stop blocking the threads

[TheManOnTheStreet]

i'm going to have to save that post for another day, but i WILL read it. i had to stop after reading your former spouse yelling at your 2 yr old daughter. that makes me sad, but i can relate b/c when you're arguing with your former other a lot of rational thinking goes out the door. if she's the one responsible for the child most of the time then she is probably so stressed out by the time she is fighting with you that she just lost it. and then she beats you up well that sux. i'll read the rest later...

nope.  No justifying child abuse here... no pussy pass either!   nope... no-sireee!

You are fucking pathetic.

TMOTS

[The Gonzman]

you don't seem to understand anything about anything. everything i offered her was totally legal and legit.

Legal != Moral

depending on her state, all she has to do is go ask the proper official and they'd tell her the same thing. all she'd have to do is go to an attorney, or a victim's advocate at the county courthouse, or talk to the people at the hospital who deal with birth certificates (registrar). i'd bet you have never had to find any of this information out. these are all things i did in MY situation and nothing would be able to stop ANY biological father from seeing his child because he would have an attorney and they'd go to court.

OH THE HORROR! A mere male exercising a legal right?!?!?!?!  Jeez, what the FUCK is next!  I mean, what do these males thing they are - PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?!

I think that pretty much covers it with you.

!PLONK!

[TheManOnTheStreet]

Now now Gonz... let's not start using Canadian Hate speach....

TMOTS

[outdoors]

Now now Gonz... let's not start using Canadian Hate speach....

TMOTS

breathing to loud in the presence of a woman can be a one way trip to anger management for men-in Canada

[MAUS]

Now now Gonz... let's not start using Canadian Hate speach....

TMOTS

breathing to loud in the presence of a woman can be a one way trip to anger management for men-in Canada

Outdoors...you brought back a memory...I used to teach karate. One of my students was a lesbian feminist who taught WENDO and anger management at a battered women's shelter...she quit karate at orange belt level...she took a cheap shot at me while sparring and dislocated her shoulder as a result of her own uncontrolled efforts...she got angry and lost focus...you had to be there..

[Quentin0352]

Let me see if all the arguments add up there Folded.

You say abuse is not acceptable to you no matter who does it but you then made excuses for a woman abusing a 2 year old.

You say you hate women that abuse men but argue that they can only control men if they are WEAK. In other words you try to insult them if they are able to be controlled. The whole time you have ignored how the system is geared at only assisting women in these kinds of bad relationships and even provided advise to a woman on how to manipulate the system and abuse a man based only on her claims.

I find it interesting that you are able to prevent the father of your child and talk of hating him so readily though I am unable to get even close to the same control or help protecting my children even though the mother killed one already. Could it be that it isn't a weak man that can be abused and manipulated that easily since obviously he has two choices, kiss up to her or plan on a system that will help her destroy his life and any chance he has at a relationship with his kids? A "weak" man would then be any male who actually cares for his children under the definitions you put forth and the system we have.

Ans then we wonder why man young men are just giving up, saying fuck it and leaving instead of trying to be a father. Either they are then "weak" and must accept the total control of the mother over them and the relationship they have with their child or they can be "strong" but not "real men" by leaving and hoping she never figures out enough to nail him for child support.

Nice logic there Folded, and you say you are not an extremist?

[foldedintobeauty]

i'm going to have to save that post for another day, but i WILL read it. i had to stop after reading your former spouse yelling at your 2 yr old daughter. that makes me sad, but i can relate b/c when you're arguing with your former other a lot of rational thinking goes out the door. if she's the one responsible for the child most of the time then she is probably so stressed out by the time she is fighting with you that she just lost it. and then she beats you up well that sux. i'll read the rest later...

nope.  No justifying child abuse here... no pussy pass either!   nope... no-sireee!

You are fucking pathetic.

TMOTS

why are you using a derogatory remark about the female body? do you think you sound cool and manly?

[foldedintobeauty]

you don't seem to understand anything about anything. everything i offered her was totally legal and legit.

Legal != Moral

depending on her state, all she has to do is go ask the proper official and they'd tell her the same thing. all she'd have to do is go to an attorney, or a victim's advocate at the county courthouse, or talk to the people at the hospital who deal with birth certificates (registrar). i'd bet you have never had to find any of this information out. these are all things i did in MY situation and nothing would be able to stop ANY biological father from seeing his child because he would have an attorney and they'd go to court.

OH THE HORROR! A mere male exercising a legal right?!?!?!?!  Jeez, what the FUCK is next!  I mean, what do these males thing they are - PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?!

I think that pretty much covers it with you.

!PLONK!

what the hell are you talking about? i know a bio dad can exercise his legal right IF he wants to. no one is forcing anyone to do anything. you gotta have money, time, and brains.

[Dadof4]

what the hell are you talking about? i know a bio dad can exercise his legal right IF he wants to. no one is forcing anyone to do anything. you gotta have money, time, and brains.


Oh yes your right that's all it takes. We obviously live in two different worlds. Women jump from loophole to loophole from dodging court summons to skipping state which is compleatly acceptable by today's standards and at the same time suck the mans wallet dry because she needed none of the above stated qualities to file for child support because CSEA and Welfare are more then happy to do it for them as well as pick up the tab for the whole thing. So at the same time as we're supposed to be pursueing the women who have taken our children with all these endless legal battles we're handing over 1/3 of our check to the person we're trying to fight. The state of the union for men in the family court system can be summed up in two words. "ASS FUCK"

[TheManOnTheStreet]

i'm going to have to save that post for another day, but i WILL read it. i had to stop after reading your former spouse yelling at your 2 yr old daughter. that makes me sad, but i can relate b/c when you're arguing with your former other a lot of rational thinking goes out the door. if she's the one responsible for the child most of the time then she is probably so stressed out by the time she is fighting with you that she just lost it. and then she beats you up well that sux. i'll read the rest later...

nope.  No justifying child abuse here... no pussy pass either!   nope... no-sireee!

You are fucking pathetic.

TMOTS

why are you using a derogatory remark about the female body? do you think you sound cool and manly?

OOOooooooo quick call the Canadian Mounted!  He is using hate speech!  I is ascared!  Arrest him!

The PUSSY-PASS is exactly what is sounds like.  a pass for the almight holder of the vagina, whether it be suchi grade or rotten tuna, for any and all discretions.... what would send a man to prison for a century, is 7 or so days for a mighty vagina...Sometimes a parade is held.




TMOTS

[Quentin0352]

I see you ignored any points about problems with your various arguments and see no problems in the system which rejects males who are abused.

Yup, you don't find a dead child at the hands of thier mother nearly as upsetting as the term "pussy pass" do you?

[julie]

Well, I am an idiot and I too am being thought of as more than one personality.

But I will say this. Men abusing women is real and women abusing men is real.

Don't let people shame you into taking responsibility for another persons actions. It is easy to say that women ask for it. Shit, pregnancy alone makes your hormones go all over the place. But some will say, "That's optional. I didn't go through that. I was the perfect wife when I was pregnant".

Big deal. I wasn't. I cried and looked feared when my husband told me to get it together.

Now, I look at the same fear in children and you know what? It makes me get more angry. I feel as if they shouldn't be afraid of me. That they should be strong and handle the words I say to them. After all, they are only words.


Split personality here alright. I am split between the good and the bad and the right method to solve it. Should we question things and learn from them or should we fight and say that it is no big deal. Just a part of life and acceptable. 

[The Biscuit Queen]

OK, is julie also foldedintobeauty?  If yes, why is she allowed to have two usernames. It is confusing.

[julie]

OK, is julie also foldedintobeauty?  If yes, why is she allowed to have two usernames. It is confusing.

I guess this is what happens when online. I guess there is no possible reality.

Is this the best you can do?

Here I am admitting to abuse of children and here is you making it some sort of a plot to reckon with. I am now 2 users. Do you seriously believe I am YOUR enemy. Oh, sorry, I am not sure yet of the criteria of your enemy.

You are one person. Just one. Maybe you have never seen a bad thing in you life. And yet somehow you want to change the whole of society.

Well, guess what? These feminists didn't just make an army out of nothing. All these socialist didn't just pop out of nowhere to upset the perfect life of males and females.

Don't you know that feminism uses a victim status for women that refuses women to also talk about abusing others. Or even to get down to the nitty gritty. I can tell you that if I was in a superior position I would make the MRM for both male and female. For reality of what really goes on.

Do you not know that women are craving for anger management courses? Men and women may be different but we are not perfect parents nor perfect spouses.

This is what I mean by the MRM being about the perfect traditional life style. And how only women who are somehow able to fit in with the perfect criteria of happy mum and wife.

This seems like such a struggle to get the MRM to look outside the square. For them to care for more than the prefect little family or the cash they have to dish out to the ex.

[The Biscuit Queen]

So are you foldedintobeauty?  I am so confused. I keep seeing julie referred to as folded and vice versa so I am asking an honest question.

As to the rest, that is confusing too. Your writing is very convoluted and meandering, making it very difficult to follow. I am losing interest in trying, as you shoot off in another direction whenever any of us try to understand your writing.

If you are abusing your kids, then you need to get help so you can stop, or give the kids to someone who can raise them without abusing them. I could not tell if you were actually talking about yourself or were speaking as a dream sequence or writing in, oh, what do you call it? When you write whatever comes to mind? Stream of conscousness.

Anyways, please answer the question as to how many user identities you have.  I will go from there.