Does Christianity have something to do with Feminism?

Started by typhonblue, Jul 17, 2006, 04:57 PM

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Does Christianity have something to do with Feminism?

No
15 (68.2%)
Yes
4 (18.2%)
Maybe
3 (13.6%)

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Voting closed: Jul 17, 2006, 04:57 PM

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lkanneg

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Yes, but what does it *mean* to be the head of someone you sacrifice everything for?

To put it another way, if you were offered two options... the first option is to rule over your spouce, yet you have to sacrifice yourself to their every benefit and need. The second option is to submit, but submit to someone who sacrifices themselves for your every need and benefit...

Which would you choose?


By preference, "neither."  But if I had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first option.
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Men's Rights Activist

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NCFM doesn't represent men, it only represents itself and a tiny handful of others who agree with it.


NCFM does represent men, and as to the number of people who agree with, it it is somewhere between one and all of male humanity, depending on the issue being addressed.  One thing appears certain, "You don't speak for it."
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

ghost

MRA, I'm not against NCFM. I'm simply saying that the "average man" doesn't give a crap about it, if he knows of their existence at all.
NCFM might care about men, but men don't care about NCFM.

Somebody else

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IFeminism never struggled to get in power. It slid into it on rollerblades while chewing a bubblegum.


Amazing that such a revolution in power managed to happen without a single shot being fired.

Could you imagine this happening with any other power shift?


Yes, the Church. Took over most of Europe, had kings answering to their power all without having to raise, train and feed an army. That was one of the smoothest power shifts in history. Didn't have to have a bloodline, didn't have to have an army to conquor kingdoms. And when they did want to use force they could use the king's army.
ust because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.

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Proper tyrannies achieve their power by terror and suppressing dissent.
With feminism, suppressing dissent was never an issue as there is virtually none.
Feminism is probably the first voluntarily adopted tyranny.
Maybe that means it isn't even tyranny, if it's done with the love and consent of its "victims"?


Tyranny without dissent is no less tyranny.  

Just because the dissent is belated, just because the frog jumps from the pot yelling, ""Who turned up the heat," doesn't invalidate the dissent, or the fact that the Tyranny created it.  There is no rule that says, "Tyranny not immediately accompanied by dissent (at the time of the ascension to power) cannot be called tyranny.  Gender feminism is tyranny, pure and simple, and there is a growing opposition to it as evidenced by the activism of NCFM and many others.

As I stated, feminism insideously tries to crush dissent and free speech through all means possible, including "jack boot," "brown shirt," law enforcement, and street thug intimidation from those trained in gender feminist women's studies programs.  I've seen plenty of both. :?
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

ghost

I know that it does. But it has to resort to that rarely. Mostly, it encounters genuine heartfelt agreement from the very people it tyrannizes.

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Yes, the Church. Took over most of Europe, had kings answering to their power all without having to raise, train and feed an army. That was one of the smoothest power shifts in history. Didn't have to have a bloodline, didn't have to have an army to conquor kingdoms. And when they did want to use force they could use the king's army.


No, no, no, (unless your a Christianity basher), women's studies teaches that the Church was a Patriarchal structure and that the real underlying evil in that power structure was men.  Whoever is in power is responsible for all evil that takes place, even though all they intended and tried to do was to work for good and the betterment of human conditions.  If your a Christian basher I guess you could ultimately blame the church.  If your a male basher blame the Patriarchy.  If your a mysoginist, I guess you could even blame the sexual control women had over Kings and how they manipulated them.  Pick a prejudice.  Factors like famine, overpopulation, disease, weather patterns, etc. are irrelevant to revisionist history. :?
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Men's Rights Activist

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NCFM might care about men, but men don't care about NCFM.


You're entitled to your opinion.  I disagree.
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Somebody else

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Yes, the Church. Took over most of Europe, had kings answering to their power all without having to raise, train and feed an army. That was one of the smoothest power shifts in history. Didn't have to have a bloodline, didn't have to have an army to conquor kingdoms. And when they did want to use force they could use the king's army.


No, no, no, (unless your a Christianity basher), women's studies teaches that the Church was a Patriarchal structure and that the real underlying evil in that power structure was men.  Whoever is in power is responsible for all evil that takes place, even though all they intended and tried to do was to work for good and the betterment of human conditions.  If your a Christian basher I guess you could ultimately blame the church.  If your a male basher blame the Patriarchy.  If your a mysoginist, I guess you could even blame the sexual control women had over Kings and how they manipulated them.  Pick a prejudice.  Factors like famine, overpopulation, disease, weather patterns, etc. are irrelevant to revisionist history. :?


It's your right to think as you like, that I'm a Christianity basher.

I wasn't bashing Christianity, just pointing out that the Church did spread throughout Europe. And kings bowed to it. Fact!
ust because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.

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