -- first, the general lack of help facilitates this kind of thing, and second, it makes it look like a male problem.  It is a male problem, of course, in that males are not getting help whereas females are.

I'm not just referring to the lack of official support at the level of services, but also the lack of societal support.

Claims that he had been referred to the councelling service, and was on anti-depressants.

Some food for thought:

The perpetrator of this ghastly act was male.  However, most of the victims were likely male as well (being that Virginia Tech emphasizes science and engineering).   Also, the police and emergency crews were also likely to be predominantly male.

So males are overrepresented at the extremes of violence and heroism, with the common denominator being the willingness to take risks.  Fortunately, the heroes seem to predominate.


Have you seen

on an Engineering Professor who died saving his students lives. I think someone should put a statue up to him.
Main / Re: Quilt project
Feb 07, 2007, 07:40 AM
To the photos vs. quilt idea - you can get paper that will transfer printed images (like photos, list of names etc) onto a piece of fabric. Costs about 1 for an A4 sheet.
Main / Re: Female Privledge Checklist
Jan 29, 2007, 06:56 PM

8.  If I excel in math and science in high school, I will not have my sexual orientation brought into question.

This surprised me. I honestly couldn't imagine a single guy I know getting his sexuality questioned for being good at maths or science. Perhaps a UK vs. US thing? Here Maths/ Sciences = Masculine, English/Arts = Effeminate.
First of all, surely even the most vitriolic man-hater must realize that if all men on Earth die, the human race would go extinct within decades

Not nessisarily. Current sperm bank levels could keep going for quite a while. Then they could use cloning techniques to keep going.

And they already have a method for creating a zygote from two female gametes (in mice) - they wouldn't nessisarily have to keep going too long, just until they'd got that to a level suitable for use in humans.

Main / Re: Cowgirls Espresso
Jan 24, 2007, 03:42 PM
I have a feeling they don't have a gender-blind hiring process...
Now I really liked John Tucker Must Die.

Every thing they did to him, he came out of it looking far better than they did (i.e. when they spread the rumour he had an STD, he turned it into a opportunity to spread awareness about STD's). Even the girls admit he didn't deserve what they did to him by the end.
Main / False rape claim woman faces jail
Oct 10, 2006, 02:16 PM

An 18-year-old woman is facing a jail sentence after falsely claiming she was raped by a stranger in an alleyway.
Katie Davis's allegation condemned an innocent man, Frank Chisholm, 24, to 10 weeks in an East Sussex jail after he was charged with rape in St Leonards.

The charge was later dropped when forensic tests proved Davis was lying.

A judge at Lewes Crown Court told Davis her actions were "wicked and evil" after she was found guilty on Tuesday of perverting the course of justice.

Davis, of Blackman Avenue, St Leonards, broke down as Judge Richard Brown said a custodial sentence was inevitable.

She collapsed into the arms of relatives as she emerged from the dock.

" This case highlights the difficulty that the police face when investigating reports of rape "Det Sgt Geoff Childs

Judge Brown said Mr Chisholm, who always maintained the pair had consensual sex, had no stain against his character.

He was not in court to hear the verdict, but in a witness statement said vandals had targeted his home in Battle Road and shouted abuse at him in the street as a result of the case.

"I used to be an outgoing, personable and sociable person," he said.

"Now I can't bear to go out and I'm very wary of girls. This seems like a nightmare that will never end."

The court had heard Davis told police she was raped by a masked man in an alleyway off Battle Road on the night of 6 March last year.

The judge said Frank Chisholm had no stain against his character

She invented the story because she feared she could be pregnant after having unprotected sex with railway worker Mr Chisholm.

DNA evidence linked him to Ms Davis, who was 16 at the time of the incident, and clamed to be a virgin.

The charge against Mr Chisholm was dropped after fibres found on Davis's fleece showed it had come into direct and prolonged contact with the duvet on his bed.

Discrepancies and inconsistencies in her story also gave police "serious doubts" about her allegations.

Following the case, Sussex Police said they regretted that Mr Chisholm had spent time in jail.

Divergent accounts

But they and the Crown Prosecution Service had believed there was sufficient evidence to pursue a rape case.

"Rape is a violent crime. The police always treat allegations of rape seriously," said Det Sgt Geoff Childs.

"This case highlights the difficulty that the police face when investigating reports of rape.

"Although the police usually identify a suspect, difficulties often arise in proving the divergent accounts of both parties.

"It is common for an accused to state that the act was consensual."

He said the police acted immediately to secure Mr Chisholm's release after they received the forensic results.

Davis was released on conditional bail until 13 November to allow pre-sentence and psychiatric reports to be prepared.
Main / New maternity leave laws in UK
Oct 03, 2006, 09:48 AM
I'm fairly sure men in the UK can take several months paternity leave when a new child enters the household (either sex can also take time off at the start of an adoption to help new kid settle in). Not as long as women can take, but there are plans to extend it (and the sooner the better in my opinion!)

Would these new laws extend to men in a similar way (i.e. if your partner gave birth the day you were supposed to start a new job can you take the time off) ?
Main / Rather freaky
Oct 03, 2006, 09:44 AM
Quote from: "neonsamurai"
The guy was a close friend, somebody I looked up to and I kind of used him as a way to judge how I was doing in my life, so when he suddenly dropped this bombshell it got me reevaluating a lot of shit in my life.

Very much with you on that. She has been, while not a close friend since I started uni, but someone I looked up to. She was in the year above me, had often just finished whatever committee position I was applying for. Hell, I bet half of my e-mails over the last few years have been to her asking "how would you handle this? Did it ever come up last year".

This time last year he had just started marriage with a lovely young lady, graduated from uni and was about to start making his way in the world. And since then it's been switch and change gender/orientation/name every few months.
Main / Rather freaky
Oct 03, 2006, 09:40 AM
Quote from: "CaptDMO"
1. I'm not buying it. Not for a second!
2. How many hormone "treatments" and other spiffy chemical alterations
have been involved? For how many years?

She only came out fully a few months ago, so the only things she has done are started wearing girls clothes and make-up and having facial hair lasered off. Nothing that could possibly impact chromosones.
Main / My essay on male bashing.
Oct 02, 2006, 12:37 PM
Sin City got $33M in sales the
first weekend it was released

Is this the best example? If I remember right, doesn't it also have women being cut up and eaten?

What about that recent superhero one? Lots of male bashing in that with nothing happening to the women in it.
Main / N.O.W. Running Scared In Michigan
Oct 02, 2006, 12:34 PM
If this were true, then why do women file for divorce 80% of the time?

They assume the men won't contest for custody?

If true, the figure is encouraging - rather than fight the system directly, we could concentrate on encouraging men to seek custody of their children and supplying the support they need to present their case.