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The Last Generation?
Is this for real?
Is the "Social Transformation" complete?
Should we trust this idea that Feminism is going to die off -literally and figuratively?
Or is it just going to be disguised under a seemingly benign identity?
Personally, I think it's the latter.
I've seen too much Newspeak to see how easily it's done. :roll:
Lets bring it down to brass tacks.
Womanist movements(I'm using the word to lump together all abolitionists, suffragettes and feminists) have always exerted a far larger influence then their actual representation in the hierarchy of power. Suffragettes did not have a vote yet they successfully lobbied politicians to give them one. If those politicians had been in a patriarchal culture they would have been actively against women gaining any power. If they had been in an equitable culture they would have pointed at women's power as wives and mothers and said "checks and balances, m'lady, sorry."
Likewise women today comprise the minority of power positions in, for example, the corperate hierarchy, yet they exert far more influence then their presence should justify.
How do women manage this? What is this mysterious power that women have to force politicians (prior to attaining the vote), corperate heads, college deans, news editors... to do what they want?
Anyone want to take a stab at answering that?
Quote from: "Laboratory Mike"For the question of "from where came feminism," I don't know, though my personal speculation is that it got going around the time of the Victorian era, when women were put on a pedestal.
But they were put on a pedestal in a *Christian* context.
QuoteSince then, the "women as nearly divine beings" concept has grown and grown, and unsurprisingly, it grew as Christianity began to sink.
Perhaps it is because feminism offered a competing womanist paradigm that provided more benefits to women without as many restrictions?
QuoteI'd also point out that feminist-controlled churches have been shrinking and shrinking, while in the US, the more "conservative" ones are growing, and that many Christians are identifying with the MRM while feminists bash Christianity as patriarchal.
Special Report: The American Church in Crisis
Church attendance is declining both absolutely and as a preportion of the population of the US.
Like what? Christians demand both women *and* men be chaste and not promiscuous or adulterous.
Is there anything that Christians demand of women that doesn't have a parallel demand for men?
Men are More Likely Than Women to Be Victims in Dating Violence
Newswise -- A 32-nation study of violence against dating partners by university partners found that about a third had been violent, and most incidents of partner violence involve violence by both the man and woman, according to Murray Straus, founder and co-director of the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire. The second largest category was couples where the female partner was the only one to carry about physical attacks, not the male partner.
Straus' new research also found that dominance by the female partner is even more closely related to violence by women than is male dominance. These results call into question the widely held belief that partner violence is primarily a male crime and that when women are violent it is self defense.
"In the 35 years since I began research on partner violence, I have seen my assumptions about prevalence and etiology contradicted by a mass of empirical evidence from my own research and from research by many others," Straus said. "My view on partner violence now recognizes the overwhelming evidence that women assault their partners at about the same rate as men. However, when women are violent, the injury rate is lower."
Straus will present his controversial research at the Trends in Intimate Violence Intervention conference in New York City May 22-25, 2006. This research is part of the International Dating Violence Study, a multinational study of violence against dating partners by university students. A consortium of researchers around the world collected data from 13,601 students at 68 universities in 32 nations.
In the paper, Straus calls for an end to the focus on men as the only perpetrators of dating violence, saying the refusal to recognize the multi-causal nature of the problem is hampering the effort to end domestic violence and ignoring half the perpetrators. As recently as December 2005, the National Institute of Justice refused to consider applications for funding that dealt with male victims.
"Changes in policy that acknowledge men are not the only perpetrators of partner violence are needed immediately," Straus said. "It is time to make the prevention and treatment effort one that is aimed at ending all family violence, including spanking children, not just violence against women."
Straus is the author or co-author of more than 200 publications, including "Beating the Devil Out Of Them: Corporal Punishment By American Parents and Its Effects on Children." More information on the International Dating Violence Study and papers reporting results are available at http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/.
Lab Mike, this site not found.. Men's Activism Wiki - A wiki dedicated to men's rights.. http://wiki.mensactivism.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
i like ur approach mens activist man. i will definetley be checkig out this independant womens forum.
see im only 21 so i have a lot to learn and i appreciate my views may appear childish or ignorant, but thats why i came here. i might as well learn something.
manhoodsblisshahahahahahaahahahaaha how amazing. i have made no personal attacks on peoples intellect because i dont judge people so harshly.
YES A FUCKING DISSERATION. AND GOING INTO MY THIRD YEAR
AND YOU'LL BE SUPRISED TO KNOW IM DUE FOR A FIRST. I MAY MAKE SILLY GRAMMATICAL ERRORS AND MY STRENGH MAY NOT BE IN GOVERNMENT STATISTICS, COMPLEX THEORIES ETC ETC. BUT I HAPPEN TO RELY ON MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT POLITICS TELLS ME.
The protests had shaken the lawyers involved, he told NZPA, and had been intimidating for their families and neighbours.
"Their children have, in some cases, been frightened and quite disturbed by the experience."