Is My Behavior Counter to the Cause?

Started by Zencommand, Sep 11, 2007, 08:01 PM

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Zencommand

Hiya Gents,

I'm new and was wondering:
I'm a professional musician whose been active (somewhat) in the MRM since Angry Harry started up years ago.
After my chicken-shit wife left me I realized I didn't have to be a wage-slave any longer and got back into music full-time.
The question I'm positing here is:  Some of you might refer to me as a 'player' because, in my position, it's extremely easy to meet (and have my way with) new women - I never stick around even long enough for the bullshit and move on before that happens.  Am I a 'bad' example per the Feminazis?
I have a 13-yr.-old daughter whom I adore and see as much as possible.  This, however, is the downside to my profession - I travel extensively and the traditional '2 weekends a month' rule doesn't factor in for me.
All I can say is, that even in Asia the disease is spreading lately...
I really love what I do but am sometimes conflicted.
Any thoughts would be welcome.

Tony Ananda

Zencommand,

You really don't owe anything to the "cause".  The cause is an abstraction, not a real thing or person.  It is not some totalistic religion that demands your full faith and fidelity at all times (like marriage). 

Do you feel the need to be part of a group that will dissolve you, take you over, tell you what to do every moment?  There may be significant material for observation in those feelings.  I would not trust those feelings without examining them thoroughly first. 

All people and situations are different.  Your situation is unique to you--alone.  There can be no prescriptions for specific behaviors from an abstract and dispersed group of people, mostly strangers, like the men's movement.  It may be able to help you make clearer decisions on how to behave but it cannot, and should not, dictate. 

All the best,

Tony
When the going gets weird, the wierd turn pro.

Cordell Walker

 goo dpost Tony,
Zen, the way I see it is any movement or ideology that expects   total conformity is a bogus movement..........................your a masculist that  cant stay away from the ladies(or they cant stay away from you either way); I'm a long haired pot smoking athiest conservative "wingnut" who wont watch CNN because of liberal bias..............................just think about it, homosexuals are men too, just because they might be different  doesnt mean we dont have enough common ground to stand together for the righting of wrongs
"how can you kill women and children?"---private joker
"Easy, ya just dont lead em as much" ---Animal Mother

devia

Zencommand,

I think if you use a condom to make sure you don't leave any fatherless Zen's in your path the rest is just consenual adult behavior.

CaptDMO

I smell sock puppetry, however

Gee Zen,
There's all sorts of approaches to this. Mine is clearly distinct from that posted under the name Tony Ananda.

If you see men you know, or know of, subjected to theft by extortion, facilitated by courts, enforced by
"other" men with guns and sticks, presided over by wardens, deprived of instilling integrity
in their children, denied academic opportunity-despite appropriate credentials, denied
higher athletic pursuits on the whims of socialism, subjected to de facto burden of assumption of guilt in courts of criminal law, denied access and equal opportunity in "special" family courts. (FAMILY courts?), subjected to harsher penalty of more extreme duration than "others" are charitably afforded, 
then perhaps you might consider examining the VERY tangible assault on those that have even the slightest potential to ABRUPTLY deny the duped tools of fascist communism-that those i]more equal than others[/i] may relax in the dachas so nicely appointed with the sweat and sinew of others.

Or you can just assume your entitlement to a ration of cake when all your bread is gone,
provided  the baker isn't in prison.

NO Zencommand, there's no expectation that one maintain ANY sort of integrity  to any of the clearly outlined, historically documented, and intellectually defended against ALL disingenuous and duplicitous plaints of the sheltered ivy towers. You can just keep fiddling all autumn long as the ants toil in anticipation of the inevitable cold winter ahead.

In fact;
Here, have a Sam Adams, on me!
Quote
If ye love wealth greater than liberty,
the tranquuility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsel, nor your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you,
and may prosterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

   

Assault

Do whatever makes you happy. You're looking at your sexuality through the feminist inspired model of Male sex= bad, Female sex=good.

I never let what I thought others might say influence my behaviour with women.
Feminism is the product of female selfishness, compounded by male chivalry.

- Peter Zohrab -

Tony Ananda

   
>NO Zencommand, there's no expectation that one maintain ANY sort of integrity  to any of the clearly outlined, historically documented, and intellectually defended against ALL disingenuous and duplicitous plaints of the sheltered ivy towers. You can just keep fiddling all autumn long as the ants toil in anticipation of the inevitable cold winter ahead.<

No, CaptDMO, there ain't no "how to" book on how to unwind, to the least detriment of everyone, the traditions, customs, beliefs and views rooted in the lives of people over centuries.  Go ahead, tear down and burn those ivy towers.  It's been tried many times and the end result was always a worse form of tyranny, more misery all around and a worse mess than before.

Intellectually defend, defend, defend until you are blue in the face.  Search beyond the intellectual need for "answers", solutions and more answers.  The problems and bad laws were created and maintained by irrational forces within people, including us.  We cannot change irrational beliefs and defenses using reason and logic.  It will fall on deaf ears as we have proven to ourselves many times in our debates with feminists, for example, and other true believers who will not be moved. 

Start with your own reactionary reflexes.  It's not the material, or content that has to change, but the process of interaction and response.  Those are the really hard ones, much harder than changing the wording of the various laws to include men.  If men still don't count in peoples' minds and emotions it won't make any difference.  We have also seen that many times.

Regards,

Tony
When the going gets weird, the wierd turn pro.

Trueman

Zen,

I think that type of behavior is exactly what the cause needs. Feminists have made it nearly impossible to have a "normal" relationship with a woman due to all the rules they have had implemented over the last 20-30 years. Marriage is a no-win situation for a man, and now they are working on making it that way for live-in couples also. We (men) don't want to go on without sex so, that leaves only thing. 4F em. 4F em and sit back and watch what they try to do next to combat that.

It's the old stay one step ahead of them principal.

OTS - my brother is a drummer in a band that travels primarily the west coast, so I know the life style and the goings on involved with being a traveling musician. Go get em.

shard43

Fck and Chck all the way man, don't worry about giving feminists ammo, because all the ammo they need is manufactured in their own heads.

Mr. X

I have a friend who's in a band. Ugliest guy you could ever meet but, cause he's in a band, he gets girls. That and baseball players for some reason. I guess some girls have some check list they run through nailing guys like they are merit badges. "Ball player - check. Band guy - check. Cop - check. Fireman - check."

As for what you do, just protect yourself. You aren't betraying any cause. Just as long as you understand you don't need women's approval to prove your manhood. Now if you were nailing girls to earn some man merit-badge then I'd say you have a problem of some kind because the men who seek women's approval for their manhood are usually the ones who betray men.
Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

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Sep 12, 2007, 11:48 AM Last Edit: Sep 12, 2007, 11:56 AM by johndias
...it's extremely easy to meet (and have my way with) new women -- I never stick around even long enough for the bullshit and move on before that happens.  Am I a 'bad' example per the Feminazis?
I have a 13-yr.-old daughter whom I adore and see as much as possible.

The question is, are you a bad example to whom?  Immediately after the mention of "bad example," you bring up your daughter.  You're worried that you're being a bad example to your daughter.

It sounds like you're away from her most of the time, even though you said you try to see her as much as possible.  When you do see her, do you put your lifestyle away and show the nurturing fatherly side of yourself?  Because if you don't, and instead you show your true lifestyle (talking about the women you're with, your lifestyle, flaunting it in her presence like it's sexy), then you can rest assured that you are leaving an impression on her.  And maybe that's the reason why you wrote here.

She will most certainly imitate who she thinks you are.  It is up to you to be one kind of man when you're around her -- the kind of man whose qualities you wish to rub off on her character -- and party hardy when you're away from her and on your own.  If you're comfortable with the idea of her being another version of you when she's twice her age, then keep on keepin' on.  Otherwise, make it your mission in life to be the best example you can be when you're around her.

If you do choose to lead such a double life (shielding her from your lifestyle when you're with her), always be aware that children are perceptive (and become more so as they grow older), and so she may see through the facade eventually.  Perhaps by then she will have developed her own identity and formed her own character, no longer imitating.  And perhaps not; she may always idolize you.  Therein lies the risk.

KellyMac

I don't think sleeping with willing women is counter to the cause. You're not married. Just make sure you're protected. Disease and paternity suits have a way of ruining your day.

That being said, though, John Dias makes and incredibly important point. Be very careful of the impression you make on your daughter. You can't control what your ex does, but make sure you don't give her any ammunition.

Zencommand

Thanks all for the very encouraging replies!
Yes, I do lead a double life where it concerns my daughter - she is only 13 and I DON'T want her to grow into the groveling star-effers I routinely shake 'n bake.
Two more tours and I should have enough money for at least two years of decent college for her in a trust.
I recommend ALL American men travel abroad as much as possible - the difference is amazing...  especially (right now) in South America.  The women here are simply AMAZING to behold.
Just one week down here and you'll be a different man.  Even without the BS rock-star crap.
I mainly wanted to put this post out to any trolling feminazis who like to portray any man willing to stick up for his biological rights as a woman-hating mysoginist who can't get laid.  All I have to say to them is, "See ya at the next show...".

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