Psycho mom

[SouthernGuy]

Watch this video clip. You can't see much, but you can sure hear it. I'm not a big fan of violence, but somebody needs to choke this woman for a few seconds to shut her the f*ck up.

Of course, verbal abuse is something that only men do to women, right?

http://gorillamask.net/psychomom.shtml

What a mom!

[alien]

WOW! Women really are the better communicators.

[MrsShades]

I've seen that.  That kid was clearly not intimidated by her or afraid of violence from her (a kid who is afraid doesn't call his/her mom a bitch or keep needling her), and seemed to take a lot of pleasure in getting the angriest response he could out of her, in a passive-aggressive way.  Once she was really mad, he clicked on the tape, then sent it in as a funny video.  (I first saw this on a humor site.)  

He should probably go live with his father, as she suggested.  The father probably won't tolerate head games and will help the boy become a man, and she won't be stressed to the point of embolism.  Boys need their dads anyway, and not just as wallets.   It would ease the ongoing stress between the mom and the kid too.   I'm not excusing her flipping out but the situation isn't good for either of them as it stands.

[BRIAN]

MrsShades wrote:

I've seen that. That kid was clearly not intimidated by her or afraid of violence from her (a kid who is afraid doesn't call his/her mom a bitch or keep needling her), and seemed to take a lot of pleasure in getting the angriest response he could out of her, in a passive-aggressive way. Once she was really mad, he clicked on the tape, then sent it in as a funny video. (I first saw this on a humor site.)

I think you are off base with that analasys. It may have ended up on a humor site but I don't think he meant it to be funny. It looks to me like he has dealt with a lot of verbal abuse and irrational anger from this woman before and he was making the tape as evidence of her behavior. I don't see him playing any "head games" either he asks her to be respectful of him and ask for what she wants in a civil manor. I also think there may be some alcohol or substance abuse problems with the mom because at one point when she demands the money he says something to the effect of go ahead and do that and I will call child support and tell them what you spent it on.

[MrsShades]

Well we'll just disagree on this one then.  I'm sure you won't be the only one who doesn't share my assessment of the tape.

She also said she asked nicely and he gave her crap, then started pushing her buttons.   I wasn't excusing her however.  YMMV

[BRIAN]

Well we'll just disagree on this one then.  I'm sure you won't be the only one who doesn't share my assessment of the tape.

She also said she asked nicely and he gave her crap, then started pushing her buttons.   I wasn't excusing her however.  YMMV

We have no way of knowing what happened before the tape started. I have an idea that she had done this sort of thing before. And from her behavior on the tape I think her idea of asking nicely was probably "Gimme $50 ya lil fucker," and the only crap I heard him give her was to tell her "no". Annother point to be made is who was the male that the kid was talking to? The moms boyfriend, a neighbor? Why didn't he loan the mother $50? I am admittedly a little apt to take the kids side because I went though the same situations with my own Mother when I worked as a teenager and she spent the CS money on herself rather than paying for things it was meant for.

[GregA]

MrsShades,

When she was threatning to call the police and have him removed from the home, do you suppose she was going to tell the police that she demanded $50 from him, or do you suppose she was going to fabricate a story that he was violent?

I wonder what the Moms relationship with father was like, as all the men in this video seem to acquiesce to her demands no matter how irrational she becomes.

Also, for the entire second half of video, the boy clearly was not in control.  His voice was trembling and he was clearly near crying.

This video was also very disturbing to me for personal reasons.

[Christiane]

Mom is a nutjob.   Anybody can be a nutjob.   She needs some good meds, but even that might not solve the problem.  

She sounded to me like she was using - high on something.  

Major violent person who should be hauled away in handcuffs like any male would be who exhibited these same "symptoms".....

[MrsShades]

Actually Greg I don't think she was going to call the police at all.  She didn't, right?  It all sounded like something they'd done a million times.   I do note that in this one they cut what I originally heard/saw, which was the boy laughing about something, as he set up the recorder, along the lines of "Listen to my mom go nuts now."  If I ever come across it I'll link to it but I'm not a particularly good searcher so I don't know.

Hopefully he'll take her advice to live with his father, as it seems she doesn't know how to cope with young men or men in general.  If she had a little respect for or understanding of gender differences she might do a bit better.  Though I've known screamers and apparently screaming is a hard habit to break out of.   My mother was a screamer, though she had a husband who would use violence to back it up so unlike this fellow I couldn't afford to say anything back to her like this kid did.   Screamers seem to be almost addicted to rage; not a healthy thing, obviously.

[selkie]

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[Galt]

This isn't a case of someone's buttons being pushed, she is an unbalanced individual.  There is a huge difference between people who scream and people who act like her.  The calmer a person is sometimes sets off these individuals even more.  It is hard to explain to others this behaviour if they have not witnessed it themselves.

Right, and the kid is still a kid.  You have to think that a parent has more experience in life, knows more etc.  Not in this case - the screaming woman is also a child, and apparently the men around her just do what she screams.  Otherwise, what is their alternative?

No, just think about that a minute.  What is their alternative?

They damn well better do what she says - or they're going to get the living shit slapped out of them - and she knows that 911 is only a call away for the "final solution".

[Galt]

This is a side note --- but I thought of this with this thread.

There is a woman named Cindy Garvey (the far ex-wife of some athlete named Steve Garvey).

Two of her boyfriends/husbands have been hauled away for dometic violence.

A number of ex-boyfriends have claimed that she threatened to give herself injuries and then report them to the police.  The current guy claims that she fabricated her own injuries.

Who knows.

But apparently she's single again - start lining up, guys!!!!  But remember, I saw her first.

But whoever "wins" - I'd advise that you not piss her off in any way, shape or form.

[MrsShades]

As I said selkie, I saw this (definitely nutty) woman's tirade and it was not unfamiliar to me as my mother was the same.   But there was no way to say a word in response because then her husband would come in and whallop the hell out of me, so I had to withstand it silently.   But yes you had to play your cards carefully, because being very calm only makes it worse; you have to show that you've been properly "broken" (even if you haven't) because that's what they want.  Either that or someone to fight back.  So the 'if you haven't witnessed it yourself' part, well it falls flat here.   Those tirades you get pretty immune to, while being beat on, not so much.  

Anywho it has been a fun day, I'm glad I got a chance to participate here, but I'm on my way for now.   It's very unusual for me to get this kind of chance to read much less post so I'll see you all when I see you.   Best of luck to you all.

[selkie]

Right, and the kid is still a kid.  You have to think that a parent has more experience in life, knows more etc.  Not in this case - the screaming woman is also a child . . .

It seems people like her are forever trapped in the mind of an erratic teenager.

They damn well better do what she says - or they're going to get the living shit slapped out of them - and she knows that 911 is only a call away for the "final solution".

Getting slapped, well that's if they're lucky.  

I don't know about this woman, but from what I've seen they will do a complete 180 and be sweet as pie an hour later.  "Oh no, I wouldn't do that!"(batting eyelashes).  They are master manipulators.

[selkie]

So the 'if you haven't witnessed it yourself' part, well it falls flat here.

Mrs. Shades,

I read your previous post. That comment wasn't directed at you.

Those tirades you get pretty immune to, while being beat on, not so much.

Ya well those tirades can be pretty damn scary.