Good news about tweens and Paris

Started by devia, Jun 08, 2007, 07:22 AM

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devia

I know that's an odd title, but Paris getting out of jail reminded me of an article I read the The Times, and that article reminded me of one of the reasons why I believe my kids turned out as darn good as they are.

In a nut shell the article was about preteen girls being very much in the know regarding the celebrity goings on of our most outlandish celebritites. They interviewed a bunch of them and not one wasn't disgusted by them. When asked who they admired not one answered with a "shank" (although I'd rather use the phrase "clueless idiot who needs serious help"). Tops of their lists were celebrities who are taking on and getting know for taking on humanitarian efforts.

So this got me to thinking about my own familes history, starting with my grandfather. My granduncle was Thomas Hicks (go ahead and google the name with the Olumpics if you so wish), joined at the hip my grandfather was even more of a maverick, goldminer, inventor, and all around drunken crazy happy fool.

My dads probaly the most careful conservative (though he has socialist leanings having been almost starved to death during the depression) person you'd ever meet. He's so law abiding it took us a couple of years for him to convice him he wasn't breaking the law by taping t.v with his VCR. Him and mom married in their mid 30's and they were the only people each other had dated.

Then me, well I took from my dad the never stealing, being respectful of your elders thing but I certainly rebeled any other way I could. (I also got from him being longwinded regarding story telling). As I've said before my brother who was also adopted and who has alchol syndrome got into prositution as a youth and I followed him quickly behind. Our upperclass white bred society we were joined to didn't stop us from rebeling against every part of that. Pretty much anything a neo-conservative is against we took part in. Ten years in the leather community for myself with the pictures to prove it.

So why did my kids turn out ok, and dare I say it conservative?

Part of it would be simple rebellion. My dad rebelled from his dad by being the opposite of him, I rebelled by being the opposite of my dad, my kids rebelled against me by being conservative etc.

But I think my kids also had a leg up, I think this because my brothers kid didn't turn out the same way as mine. His kid is a stupid teen mom whose lucky enough that the dad's parents are ethnic and taking care of the baby, she'll be lucky to finish highschool. (not to say I did, I just also got a work ethic from my dad)

I think the leg up my kids had was the introduction of my foster daughter. Ten or so years older then they were, and heavily involved with gangs and prositution when my kids were just starting their tweens they watched Wendy make huge mistakes in her life without the abilty to join in. It seems they procesed the information and decided they didn't want to be like her. They've also watched while she put herself back together. Hence I have two girls who the last thing they'd want is to go through what she went though, their able to make clear moral choices because they know the outcome of both.

So in conclusion I do believe that the Paris Hiltons of the world may be a positive role model for the next generation, because who the heck would want to be like them? I see her as a role model for what you don't want to be, let's hope these tweens in the survey carry their feelings on the their teens and beyound,











poiuyt

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1269560,00.html
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The attorney questioned whether Sheriff Lee Baca should be held in contempt of court for releasing Hilton on Thursday morning.


But he only did what every other "good" Chauvenist would do. Like Niffong he got chivalrous.

The Gonzman


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1269560,00.html
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The attorney questioned whether Sheriff Lee Baca should be held in contempt of court for releasing Hilton on Thursday morning.


But he only did what every other "good" Chauvenist would do. Like Niffong he got chivalrous.


I hope the slutty little twit gets tossed back in the clink.  For the full term.

Let the bitch cry her eyes out in solitary.
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devia

Hmmmm.

I guess this is a kinda karma for whenever I totalied derailed a thread.

Nevertheless young girls seem to be seeing Paris as someone they should be staying away from not becoming like. That's good.

The Biscuit Queen

I don't know, are they?
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There are always two extremes....the truth lies in the middle.

devia

I don't know. Do your boys see girls as being disposable sperm disposites because of Hilton?

If so they both have a huge problem. If I'm right the todays tweens will be rather pissed off regarding how their "role models" are acting. IMHO kids are just not that stupid, and sometimes smarter then us.


The Biscuit Queen

We don't have TV, and my boys are pretty much ignoring what the celebrities do. Hilton isn't even on their radar.

I was asking if you know that girls are tired of this, or if they just assume they have to emulate them still to be cool. I think Brittany went too far with the shaving the head thing for most girls to follow, but the short shirts with no undies? Probably started a trend.
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shiva

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Part of it would be simple rebellion. My dad rebelled from his dad by being the opposite of him, I rebelled by being the opposite of my dad, my kids rebelled against me by being conservative etc.


It is pretty funny how some families follow chains like that, each rebelling against their predecessor's values. Not sure if this was off topic or not? Not sure what your question was. Missed it maybe.

Um yeah, on the subject of Paris Hilton. I doubt she'll do even a quarter of the jailtime, what little of it there was. One day when (if) she's old and wise she will look back and realize she wasn't quite the envied goddess she thought she was. What the hell is with all these young almost-famous starlets going to parties without panties? ...Oh wait, forget I asked.  :greener:

She's human too, but she's a good little copycat. People love to put stars up on pedestals to watch how far they fall, although I'm pretty sure Paris hopped off that pedestal almost as soon as she was on it. Which wouldn't explain why she's in the 'In' crowd, but it's not like she's an example of moral virtues exemplified. Smart girls won't look up to her, shallow ones will. To each their own.
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devia

<<<<I was asking if you know that girls are tired of this, or if they just assume they have to emulate them still to be cool. I think Brittany went too far with the shaving the head thing for most girls to follow, but the short shirts with no undies? Probably started a trend.>>>>>


I think that if my daughters had ben closer to my foster daughter's age she would have had a negative impact on them (and I wouldn't have been able to take her in).

From the article the tweens interviewed were disgusted by her actions, I'm sure you'd get a different responce if you polled at a highschool level. I've seen enough cases where the older sibling or couin lead them down the garden path of negative behaviors. Tweens are still under parental control, they care more about what there parents think then their peers, and most parents do not want their kids acting like these celebrities do.  It's fairly easy to instill values that stick with you at that age, older teens parents I'm sure never thought they'd have to have a conversation about not showing your vagina in public, when they were still subseptable to their influence over their peers

I think the kids will be alright. Heck when I was a kid drinking and driving was the norm, my kids and their peers wouldn't dream of getting into a car with someone would been drinking nevermind  drive that car themself. Today a kid who drinks and drives isn't cool, their a loser.

I think the message is pretty clear that Hilton and her like is are not  cool, their rather spoiled and somewhat deranged (in the case of Brittiny really deranged).

10 years from now she'll either be a dried up addict or preaching the evils of her younger ways, either way there will be consequences for her actions and these younger kids will grow up seeing them. Kinda like the whole Micheal Jackson mess, at least in the U.S he stopped being cool when it became ovious he had serious mental problems.




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