How Ordinary Men Feel About The Men's Movement

[blackmanxxx]

I   just   had  an   encounter   with  a   male  feminist   on   the   train   today.   Mere  minutes  ago.


Picture  this  :   I'm  on  the   MBTA  with   my   laptop,    reading  some  stories   online   before  going  to  school.     In   my  backpack,    I  have   flyers   about    Male   Victims  of   Domestic   Abuse  and      The   Boys    Project. 


Sitting   near   me   is  a   tall   young  man with   piercings    and  a  skateboard.   He  seems  college-age  if  a  day.   I   hand   him  a   flyer    filled  with   information  which  could  verily   help   any   man   in   America.     He   reads  them,  scoffs  and  rather   proudly   tells  me   about   his    belief   in  the    superiority  of  women   over   men,   and  that  he   likes  the  way   things   have   been   going   lately  for   men   everywhere.  He  thinks    misandry  is  exactly  what   men   deserve.



If  that's   not   a   feminist,    I  don't   know  what   is.   The  scary   part    ?   He  was   MALE   and   seemed  to  believe  what   he  was  saying.


I   steel   myself    when   dealing  with   man-bashing  women    I   encounter   almost  daily.   


For  some  reason,   Male   Feminists    who   agree  with   the    Misandrists     scare me  even    more.

What  gives   ?




He  was  so  unlike  an   older  man  I  ran   into   at   the   train  station  yesterday.   I  gave  the  man  a  flyer  and  he  not  only  read  it,  he  liked  it.    He   congratulated  me  for  doing  the  right  thing   and  spreading  the  word   about   Men's   Issues.    He  told  me   not  to  get  discouraged.


His  name  was   Tony,   a    Boston   area   black  man  in   his   late  forties,  a  father  of  four   who   told  me  he  believes  in  teaching  youngsters  of  both  sexes   to respect  themselves,  achieving  great  things  and  staying  positive.


These   were   both   men   living  in  New   England.    Exposed  to  the  same   brand  of  news,  ect.   


Why  the  difference  ?

[bachelor tom]

"He   reads  them,  scoffs  and  rather   proudly   tells  me   about   his    belief   in  the    superiority  of  women   over   men,   and  that  he   likes  the  way   things   have   been   going   lately  for   men   everywhere.  He  thinks    misandry  is  exactly  what   men   deserve."

how much do young people really understand about how the world works? I didn't know much at his age (while thinking I knew everything lol)

[dr e]

This is yet another reason why we need to get a better idea of healthy masculinity in the public domain. 

Maybe you could have asked him if he would be willing to be your slave?  If not you I bet if you have a female relative he might be more inclined.

[stands2p]

This young putz is our target demographic.

He says men are getting what they deserve but what he really means is that other men are getting what they deserve.  He himself has probably not felt inconvenienced at all by sexism against men (and I only say probably from a sense of rhetorical obligation.)

At some point, he will have a personal experience with misandry and he won't like it one bit and he will remember that pamphlet he scoffed at.

I teach a young men's class at my church and I am always looking for good ways to approach issues of dating and paternity and accusations of sex crimes to these naive young pups.  These lads are at the mercy of their hormones and are totally bewitched by the young women.  I'd like to see a pamphlet like this:

Hey kid, heard of VAWA?

Young men need to know that any time they have sex:
-You can be accused of a crime and treated as guilty without process.
-You can be notified via third party that you are liable for child support without ever knowing about the pregnancy.
-If a woman feels you have done something wrong, your rights can be infringed without recourse (restraining order, mandatory "classes" etc.)


Young men need to be warned not to stick their junk in a noose and they need to stop enabling the women-as-victims crowd in the interest of getting laid.

[blackmanxxx]

The  scary  part  is....he  was  so  sure  of  himself.  I  find  male  feminists  scarier  than   man-hating  females.  If  a  woman  hates   men,  I'm  not  really  surprised.  Hell,  I've  come  to  expect  it.   But  seeing  men  who  hate  the  male   sex,  well....it  scares  me  in  a way  you  can't   fathom. I   guess  deep  down  I  think  that  if  most  men  aren't   militant  about  our  cause,  they're  at  least   not   CONSCIOUSLY   against  us.

[Mr. X]

The young guy will probably do anything to gain the acceptance of women. Try explaining it from that point of view that he does not need women's validation to prove he's a man. Women will not like him for selling out himself and other men.

[Nillerz]

Young punks and their "skating boards"...

[Libertariandadd]

He   reads  them,  scoffs  and  rather   proudly   tells  me   about   his    belief   in  the    superiority  of  women   over   men,   and  that  he   likes  the  way   things   have   been   going   lately  for   men   everywhere.  He  thinks    misandry  is  exactly  what   men   deserve.

He'll possibly change his tune when he winds up in family court someday. (I only say possibly since sometimes people can be gluttons for punishment.)

[Mr. X]

Maybe one other thing you can ask him is if he had a son, would he sell his son out to repay some supposed debt to women?

[LSBeene]

This is LSBeene,

I was little different (to say INdifferent) to men's issue until the day I was falsely accused of rape.  THEN all those "friends" I had who were feminists were NOwhere to be found.

One way or the other, be it happening to him or to a close friend, he'll see how the "system" is set up.

Steven

[Mr. X]

This is LSBeene,

I was little different (to say INdifferent) to men's issue until the day I was falsely accused of rape.  THEN all those "friends" I had who were feminists were NOwhere to be found.

One way or the other, be it happening to him or to a close friend, he'll see how the "system" is set up.

Steven

Yes, just ask him if any of those girls he's helping have ever helped him. How much are those angel wings worth.

[sethay]

"He   reads  them,  scoffs  and  rather   proudly   tells  me   about   his    belief   in  the    superiority  of  women   over   men,   and  that  he   likes  the  way   things   have   been   going   lately  for   men   everywhere.  He  thinks    misandry  is  exactly  what   men   deserve."

how much do young people really understand about how the world works? I didn't know much at his age (while thinking I knew everything lol)

I don't really think it is appropriate to group together young people and say that they understand any less about the world then an older person. 

Yes, older people have been around longer and have had more experiences.  However, this does not mean they understand things any better.  Many older people just get more and more fixated on an incorrect "understanding" of how the world works, while younger people have a clearer and less diluted view of the world.

Sorry for posting off topic, I just hate when groups of people are unjustly insulted.

[shiva]

Why  the  difference  ?

It's already been said, but I agree: age. There's many other factors but that's a big one. No offense to sethay but these most recent generations have nothing on the older ones, from my experience. There's always that age of feeling invincible, thinking you know everything, and you'll only see it once you're past it; but most older people were far more capable of independent thought, IMO. Products of the era that spawned them, I think. I talk with people at least 25 years older than myself, I learn; I talk with people my own age, and it's a static intellectual environment. They don't get me, I don't get them, vastly different interests and backgrounds mean there's no common ground. Boring. Brainwashed kinds of boring.   

[taylortailwinds]

I was little different (to say INdifferent) to men's issue until the day I was falsely accused of rape.  THEN all those "friends" I had who were feminists were NOwhere to be found.

did you ever confront them about that?

[TheManOnTheStreet]

I don't really think it is appropriate to group together young people and say that they understand any less about the world then an older person. 

Yes, older people have been around longer and have had more experiences.  However, this does not mean they understand things any better.  Many older people just get more and more fixated on an incorrect "understanding" of how the world works, while younger people have a clearer and less diluted view of the world.

Color me a simpleton but didn't you just do what you claim to detest?  You lumped all "older people" into a group and then claimed that they are "fixated on an incorrect understanding..."?  Then go on to prop up "younger people" as more astute and less diluted....

But I digress... as per my norm.

Simply put, "older people" have had experience and education to mold and support their views of the world.  Comes with time for the most part.  A father that has been ripped from the arms of his children will of course have a better understanding of the "world of divorce" and the "world of PAS" than most... and that includes "younger people".

I believe Freud would classify your opinion as "an issue with authority"...

TMOTS