Life sentence for 12-year-old rapist

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ROD MINCHIN

Source: News.Scotsman.com

A 12-YEAR-OLD boy who raped his teacher was yesterday detained for life.

The boy, one of Britain's youngest convicted rapists, attacked the woman as she sat next to him during a one-to-one teaching session.

Afterwards, he stole her car and drove it for 30 miles before dumping it.

The youngster, who is 5ft 3in tall and has severe learning difficulties, admitted at an earlier hearing raping the teacher at a special-needs centre in Co Durham in November last year, and the theft of her car.

Yesterday, at Teesside Crown Court, Mr Justice Grigson ordered the teenager, who cannot be named for legal reasons, to be detained for life.

Sentencing the boy, now 13, the judge added: "These problems are not of your own making, but it is plain that until these problems are dealt with you are very likely to commit other offences as serious as this, so the public has to be properly protected until such time as your problems have been assisted."

Mr Justice Grigson said he was prescribed by law to set a minimum sentence the defendant should serve before being considered for parole. He told the boy that he must serve at least 21 months' detention, but warned him it was likely he would serve much longer.

"You attacked a woman who had done you no harm; indeed whose only intention was helping you overcome your particular problems," he said.

He also told the defendant that the woman's mental scars would take a long time to heal.

Mr Justice Grigson added: "You know that better than anybody - you were the victim of such an attack.

"Despite your very young age, it is quite clear that you knew what you were doing."

Shaun Dodds, prosecuting, told the court that the boy, who lived in Darlington, received full-time one-to-one sessions with the teacher at a special-needs centre.

He waited until they were alone in the building before he leaped from a desk where he was working and pounced on the teacher as she sat on a sofa.

Mr Dodds said: "She describes a wild look in his face. The complainant was trying to calm him down and stop him and was asking him why he was doing this."

The court was told that after the attack the teacher, who is in her 30s, locked herself in a lavatory and telephoned the police on her mobile.

The boy, meanwhile, grabbed the keys to her car and drove at least 30 miles to Gateshead before abandoning it.

He was finally caught by police in the town.

John Evans, defending, said his client had been the victim of sexual and physical abuse from a young age.

"The court is dealing with a boy born in 1991 whose parents separated in 1993," Mr Evans said. "By January 1995, when he could have only have been three and a half years old barely, concerns were being expressed about his sexualised behaviour. Even at that age his GP expressed concern that he was under the influence of illicit substances."

After the hearing, in which the boy was also placed on the sex offenders register indefinitely, child welfare experts in Gateshead - where the boy was in care of the local authority - said they had launched an inquiry.

Simon Hart, chairman of the Gateshead Area Child Protection Committee, added: "At the time of this incident, there appears to have been nothing to indicate he was a risk to adults. A number of agencies in the region have worked intensively with this boy."


While the boy's sentence can be argued as being condign, and although the judge's 'insight' of the victim's suffering is both astute and endearing, one has to wonder why the vast majority of judges are unwilling to show the same amount of perceptiveness when dealing with women who rape children and adolescents.

Legal impunity is often the reward for women who rape children and adolescents, while the victims of such cases are told that they're *lucky* to have been violated by an older woman.

In fact, there have been cases where prepubescent boys who were raped by adult women were later to forced to pay child support to their attackers, which shows that not only does the state offer impunity to female rapists, but it punishes the boys who are victimised by them.

"In California and Kansas, minor boys statutorily raped by adult women must pay child support to the criminals who raped him. In one case, the boy was drugged before sex." - Source: Stephen Baskerville
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shard43

Reprehensible, but a mentally retarded 14 year old child who knows how to drive?

As in all cases, just imagine a story with the genders reversed...

Chris Key

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Reprehensible, but a mentally retarded 14 year old child who knows how to drive?

As in all cases, just imagine a story with the genders reversed...


He was 12-years-old at the time.
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gwallan

He had been abused?
Who abused him?
Who had custody?


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"You attacked a woman who had done you no harm; indeed whose only intention was helping you overcome your particular problems," he said.

He also told the defendant that the woman’s mental scars would take a long time to heal.

Mr Justice Grigson added: "You know that better than anybody - you were the victim of such an attack.


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John Evans, defending, said his client had been the victim of sexual and physical abuse from a young age.

"The court is dealing with a boy born in 1991 whose parents separated in 1993," Mr Evans said. "By January 1995, when he could have only have been three and a half years old barely, concerns were being expressed about his sexualised behaviour. Even at that age his GP expressed concern that he was under the influence of illicit substances."
In 95% of things 100% of people are alike. It's the other 5%, the bits that are different, that make us interesting. It's also the key to our existence, and future, as a species.

Julian

Words fail me, society has failed him and the judge is a cunt as far as I'm concerned.


devia

Having read the first article I was amazed to read the second. Thoughtful words for both sexes with a crazy bunch of common sense mixed in.


[/quote]Rape statistics viewed through a glass bottom
DANI GARAVELLI

IT WASN'T a huge news story. Police were hunting a man who attacked a woman in a taxi - or at least the victim thought it was a taxi. But she couldn't be sure. To be honest, she didn't really know how she got there. Drink had been consumed and her memory was hazy. She thought she had been helped into the car by a couple who may or may not have paid her fare. In any case, she fell asleep and woke, some time later, to find a man indecently assaulting her.

This woman is not alone: not in her drinking habits, nor in finding herself the victim of a sex attacker while senseless through alcohol. Every Saturday night, Scottish city centres are heaving with women so drunk they have little hope of finding their way to the nearest taxi rank; women with bare midriffs sprawled out on benches; women who are easy prey for sex attackers.


Then there are the less clear-cut cases: women who wake up after a drunken night to find they have had sex with someone they met, but cannot recall having consented to it. Their experience, in part, explains not only why the number of rape allegations is rising at a frightening rate across the country, but also, arguably, why the number of successful prosecutions remains resolutely low. In Scotland last year, only 39 of 900 reported rapes - less than 5% - resulted in convictions.

No-one doubts the current situation is unacceptable. But to what degree are these women being failed by the judicial system, and to what degree by a culture that promotes binge drinking and the objectification of women? More contentiously, should there be any onus on women to try to avoid placing themselves in risky situations where sex attacks are more likely?

Tony Blair believes the answer is to afford drunk women more legal protection. Last week, he announced proposals to change the law so a woman who was drunk, but still conscious, could be deemed incapable of giving meaningful consent to sex. You can see what he's getting at. Yet in doing so, he has managed to come up with a proposal that is impractical, potentially discriminatory to men, and offensive to a generation of women who, in any other context, would sneer at the suggestion they were incapable of making their feelings understood.

It also seems to be desperately out of touch with social mores since, let's face it, the vast majority of sexual encounters between young people take place under the influence of alcohol. Who does the Prime Minister think is going to determine at which precise point in the descent into inebriation the capacity to consent is lost? And how can a jury be expected to determine the degree of drunkenness experienced by a woman who struggles to recall events herself.

Those are the logistical problems, but there are also ethical ones. In cases where both parties have drunk to excess, for example, why should the law provide for the fact the woman might be incapable of giving meaningful consent, but not for the fact that the man might be incapable of making a judgment on her capacity? And isn't it possible to conceive of a situation where a woman might carry out a sex act on a man who was too drunk to say No? The trouble with engaging in a debate on rape is that it really is the last taboo - just as, until recently, any criticism of multiculturalism left you open to accusations of racism.

So now, questioning whether or not women should exercise more self-control opens you up to accusations of misogyny.

No-one presumes crime prevention officers who tell homeowners how to protect their property are condoning burglary. Yet any suggestion that women should make more effort to protect themselves is seen as tantamount to claiming that those who do not are asking for it.

Not long ago, Neil Richardson, assistant chief constable of Lothian and Borders Police, found himself so maligned when he told this newspaper drink made women more likely to be targeted by sex attackers, and less able to defend themselves.

Trying to encourage women to take those statistics on board is not misogynistic but pragmatic. There are men out there who prey on vulnerable women. Rape - like drug dealing and robbery - is a fact of life that no degree of moral outrage is likely to alter. While our justice system should underline the rights of women to be safe, we do them no favours if our laws effectively endorse reckless behaviour.

Nor do we advance the cause of women by protecting the identity of those who make spurious allegations of rape against innocent men. If rape is a crime that provokes an unparalleled degree of revulsion from the public, then falsely and maliciously accusing someone of such a crime is a heinous act that should attract an appropriate punishment.

Lord Campbell-Savours, who last week used parliamentary privilege to name a woman whose false allegations led to an innocent man being jailed, was criticised by anti-rape campaigners who accused the system of being "institutionally sexist". But what is more sexist than a system that jails men for rape, but allows those who make repeated, false accusations to go not only unpunished but unidentified? Far from discouraging victims to go to court, the waiving of anonymity for such women could actually increase conviction rates, since juries might be more inclined to believe accusers if they knew those making false claims risked being exposed as liars.

But tinkering with the law will only ever increase the number of successful prosecutions. It won't stop rape happening. To do that, we have to address the way women are viewed by men. And yes, sometimes even the way women view themselves.

We must also recognise the part binge drinking plays in setting the scene for some rapes. Of course, women have the undisputed right to wear and drink what they want without being raped.

But if we truly want to protect women, we need to strike a balance between reiterating that rape is wrong in absolutely every circumstance, and forcing them to face up to stark, statistical reality.

Julian

I thought it was a pretty balanced article until it struck me that there are probably a fair few women out there who just as a predatory rapist would do, find an innocent victim and entice them to commit rape in the eyes of the law when all the guy thought was that he had "struck lucky".

Chris Key

The consumption of an intoxicant is both problematic and hazardous to one's safety and health, as substances of this nature impair the consumer's neurological system and cognitive ability.  Alcohol is an intoxicant, therefore anyone who consumes the substance should 'think' about the consequences of drinking in public.  If a person is unwilling to 'think' about the consequences of drinking heavily in public, then they're more or less placing themselves in a precarious position where they can be preyed upon by sexual predators, savages and murderers.

An adult is responsible for every action they choose to perform, therefore if a woman decides to consume an excessive amount of alcohol, then she should take accountability for the precarious position she is placing herself within.

A child can be forgiven for failing to understand that all of their actions have consequences, however an adult cannot, as the reasoning abilities of the later are superior to those of the former.  

Very few persons show any sympathy towards men alcoholic men - most people look at such men with disgust - therefore why should anyone care about a woman who consumes an excessive amount of alcohol while she is at a nightclub?
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Somebody else

So this mentally disabled 12-year-old jumped on an adult woman and managed to get her clothes off, his clothes off and penetrate her vagina with his penis all the while she was fighting him off and trying to prevent him from achieving this goal?

What kind of weapon did he have?
ust because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.

MAUS

"What kind of weapon did he have?"   a penis

Somebody else

Without a weapon to threaten her life with, or beating her into unconsciousness, which the article didn't even hint at, I just do not see how this is possible.
ust because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.

MAUS

A penis is a magic wand.

A penis is the key to the city which causes all of the portals of privilage to swing open.

A penis is the snake which can charm any bird.

Exposing it in public brings consequences more serious than drawing a gun.

Never underestimate it's power.

jaketk

Something is entirely off with this article. Perhaps this particular article left out details. Without information about the victim, I have a hard time believing an adult woman was restrained by a 5'3" 12-year-old boy and raped while struggling. And I say that while living with children around that age who are considered high-risk kids by the system. Given the boy's mental deficiencies, I am seriously concerned with whether or not the assault happened as described. I do not doubt that it is possible, but in cases where people claim children have violently raped adult women, especially by themselves, I am hesitant to believe the victim is not the perp.

Somebody else

Without a life-threatening weapon or being unconscious, I DO doubt it is possible.

Men with a girlfriend or wife, try this little experiment (obviously explain it and clear it with said wife or girlfriend first) - see if you can get her pants and underwear off AND yours AND get even close to getting your penis inside her with her trying to prevent you from doing it.

It's not going to happen.

Now imagine a 12-year-old boy trying that.
ust because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.

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