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Well I don't know about the mounties but the U.S. Army "Gender Normed" the standards on the APFT. A male 18 to 26 had to do 46 push ups and 73 situps in 2 minutes and run 2 miles in no mor than 14:57. A female in the same age group had to do 12 pushups, 42 situps and run 2 miles in 27 minutes or less. The standards were dumed down for females to the point that they are a joke. My guess is that the standards for the Females in the Mounties were done the same way. Kind of something to think about when you have to kick in the door and wrestle down a suspect.

I wrote an article about it in the political section Devia. You should read it.
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I believe there might be some discrimination
concerning  those that cannot speak English as well.


ya think?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/14/bc-taservideo.html


should the title say the guy died from this? WTF


yep,it should

the following enquiry found that all of the officers were told and coached what to say by a superior and all were caught lieing-no charges laid

outdoors


Well I don't know about the mounties but the U.S. Army "Gender Normed" the standards on the APFT. A male 18 to 26 had to do 46 push ups and 73 situps in 2 minutes and run 2 miles in no mor than 14:57. A female in the same age group had to do 12 pushups, 42 situps and run 2 miles in 27 minutes or less. The standards were dumed down for females to the point that they are a joke. My guess is that the standards for the Females in the Mounties were done the same way. Kind of something to think about when you have to kick in the door and wrestle down a suspect.

I wrote an article about it in the political section Devia. You should read it.



thats kinda like saying;

in a horse race the mares should only have to run 3/4 of the track because they are female while the stallions run the whole length to make things equal or...horse jumping-same thing....females horses should only have small jumps compared to the males-this is not equal-the only barrier in this original story was getting the standards lowered so women could be "equal"

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I believe there might be some discrimination
concerning  those that cannot speak English as well.


ya think?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/14/bc-taservideo.html


should the title say the guy died from this? WTF


yep,it should

the following enquiry found that all of the officers were told and coached what to say by a superior and all were caught lieing-no charges laid


Top RCMP officer defends email at Taser inquiry
Last Updated: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | 5:35 PM ET Comments312Recommend122CBC News
The Braidwood Inquiry is investigating the death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport in October, 2007. (Paul Pritchard)
A senior RCMP officer in B.C. says he is standing by a controversial email he wrote about the police use of Tasers on Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver airport two years ago.

RCMP Chief Supt. Richard Bent told the Braidwood inquiry into Dziekanski's death that he wrote the email shortly after speaking by phone to the supervisor of the officers involved in the incident.

Dziekanski died in October 2007 after being shot five times by RCMP officers with a stun gun, then left handcuffed face down on the floor of the airport's arrivals lounge.

'... discussed the response en route and decided that if he did not comply that they would go to CEW.'
--RCMP Chief Supt. Richard BentThe inquiry resumed Tuesday after a three-month delay to allow the contents of an internal RCMP email to be examined.

The November 2007 email, from Bent to assistant commissioner Al McIntyre, suggests the four Mounties who responded to the airport call discussed, before they arrived on the scene, a plan to use a Taser against the Polish immigrant.

"Finally, spoke to Wayne and he indicated that the members did not articulate that they saw the symptoms of excited delirium, but instead had discussed the response en route and decided that if he did not comply that they would go to CEW," Bent said in the email.

The "Wayne" in the email is Supt. Wayne Rideout, then head of the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team looking into Dziekanski's death. CEW is short for a conducted energy weapon, the RCMP name for a Taser-type weapon.

The revelation the email existed halted inquiry proceedings in June just as summations were to begin.

'We're going to deal with it'
The email appears to contradict the statements of the four officers involved in the incident at Vancouver International Airport. They testified in the spring that they didn't have a plan before reaching the scene to use the stun gun on Dziekanski.

Inquiry commissioner Thomas Braidwood has scolded the RCMP for failing to disclose the email sooner.

"I was critical back in June because that email we should have had," inquiry lawyer Art Vertlieb said. "The more important thing is we've got it and we're going to deal with it."

Vertlieb has acknowledged the comments on the email are hearsay but he said they must be investigated since they're from senior RCMP.

"On its face, the email appears to tell a significantly different story," he said.

The three RCMP officials cited in the email are expected to tell the inquiry the email was the result of a misunderstanding.

The four officers who were at the airport have already appeared before the inquiry and are not scheduled to appear again.

"There is not a single shred of evidence to support the assertion made in Chief Bent's email," said lawyer David Butcher, who represents Const. Bill Bentley.

Officers not facing charges
The RCMP has produced about 18,000 new documents since June.

Walter Kosteckyj, the lawyer representing Dziekanski's mother, said he'll consider asking the inquiry to call back the four officers if he thinks there are unanswered questions.

Crown prosecutors have decided not to charge Bentley, Const. Gerry Rundel, Const. Kwesi Millington or Cpl. Benjamin Robinson in Dziekanski's death.

"Based on the assessment of evidence I've seen to date, I haven't seen much else," Kosteckyj told The Canadian Press. "The only thing that has to be explained is why does a person who is in command write that kind of an email. When I take a look at how quickly (the Taser) was used, I have a hard time believing that it wasn't discussed."

Vertlieb said final arguments will likely finish by mid-October.

With files from The Canadian Press

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/09/22/dziekanski-braidwood-inquiry-email183.html?ref=rss

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