Poll from the National Organization for Women (NOW), re: Sarah Palin

Started by Men's Rights Activist, Sep 20, 2008, 11:36 AM

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In your opinion, do you think the National Organization is qualified to speak for women?

Yes
0 (0%)
No
11 (28.2%)
Yes, they should speak for men too.
0 (0%)
No, they are too biased by Marxist, gender feminist prejudices to speak for anyone.
28 (71.8%)

Total Members Voted: 39

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Men's Rights Activist

Here is a poll from the National Organization for Women (NOW), asking if you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice-President of the United States.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

I respect everyone's right to vote however they "choose," and please, vote in this NOW poll as you see fit, but now let me ask you a question:
(see survey question)
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Libertariandadd

I motion to censure NOW (Neomarxist Order of Witches) now and forever. STFU!!!! 
'It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.' George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

K9

WTF is NOW, a known political organization, doing on PBS' website??!!
Explaining misandry to a feminist is like explaining "wet" to a fish.

Teri


Sarah Palin does not speak for most American women.  Either does McCain.  Personally, I hate liars.  Always have.  I felt the same way about Bush, long before anyone talked about his dishonesty. 

We need to steer clear of liars, manipulators and people who use power to destroy others who don't agree.  Sound like N.O.W.?  You guys have dealt with enough of that from your exes.

teri

http://www.teristoddard.org
http://www.jugsforjustice.org
http://www.sharedparentingworks.org

Libertariandadd

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WTF is NOW, a known political organization, doing on PBS' website??!!

I know its sickening but the radicals control PBS now. Another one bites the dust.  :BangHead:
'It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.' George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

SouthernGuy



We need to steer clear of liars, manipulators and people who use power to destroy others who don't agree. 


That's not a bunch of generic tripe. Not at all.

Mr. X



Sarah Palin does not speak for most American women.  Either does McCain.  Personally, I hate liars.  Always have.  I felt the same way about Bush, long before anyone talked about his dishonesty. 

We need to steer clear of liars, manipulators and people who use power to destroy others who don't agree.  Sound like N.O.W.?  You guys have dealt with enough of that from your exes.

teri

http://www.teristoddard.org
http://www.jugsforjustice.org
http://www.sharedparentingworks.org


Do you have stats showing "most" american women are of one group or another? I didn't know they were sheep.

BTW how could a woman who has 5 kids, a career, a special needs kid, husband, son in military NOT represent values for women? Who are these "most women" you refer to? Hillary also didn't represent "most women" and it was clear in the undisputable fact that over 50% of the registered democrat female voters did NOT vote for her.

But if you think some inexperience senator dude knows more about women's issues than a woman with kids, husband, career etc then by all means vote Obama.
Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

mens_issues

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Sep 21, 2008, 08:24 PM Last Edit: Sep 21, 2008, 08:32 PM by mens_issues
"NOW" in this instance is actually a PBS program, not the "National Organization for Women" (aka National Organization of Man Hating Bitches). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOW_with_Bill_Moyers

Although PBS is, of course, highly influenced by the left.
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Mr. X

http://www.teristoddard.org/wordpress/?p=24

Teri you might want to check those claims about Palin. That letter from Anne Kilkenny has been refuted already. Try this link for myths and facts.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/2/

Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

Teri


http://www.teristoddard.org/wordpress/?p=24

Teri you might want to check those claims about Palin. That letter from Anne Kilkenny has been refuted already. Try this link for myths and facts.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/2/




Actually, that email is real.  http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/sarahpalin.asp

Teri

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Do you have stats showing "most" american women are of one group or another? I didn't know they were sheep.

BTW how could a woman who has 5 kids, a career, a special needs kid, husband, son in military NOT represent values for women? Who are these "most women" you refer to? Hillary also didn't represent "most women" and it was clear in the undisputable fact that over 50% of the registered democrat female voters did NOT vote for her.

But if you think some inexperience senator dude knows more about women's issues than a woman with kids, husband, career etc then by all means vote Obama.


I like to find facts away from partisan places.  I've been looking at sites like these:
http://wire.factcheck.org/
http://www.politifact.com/
http://www.factchecked.org/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/

As far as how many people agree with me on issues, I looked here last:  http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008

Sooooooo...are you saying any man with a wife, kids and career speaks for you?  Seems to me you're the one accusing women of being sheep, not me.  We use our brains to sort out the issues.  At least I do.  I don't vote for the person with the best color lipstick.

I'm surprised you don't know this.  The last election (and God knows how many in the past, and future) was rigged.  One of my greatest fears is that it will happen again. 

Eighty percent (80%) of the population was disgusted with the Bush clan... until pretty palin showed up.  When McCain was asked why she's only given 2 interviews he said, "we're getting a great response campaigning.  people love her."  in other words, she does good giving speeches other people have written for her.  she can't handle the job.  period.

I don't like her because she lies as easily as my 2nd husband did.  he's a pathological liar.  I don't know how long she's been a liar, but she sure is now.  just like him...she lies about little things and big things.  I care about integrity.

I hope you do too!

The Gonzman

Barack Obama is a socialist.

He was nursed at the tit of Marxism, and nutured by radicalism.

I will not vote for him.  I will vote against him.  If elected, he will not be my president, and I will do everything within my power to undermine his regime.

Whatever misgivings I may have on McCain/Palin, they are by far and away the lesser evil.

The Left is socialist, it is anti-American, Anti-Christian, Anti-Male, and Anti-White.  It stands for nothing except the tearing down of things for the sake of power.  It is nothing more than the rotting, corpselike hand of fascism guised in a silken glove.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

dr e


Gonz said:
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The Left is socialist, it is anti-American, Anti-Christian, Anti-Male, and Anti-White.


That about sums it up.  I would bet that there won't be any liberals who will be able to refute that statement.  Any takers?
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

Mr. X

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Sep 22, 2008, 12:18 PM Last Edit: Sep 22, 2008, 12:57 PM by Mr. X


http://www.teristoddard.org/wordpress/?p=24

Teri you might want to check those claims about Palin. That letter from Anne Kilkenny has been refuted already. Try this link for myths and facts.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/2/




Actually, that email is real.  http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/sarahpalin.asp


The email is real... the contents have been disproved. Plus its a subjective email.

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Sooooooo...are you saying any man with a wife, kids and career speaks for you?  Seems to me you're the one accusing women of being sheep, not me.  We use our brains to sort out the issues.  At least I do.  I don't vote for the person with the best color lipstick.

That is your strawman. If I do vote for Palin its not due to lipstick. BTW demonizing people to get them to do what you want doesn't work anymore. Men do not need the approval of women to be men. As for sheep, yes when women vote enmasse like when blacks vote enmasse (98% of black voters voted obama). If you really think men are voting for a woman cause she has lipstick then you are sadly trying to deminize and guilt men into doing what you want akin to saying if you don't vote for X you are racist/sexist. That tactic doesn't work anymore. One of the strong motivators for me is Palin is a woman who won't blame white men for all the world's problems and use negative whipping to get people to do what she wants. Sorry, I know you think being nice is capitulation and submissiveness but you are wrong. Its how real people interact. I will not respond to a whip made either of guilt or shame. Your approval is quite unnecessary.

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I'm surprised you don't know this.  The last election (and God knows how many in the past, and future) was rigged.  One of my greatest fears is that it will happen again.


So if you have 100% air tight evidence the election was rigged how come you and your associates don't bring charges? Did Obama bring charges? Did Kerry? Prove the election was rigged. BTW before you start dishing up articles about voting machines I can tell you as an ex-chicagoan that I have seen my fair share of dead people voting democrat.

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Eighty percent (80%) of the population was disgusted with the Bush clan... until pretty palin showed up.  When McCain was asked why she's only given 2 interviews he said, "we're getting a great response campaigning.  people love her."  in other words, she does good giving speeches other people have written for her.  she can't handle the job.  period.
Obama doesn't write all his own speeches. A lot of candidates don't. As for impromtu interviews, Plain does quite well. She is steady and direct w2ith replies. If 80% of the populace hated Bush then why did Bush win? Oh that's right... he magically cheated somehow. If Palin is so unqualified for 634 days in office as a govenor then why is Obama qualified for 747 days as a senator? Obama has never dealt with a large budget, the military or management of anything larger than his own campaign and others do that for him.

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I don't like her because she lies as easily as my 2nd husband did.  he's a pathological liar.  I don't know how long she's been a liar, but she sure is now.  just like him...she lies about little things and big things.  I care about integrity.


What did she lie about? What exactly? Lie or she didn't do the nasty things accused of her. Sorry she's not a Nazi as she was accused. Sorry her husband isn't sleeping with Bristol. sorry she didn't have an affair. Sorry she didn't say the things about creationism and abortion as she's been labelled with. Sorry she's not Satan. BTW WTF are you ripping down a woman? She has 5 kids, a career, a husband she did not divorce (unlike you that apparently has gone through two of them) she sticks it out with a down syndrome child and you hate this woman? WTF?

BTW Obama has lied on more than one occasion about a fair number of things, same with Biden, same with McCain. Nothing you do will sway anybody not to vote for her. The only people you will convince are left of liberal progressives who wouldn't vote for her no matter what she stood for.

What you should be is ashamed. I see your web site and you apparently are for women's rights but it seems pretty apparent those rights are only for the women in your camp. Even if you don't like what she stands for how can you as a woman promote the horrible National Enquirer style rumors and lies perpetrated against Palin? How can you tolerate all that blatent misogyny? Palin evaluated on her hair, clothes, glasses, the comments that she as a mom should stay home and take care of the family... all from the left. You should be utterly ashamed of yourself for being an utter failure as a feminist and failure as a supporter of women's rights. Note that the right doesn't make accusations that Obama is sleeping with his daughters or that Michelle had a bastard love child. This stuff is dispicable and all you do is parrot it around because you are more interested in your agenda than your core, basic values as a woman. More interested in your hate based on the fact that you can't accept Bush won and instead think everyone cheats because the people who you thought should have won lost. How could you even be a part of this? Regardless of the woman's ethics, she's still a woman. Or do you side with that female comedian Sandra Bernhard that Palin should be gang raped? Only liberal women get rights?

Teleological ethics - google it. Its the thinking of children.

Women's rights are for ALL WOMEN not for the members of the liberal left. You don't own women nor do you speak for them and as long as you keep slinging mud all you will accomplish is give Palin enough to make a statue. You failed as a feminist, a liberal AND a woman.
Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

TheManOnTheStreet

Soooo, not only do feminist women hate her, but aparently so do some 'MRA' women....

Love it!  She's not who I am voting for anyhow.  I'm voting for the old white guy!

TMOTS
The Man On The Street is on the street for a reason.......
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