Equal Parenting Bike Trek- Interesting dishonesty in Detroit News

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May 21, 2008, 02:49 PM Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 03:01 PM by Questioner
A bike trek for equal parenting was recently covered in the Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080519/METRO/805190370

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But many custodial parents, family law attorneys and domestic violence activists oppose making joint custody mandatory.

They say every family is different, and 50-50 custody doesn't work in every situation.

It becomes especially difficult when parents live in different school districts or one of them doesn't want joint custody. Another factor is that mandating joint custody can sometimes disrupt a child's stability.

"When a child's whole world is changing, we want to keep as much stable in their lives as we can," said Karen Sendelbach, chair of the Family Law Section of the State Bar of Michigan.

Other opponents say noncustodial parents sometimes want joint custody simply to even the score with their ex-partner or to reduce their child support obligation. A noncustodial parent's support payments can drop by as much as 40 percent if the child stays overnight 128 times or more each year.

"The 50-50 custody split is more about people not wanting to feel the other parent has won," said Kent Weichmann, chair of the Legislative Committee of the Family Law Section.

"It has nothing to do with the relationship with the child. It's more about who's winning. It also has to do with paying less child support."


Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the object of the equal parenting movement is not about "50-50 custody doesn't work in every situation" but a rebuttable presumption of joint-custody, meaning that if it's not appropriate, some other arrangement can be worked-out.

The phrase "rebuttable presumption" is not very difficult to understand, and yet this is construed as being "50-50 custody... in every situation". Do the people who do this do it knowing full well that they're lying?

Also, as for the idea that it's for the purpose of "paying less child support"... if a dad has joint custody of a kid and the kid is living under the dad's roof, the child support he was paying to the mother for the "care" of the children, will now go into his household expenses that are associated with the children. So his money is being paid-out in support of the child living with him.

So do they just make these arguments-up out of whole cloth?

Mr. Bad


A bike trek for equal parenting was recently covered in the Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080519/METRO/805190370

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the object of the equal parenting movement is not about "50-50 custody doesn't work in every situation" but a rebuttable presumption of joint-custody, meaning that if it's not appropriate, some other arrangement can be worked-out.

The phrase "rebuttable presumption" is not very difficult to understand, and yet this is construed as being "50-50 custody... in every situation". Do the people who do this do it knowing full well that they're lying?


Uh, is this a trick question?  Bacause the obvious answer is yes

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Also, as for the idea that it's for the purpose of "paying less child support"... if a dad has joint custody of a kid and the kid is living under the dad's roof, the child support he was paying to the mother for the "care" of the children, will now go into his household expenses that are associated with the children. So his money is being paid-out in support of the child living with him.


This puts the truth to the lie that "child support" is really for the kids.  Obviously, if what we're reading here is accurate, when these people say 'child support' what they really mean is alimony
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Sir Jessy of Anti

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So do they just make these arguments-up out of whole cloth?


I think it is psychological projection.  These people project the inverse of the truth because they feel that they know what they stand for is wrong, worse, they know what they do is wrong, what they promulgate is incorrect, evil, abominable, and detestable!

So as a self defense mechanism to avoid intellectual schism, they misdirect their own true nature on innocents.  The first course of action is to lie, slander, and re-frame the debate into terms they can misuse.

It's a bit like Japan declaring war on America after bombing Pearl Harbor.
   
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Sir Jessy of Anti

Oh, and Q, I would have emboldened this part:

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"It has nothing to do with the relationship with the child.


What?  Spending more time as a father with my child has nothing to do with my child?  Screw you fascist!!!!
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rph3664

I don't believe in mandatory ANYTHING regarding family law, because every case is different.

Questioner

In my opinion, the quote which gives away the most is: "It's more about who's winning."

Very revealing defense of the status quo.

Sir Jessy of Anti


I don't believe in mandatory ANYTHING regarding family law, because every case is different.


Yeah, feminists frequently cite this lie.  What part of REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION OF JOINT CUSTODY is hard to understand?  Feminists lie and as I said try and re-frame the debate into one of mandatory joint custody WHICH IS NOT EVEN BEING SUGGESTED~!

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