CAFC hints at major groundbreaking announcement

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Today, the California Alliance for Families and Children did a press release which heralded their success in causing a government Web site on domestic violence victims to move from acknowledging only female victims to instead becoming gender neutral.  The change came about in response to the February 2008 domestic violence conference that the organization sponsored.  In addition, CAFC alluded to its role in the recent victory case of Woods vs. Shewry, in which a California appellate court overturned state law that discriminated against male victims of domestic violence.

But most significantly, the CAFC hinted at a major groundbreaking development that could be just as significant as the Woods vs. Shewry ruling.  In its press release, the CAFC wrote:

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CAFC will soon be announcing an explosive update regarding some more major domestic violence reform that is currently in the works. If you were impressed with the change in language for the Safe at Homes Program Web site and our success in the Woods case, then you will be left breathless over what we promise will be a groundbreaking development. We cannot release any specifics yet, but we can say that it is a direct result of our historic domestic violence conference that we held in Sacramento last February 2008. Many representatives from various states' judiciary branches and criminal justice departments attended the conference. As a result, one state representative was so impressed with all of the evidence-based data and presentations, that they have completely redrafted their policy regarding domestic violence treatment programs, and the way domestic violence is viewed by all. We have seen the drafts for the reforms, and to say that they are a radical positive change is an understatement.


Again, to underscore the impending announcement, one state has completely redrafted their policy regarding domestic violence treatment programs.  Could this be the first domino that begins the end of the Duluth Model?

Men's Rights Activist

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Oct 24, 2008, 02:36 PM Last Edit: Oct 24, 2008, 02:40 PM by Men's Rights Activist
CAFC promised DVD copies of the conference they held back in February to attendees, as well as continuing education credits.  So far I've seen neither.  I would at least like a DVD of Erin Pizzy's speech.  It was very powerful and very historical.  To sit on this promised stuff, as CAFC is apparently doing, doesn't give me much confidence in anything CAFC is doing.  To sit on the information that came out of that conference, when that info could be used by colleges and others to educate and change things in the d.v. industry is very shortsighted of CAFC, IMO.
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

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So Ray, they helped get a state law overturned, a government Web site to go from biased on DV to gender neutral, and have now possibly gotten one outside state to abolish the Duluth model -- and you're focused on your DVD?

Men's Rights Activist

No John, all the DVD's that were promised, that should have been out in the hands of many people who have the power to educate the public about what was said at the conference, and don't forget the continuing education credits they promised to send out.  CAFC says a lot of things, but from what I've seen they don't follow up on it all.  That leaves me to wonder, "What exactly is it that I should believe?"
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

LSBeene

Hey, I like hope as much as the next guy, but he's right - proof that is tangible is better than good wishes and rhetoric.

Steven
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dr e


No John, all the DVD's that were promised, that should have been out in the hands of many people who have the power to educate the public about what was said at the conference, and don't forget the continuing education credits they promised to send out.  CAFC says a lot of things, but from what I've seen they don't follow up on it all.  That leaves me to wonder, "What exactly is it that I should believe?"


Have you contacted them MRA?  Are they just late in getting it our or are the going back on a promise?  I'd love a copy myself.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

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They have 10 DVDs done, and are doing one at a time so they can release the whole conference as a set.  They only have a couple more to do before they're done.  Nobody donated anything toward the production of the DVDs, which is several thousand dollars.  The only donations related to the conference were given more than 8 months ago, and were only applied to the immense cost of the conference itself.  So they've been scraping by, trying to get these DVDs professionally produced by a professional with Final Cut Pro.  That's the reason for the delay on the DVDs -- lack of money.  So it's not about "sitting" on the information.  Rather, it's about putting together DVDs of sufficient professional quality so that state and local court administrators, and family court professionals, around the country can have training materials that will produce a significant impact in how accused men and violent women are treated.

dr e


10 DVD's?  How many hours are they doing? Why not do a "best of" disk and get it done. They should be able to get 4 hours or so on one DVD.  It shouldn't take thousands of dollars, should it?  Lots of college students are people interested in the subject who could edit it down on Final Cut Pro or Premiere.  Better idea might be to sell it online prior and use the "pre-sales" as money to get the job done.  I know I would buy one.  Get 40 people who will pre-pay $30 and you got $1200 to work with.


They have 10 DVDs done, and are doing one at a time so they can release the whole conference as a set.  They only have a couple more to do before they're done.  Nobody donated anything toward the production of the DVDs, which is several thousand dollars.  The only donations related to the conference were given more than 8 months ago, and were only applied to the immense cost of the conference itself.  So they've been scraping by, trying to get these DVDs professionally produced by a professional with Final Cut Pro.  That's the reason for the delay on the DVDs -- lack of money.  So it's not about "sitting" on the information.  Rather, it's about putting together DVDs of sufficient professional quality so that state and local court administrators, and family court professionals, around the country can have training materials that will produce a significant impact in how accused men and violent women are treated.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

outdoors

abolishing the duluth model(hate wheel)? WOW!!!


My turn to do it here.

Libertariandadd

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abolishing the duluth model(hate wheel)? WOW!!!

Keeping fingers crossed.  :greener:
'It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.' George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

outdoors

this story gave me an incredible idea!!!

i am working on a city by-law to ban any use of the duluth model in my town as it is presumptuous,descimintory and full of lies.
I wonder if it will get passed?

dr e

That is a great idea!  Even if it never passes it puts the idea on the table and exposes the bigotry up front.  If you can get a little media exposure all the better.  I wonder if RADAR might be interested in documenting what you are doing in order to help others around the country to do the same thing.  I know I am going to look into it.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

outdoors

went intothe city office yesterday--i have to do a draft of a lay-out for my reasoning and purpose

outdoors

rough draft;


new by-law;

  I am proposing to the city leaders to ban the Dulth model(power wheel) from use in the City of Dryden and to make a by-law enforcing it.
This is an idealogical one-sided model for domestic anti-violence which puts the blame and shame and stereotype exclusively on men,which we all know is just not true.
This so-called power wheel which i will give an example of,is descriminatory,misandric,presumptuous and full of lies.They
promote a stereotype that only men are violent to a spouse or child.
  This duluth model has absolutely no scientific evidence that it works and is usually taught by wounded healers,does not include,mental illness, drugs or alcohol as a contributing factor only blaming MEN as being at fault.
The Equality wheel which i will also give an example of,is more based on equality and getting along and is not hateful or does not put blame towards either gender.
If the city does not agree that the Power wheel is hatefully misandric and should be banned from use, then we can only come to the conclusion that the city leaders also feel it is ok to hate,blame,shame and deny resources to men and fathers for no other reason than the fact that they are men.
Banning the power wheel with-in city limits would show that this city does really care about men and fathers and not just add to the hatefullness and lies, the domestic violence industry promotes on a daily basis to our children,even in our schools.

With men and fathers being equally abused in households as much as women blaming one gender for all domestic violence is nothing but pure misandry.
Help for women and jail for men is just wong.

I also believe it is unconstitutional and against the charter of rights to have resources for one gender and denied the other.As a matter of fact-these resources are now being reviewed and declared unconstitutional in some states,and are now working their way to Canada.(right here)

  If a determined few can make a difference, you also can.


What research actually shows


a. Women initiate at least as much partner violence as do men;
women's violence is not mostly in self-defence.

b. Attempts to harm a partner, on average, are at least as severe
when committed by women as when by men.

c. Of the serious physical harm resulting from partner violence,
including death, men suffer from 20% to 35%.

d. Even in intact families, mothers do at least as much battering
of children and killing of children as fathers do.

e. The percentage of violent partners whose motive is power/control
is at least as high for women as for men.

f. The percentage of women who feel "entitled by gender" to abuse
their partners is higher than that of men.

g. The main cause of extreme partner violence is substance abuse
and personality disorders, not male culture.

h. A major cause of substance abuse and personality disorder is
being physically/emotionally abused as a child.

i. Another major source of violence (also school dropout, drug
use, teen pregnancy) is father-loss in childhood.

j. Children denied their biological father become much more at
risk of abuse (by the mother or her new man). k. A large percentage
of men who do hate women were either raised without fathers or else
abused by women.

l. 1/3 as many biological mothers as fathers commit sex abuse; 1/3
as many dating girls as boys sexually assault

m. For centuries, our culture has felt much more concern over harm
to females than over equal harm to males.
 
  Consequences of the anti-male, anti-father stereotyping regarding
family violence


a. Abusive wives and mothers are encouraged to remain abusive
rather than getting help to change.

b. Children and fathers victimized by violent or abusive women are
not receiving help or protection.

c. Abusive marriages that could be healed--particularly those with
mutually abusive couples, which account

for half of all partner violence--are instead encouraged to
break up by the one-sided and extreme blaming.

d. Abusive women are encouraged to make false accusations that he
is abusive. In separation and divorce, the

stereotype makes police, judges and others believe her without
investigating; the result is massive injustice.

e. Like a tormented dog, humans can become violent when subjected
to horrid injustice--yet the great majority
of men who kill for this reason kill only themselves. Surely,
if as many mothers as fathers were being ripped
from their children by lies and injustice, many more women
would kill spouses or children than now do so.

What you can do that WILL help heal family violence: promote
facts, not stereotypes


Educate yourself! The actual facts about abuse and violence
are readily available. Because it is politically incorrect to
publicize them, however, you must go to the scientific research, not
depend on the news media.

Speak out! People who do so, especially men in high positions,
will be accused by the ideologues of protecting male power and
privilege, or at least of not caring about harm to women. But think
about what the continued poison will do to your son or your daughter.
And think of the horrible harm it is causing daily in our society.


outdoors

 any suggestions?

i gotta be a little careful as my ex's father is a city councilor and was raised by his mother--so u should already know where he stands.

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