Outline For A Plan Of Action for MRA Groups

Started by Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum, Mar 30, 2007, 02:58 PM

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Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum

I am starting this thread on the advice of Dr. E.  This is a very rough draft that I worked on this afternoon as a starting point.  I hope that anyone who is interested will add their thoughts and comments so we can all help the MRA causes move forward.

Here is my first draft: (sorry it is hard to read; the formatting was lost when I pasted the text)

Outline For A Plan Of Action For MRA Groups - [Draft 1]


1.)   Gather representatives from different MRA and MRA affiliated groups and persons.  A specialized online forum would be the best place to begin.
a.   Each representative should make then submit a comprehensive list of what they believe to be MRA issues.  Include all issues large and small.  Each representative should order their list by priority.
i.   Compile the different lists into a master list
ii.   Review master list for additional ideas than can be included.
b.   Prioritize the issues.  For example: long vs. short term goals, priorities that should be listed as urgent (i.e. custody & men's' health) and by those most likely to sway public opinion.
c.   Create and develop a business plan.

2.)   Define how the committee/group/forum will be named, formed and run.
a.   Will this group run formally using Roberts' Rules of Order, informally, or have other semi-formal procedures that will be agreed upon?
b.   Define voting procedures (at a minimum)
i.   Simple majority to pass (greater than 50% vote) vs. super majority to pass (generally 2/3 or vote)
ii.   Define how to break a tied vote.
iii.   Losing parties in a vote agree to back the majority.
c.   Tax free organization 501(3)c?
d.   Will this be a committee that runs independently from each of the MRA groups?  Will the individual MRA groups fall under this committee to create a large over-all organization?

3.)   Finances
a.   Treasury and Treasurer
i.   How will control and accounting of the money be handled?
1.   Trust fund? Standard bank account?
a.   Who and how many people will have access?
b.   1, 2 or more people require to authorize and sign checks?
2.   Who and how will supply purchasing be handled?
b.   Fund raising efforts
i.   Will each individual MRA group contribute financial resources?
1.   Fixed percentage or other to be determined amount?
2.   Define what kind of fund raising efforts to use.
a.   Online donations
b.   Community fund raising such a car wash
c.   Ask family friendly groups and churches

4.)   Goals
a.   Plan and define goals and how to effectively approach each goal.
b.   How will a goal be defined as being completed?
c.   How much flexibility to pursue the goal?
d.   Flexibility to change goals if current events dictate (i.e. a father makes the national headlines attracting attention to another goal on our list.)
e.   Will we use PAC and/or lobbyists?

5.)   Alliances with non MRA groups.
a.   Can we align with non MRA groups that can help our cause?  Should we even consider this?
i.   Family friendly religious groups
ii.   Corporations and businesses

The Biscuit Queen

I like the way you are thinking.

Finances, I would think some way of diverting money but not having much for the "master group" is the way to go. Sort of like United Way was at first, where all they were responsible for was the fundraising, and money was dispensed out to the charities.

I think you will find a few issues most everyone will agree with (shared parenting, men's dv shelters, prostate cancer research funding, etc) Then there will be those issues which tend to be divisive, like abortion, circumcision, etc.  I would really concentrate on the issues which are not divisive.

I love the common forum for leaders of groups. It is an idea I have thought about, but did not know how to impliment.

I think the group should be formal. It is easier to become less formal if need be than to try to become more formal. Set things up very specifically, then you do not have problems later.

I take it you are thinking NOW for men?



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Mar 30, 2007, 04:37 PM Last Edit: Mar 30, 2007, 05:58 PM by johndias
I think that the situation men are in today is due in large part to our ever-lessening influence over the next generation, and especially the next generation of fathers.  When men embrace the breadwinner role by reflex (even in a time when so many women have re-entered the workforce, able to financially contribute far more to the family than before) -- when men take this role, they lose their bond with their kids.  In divorce, this gulf between fathers and kids widens drastically.  Political ideologues with influence in state legislatures consider a reform of family law to be untouchable politically, lest they offend the female populace.  Men are socialized to observe the situation from this point of view -- the view that is friendly to feminism -- due to the absence of fathers in their lives!  And on it goes, each generation even more distant from their fathers than the last.

To put it simply, mens' rights are fathers' rights -- even if you're not a father.  When you fight for equal parenting time, family law reform and so on, you are planting a seed for the men's movement.  The next generation will be far more connected with their fathers, and see men in a far more positive light than today.  The Misandry Generation is an outgrowth of the divorce phenomenon, where fathers are pushed to the periphery of social life (and with fathers, the humanity of men itself).

Want political reform?  Stop thinking that you'll achieve anything by getting disjointed and hypercompetitive MRAs to come together and pool their resources for some generalized movement.  The broad-based "men's movement" is better at elucidating a message -- which is now easier than ever due to the Internet; but the "men's movement" is simply too weak for broad-based political action.  But political action is what's needed, and so I propose a far more focused effort than a broad-based men's movement.  Focus on the fathers movement.  Focus on planting the next generation of people who reject misandry, a generation who will more often love their fathers, look up to men, and care about the interests of men just as they care about the interests of mothers and women.

To that end, I propose focusing the lion's share of our efforts on Father 4 Justice, which is making major inroads in the United States.  The U.S. organization has a tax status that permits it to engage in political lobbying, which I have also highlighted in a previous post as a dire need for our movement.  It is well established as an organization, and focused on a single issue.  Success is much more likely because of that targeted focus.

Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum

Biscuit Queen: Thank you for your input.  No I am not thinking along the lines of a NOW for men.  I don't think all of the strong individuals in the MRA groups could stomach such a hierarchical structure.  I am thinking on the lines of a Federation/Union (think E.U.).  This is where each group can keep their individual identity (if they wish) and have a central organization that can use the combined power and money to focus on issues that are common to us all.

John Dias:   I like Fathers 4 Justice, and they sure know how to get media attention!  However I believe their single-issue stance is their weakness.  In my experience, people tend to tune-out when they tire of hearing the same thing repeated over and over again.  Now I do believe this is or should be the number one issue for MRA's.  I am also one of the many men who lost contact with my child due to many of the same reasons listed on this and many other websites.  At the time I didn't know what PAS was, but my former spouse could be the poster child.  I know exactly what happens when women interfere with custody arrangements and the lengths they will go to too deny your visitation rights.

I think we should pick 2 to 4 main issues to push to the forefront in a concerted & combined effort to educate the public, the judiciary and our legislatures.

Of course I really would like for you and anyone else to continue to contribute and speak your mind!

Thank you!

stands2p

I think a huge issue is the image problem of Father's/Men's rights groups. 
An obvious source of this problem is efforts by feminist groups to portray MRA's as negatively as possible.  Any new organization should start by bending over backwards to present a positive image.  Men's strength can be frightening to people but also comforting.  Charity work such as repairing homes for single fathers would be a great way to present the organization.

Another problem is that younger men and men who have never experienced the horrors of the family law system don't want to hear about older men's experiences until it is too late.  Any new organization should have a strong "outreach" component to address young men's organizations such as church youth groups, troubled teens organizations, schools, sports teams etc.  The message should be that young men be careful in their relationships to avoid unplanned pregnancies and to be well informed about laws surrounding marriage or cohabitation.  Young men in "adversarial" relationships with their baby's mother should be taught the importance of remaining calm and having witnesses present to avoid accusations of intimidation, abuse or violence.

An "Older Brothers" program, similar to the existing "Big Brothers" program for young men dealing with premature reproduction syndrome could really help young men dealing with financial burdens, feelings of grief at a lost future, disappointed parents, being barred from the happy experience of a new baby and being treated like a criminal by someone they thought they loved.  These young brothers deserve the guidance and wisdom that is no longer available in a feminized society.

I also think it would be a great idea to establish a network of private shelters (our own homes) for men who want to get themselves and their kids away from an abusive wife or girlfriend (we will die waiting for the gov't to do this.)  This would have to be done in strict accordance with all local laws.  A man in need would have to call for a referral and then be given contact information for a sponsor who could pick up the fellow and his kids and bring them to his home for a few days until he could make more permanent arrangements.  The homeowner would file for a immediate restraining order against the wife or girlfriend at the commencement of the arrangment and prevent harrassing contact.  There is no choice but to do this through the existing public shelter infrastructure.  We must present this in a way that does not cost the community a dime and assumes our own liability.  It won't be a level playing field, time to cowboy up.

As we begin to make progress, we must brace ourselves for the obvious response.  We will be accused of terrible crimes and our reputations will be attacked.  To represent any organization, we must make our actions exemplary and above reproach at all times.  Let the little battles go in order to win the larger war.  Don't lose your temper; stay in control.

These are just a few ideas.  I look forward to discussing this further and reading more ideas.
The Lord works in strange ways; and with strange people.

The Biscuit Queen

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I also think it would be a great idea to establish a network of private shelters (our own homes) for men who want to get themselves and their kids away from an abusive wife or girlfriend (we will die waiting for the gov't to do this.)  This would have to be done in strict accordance with all local laws.  A man in need would have to call for a referral and then be given contact information for a sponsor who could pick up the fellow and his kids and bring them to his home for a few days until he could make more permanent arrangements.  The homeowner would file for a immediate restraining order against the wife or girlfriend at the commencement of the arrangment and prevent harrassing contact.  There is no choice but to do this through the existing public shelter infrastructure.  We must present this in a way that does not cost the community a dime and assumes our own liability.  It won't be a level playing field, time to cowboy up.


I have been thinking this for a long time. This is a PHENOMINAL idea. We have a 4000 sq ft house, a spare room with a large bed set up (and potential room for smaller beds), and kids toys of all ages.
I have been thinking that we could indeed offer protection to a man and his kids who are being terrorized by a violent wife. And God help the hussy who thinks she could come into MY home and start crap! Quite frankly, to be fair, if there were not so many women's shelters I would feel the same about abused women. People should not live in fear in their homes.

I have also thought of doing supervised visitation for falsely accused men here, so they could feel at home visiting their kids without feeling like they were criminals, and would not have to pay $300 per visit to see thier kids.  There are insurance programs available from the state to cover liability, I think. I would have to research that more.

These sorts of outreach programs would indeed put a positive spin on the issues.

I would like to start a lecture series on college campuses on men's sexual issues, such as false allegation, the new proposed laws about making drunk women unable to legally consent, and reproductive choices or lack there of. These boys need our help.

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As we begin to make progress, we must brace ourselves for the obvious response.  We will be accused of terrible crimes and our reputations will be attacked.  To represent any organization, we must make our actions exemplary and above reproach at all times.  Let the little battles go in order to win the larger war.  Don't lose your temper; stay in control.


This is key. While feminists can afford to get hysterical, be hypocritical, commit crimes and get off, we cannot. We must put on the good face and put only our best foot forward. We must go along with the double standard of behavioral expectations in order to get our message across. That is part of picking our battles.

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outdoors

 thanx! "ffff" i appreciate yur out line and hope to use it in the future for reference

dr e


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Where are the 'Media & Public Awareness' campaigns to precede and attract attention to the conference?


FFFF - This was the original question and unless I missed something I don't see it being addressed.  This was your concern about the conference this summer and I would be curious to hear what you think we should do. 
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

The Biscuit Queen

What is being done now?

Just so we know where we are starting from.
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