CRISPE, F4J, & NCFMLA Stage Protest At Downtown Los Angeles Courthouse

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May 04, 2007, 10:19 PM Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 11:14 AM by Men's Rights Activist
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CRISPE, F4J, & NCFMLA Stage Protest At Downtown Los Angeles Courthouse

Members of Father's and men's rights groups (CRISPE, F4J, and NCFMLA) protested today outside the  downtown, Los Angeles County Municipal Courthouse, that was hearing matters in the Baldwin-Basinger visitation dispute.

http://www.californiamenscenters.org/crispe.html

http://www.f4j.us/index.php?id=ca

http://www.ncfmla.org/

The protestors came from as far away as Sacramento and San Diego for a chance to express their opinions on "equal patenting" and other custody and visitation issues.



Approximately 25 to 30 protestors were present, although it was apparently difficult for the news media to determine crowd size. Some protestors walked around over a wide area, while a group of about twelve protested steadily in front of the West entrance to the L. A. County Municipal Court building at 110 N. Grand (near the intersection of Grand and 1 st. Street). Others protested across the street to the West and a few protested at the entrance were Kim Basinger is alleged to have entered the courthouse.

http://www.9news.com/life/entertainment/article.aspx?storyid=69321

While Associated Press (above) reported only "about a dozen people" in attendance, Reuters (below) was much close to the actual number, reporting:

http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSN0434898020070504?pageNumber=2

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"about two dozen men, many of them divorced, noncustodial fathers, staged a demonstration in support of Baldwin, carrying signs with such slogans as "Parental alienation is child abuse" and "Los Angeles County abuses fathers.'"


According to sources closely associated with the demonstration, 25 people were in attendance (mostly concerned men, but also a significant number of concerned women).









In just a quick Google search of the web, I noticed stories containing the Reuters and Associated Press snippets, appearing in states around America from New Hampshire to Colorado, and around the world from Canada, to Scotland, to India. By early evening, all mention of protestors had disappeared from the AP stories I was finding on the web, although Reuters still carried mention of the protestors in its coverage.

The protest lasted from 6:45 A.M. to 11 A.M. Reports came in during the protest that video of the protest was airing on local news stations. When I got home shortly before Noon, I turned on the news and was able to videotape a news report about the Baldwin-Basinger visitation dispute, that showed: protestors, the mobile red white and blue protest sign, and a short interview with a "parents rights advocate." By the time the 5 o'clock news rolled around the Basinger-Baldwin visitation dispute was still making all the local news channels, but the entire portion showing the "equal parenting "protest was edited out.

While assembling this report, I listened to different TV news sources in the background to see if there may yet be some coverage of all the caring parents I saw today, working as a force for good. Alas, I heard nothing of those parents struggling to proactively further loving ties between parents and children.

Instead of responsible news coverage of the good I saw today, I heard different media outlets carry malevolent and sensationalistic news, of another Hollywood Actor allegedly being videotaped in a drunken stupor by his 16 year old daughter. Journalistic standards that determine what constitutes news, appear to me to be severely lacking any kind of moral or ethical balance, and are thereby an unbalanced reporting of what truly constitutes a truthful reflection of news worthy of reporting.

The "media beast" is indeed a ravenous beast. The media beast appears to be as much, or more, concerned with molding societies perception of what it thinks news is, as it is concerned with fairly conveying a true and balanced reflection of what actually is the news.

CRISPE, F4J, and NCFMLA are certainly working hard to change that as it regards issues of parenting (and other Father's/men's issues) in America.

Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Peter

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2108

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It has been documented countless times that journalists in Denmark (and many other countries) to a very large degree vote for parties to the left of the center. But a totally different picture emerges when looking at their non-professional colleagues in cyberspace. The weekly Mandag Morgen has published a survey which labels 19 out of the 20 most visited Danish political bloggers as conservative or leaning towards the political Right.


I strongly recommend to get rid of any newspaper subscriptions and the television also, especially in the countries where you have to pay a licence.

It is no accident that Education and Journalism is full of Socialists. They went there, especially in the 1970's, on purpose to spread their propaganda.
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JackBauersPowerHour

Well I respect anyone who is willing to protest for what they believe in, especially if they are willing to use their own time and expense to see it done.

But I have to question the overrall impact of the tactics. It's not a big surprise that the news media shut out the MRAs. Women would complain to advertisers, advertisers will complain to the station and that's that.

There are simply not enough MRAs out there to make public protests a viable form of "fighting back"

I've discussed two strategies before that I think will work

1) A feature film/documentary ala Super Size Me/Roger And Me

2) Economic squeeze - just make it very costly for anyone to be pro feminist

and here's the last

3) Find a way to get rich and powerful people hammered in a divorce. Right now, rich and powerful people have the means, connections and resources to avoid the pitfalls of divorce that the average person faces. Spielberg gets divorced, he loses 100 million. Ok that sucks , but he's super rich anyway. Now if you made it so Amy Irving could take 90 percent of everything he owned and he could never see his kids, then you have a whole new ballgame.

Does anyone remember when MADD started. No one important cared for a long time. Until the kids of the rich and elite and powerful got pasted on the road too. No one cares when Sally, the average high school girl gets plastered on the road. But when a Congressman's niece gets her head smashed by a truck into a bloody pulp, then you see action. When the mayor's son get crippled and has to pee in a diaper the rest of his life, then you see action. If it was just poor kids dying, I assure you, the way we see drunk driving penalties would be way different.

When rich and powerful men are destroyed to the point where their wealth and power mean nothing in the face of divorce, then you will wholesale changes.

See  I think people think the strategy is to make things better for men in general. But that's not gonna help. Because the system bleeds men just enough where they won't revolt enmasse. It's like conditioning good slaves. You give them enough to get by, but not enough to get ahead.

MRAs need to make the system worse. I know that sounds crazy. But if you make the system so draconian that people would rather leave the country than be a divorced man in America, then you will see some real changes. The way things work now is "brutal" it is not however "merciless" Unfortuntely for MRAs to win this fight, with their limited numbers, the tactics must be more creative.

Things have to worse before things get better. It's the only way.

JBPH

MAUS

Get this straight folks, I was around when the last of the honest to God journalists were being driven into retirement by political gauleiters, and that was decades ago.

THE MEDIA IS THE ENEMY, ABANDON ALL HOPE OF FAIR COVERAGE FROM THEM.

In fact in Canada, Status of Womwn was pretty much invented by the CBC, and I have been at war with their news service for years.

Fathers for Justice staged a march in London with an estimated 50,000 support that tied up traffic for hours...the BBC moved Heaven and Earth to keep that a secret and it only got cursory coverage in the tabloids.

What is the counter measure? Find out who is supporting the media by purchasing advertising space and undermine the credibility of the media at sponsor level....the media KNOW they are corrupt and not only do they not give a shit about being corrupt...they think it is a good thing.

blackmanxxx

Good  luck  to  them  !!!!   Keep  up  the  good  fight  !!!!

Chastity


http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2108

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It has been documented countless times that journalists in Denmark (and many other countries) to a very large degree vote for parties to the left of the center. But a totally different picture emerges when looking at their non-professional colleagues in cyberspace. The weekly Mandag Morgen has published a survey which labels 19 out of the 20 most visited Danish political bloggers as conservative or leaning towards the political Right.


I strongly recommend to get rid of any newspaper subscriptions and the television also, especially in the countries where you have to pay a licence.

It is no accident that Education and Journalism is full of Socialists. They went there, especially in the 1970's, on purpose to spread their propaganda.

No way!

That does it: No more of the free newspapers for me!
Well, at least they are still good for a laugh. I never trusted them anyway.
And TV? Never planned on getting one.
Karma is not a b*tch, it is a man with a gun.

Men's Rights Activist

Here is a link to CBS local news coverage of the story, showing part of the protest, and one of the protestors briefly speaking.

http://www.cbs2.com/video/[email protected]
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Mr. X

And you would think if we live in an oppressive patriarchy this would have been on every major news website and broadcast and the grand, glorious fight against female oppression. Then again, if this were a true patriarchy, men wouldn't have to fight for their rights in court. Kind of Ironic hmmmm.
Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

Peter

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May 06, 2007, 01:27 AM Last Edit: May 06, 2007, 02:03 PM by Peter
But I have to question the overrall impact of the tactics.
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MRAs need to make the system worse. I know that sounds crazy. But if you make the system so draconian that people would rather leave the country than be a divorced man in America, then you will see some real changes. The way things work now is "brutal" it is not however "merciless" Unfortuntely for MRAs to win this fight, with their limited numbers, the tactics must be more creative.

Things have to worse before things get better. It's the only way.

JBPH


This is not an alien thought to me. Is is better to improve things or make them worse? Should we forget what we are doing, surrender? There is a long list of consequences if men give up. Unlimited immigration is what comes on the top of my list. It will be hard, cruel and expensive to fix.

At least we will be highly ineffective, if half of us makes thing better, the other half worse. Maybe we should decide?

In the end, I find it disgusting to destroy my country in order "build 'something' new". That is what the Left is busy doing.
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The Biscuit Queen

I think this was awesome. You guys ROCK!
he Biscuit Queen
www.thebiscuitqueen.blogspot.com

There are always two extremes....the truth lies in the middle.

Men's Rights Activist

Thanks TBQ.  We're definitely going to try and build on it.
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

dr e

Excellent stuff MRA.  It looks like you are building in numbers.  This is the name of the game.  When we can get enough people out and protesting we will have much more clout.  As of now too many are sitting on their butts not knowing that they can make a difference.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

Men's Rights Activist

I just found this AP video of last Friday's protest on the F4J web site.  I'm very glad to see they got some press too.

http://www.fathers-4-justice.us/
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

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