Objectivists endorsed Betty Friedan?????

Started by Amber, Nov 18, 2003, 12:33 AM

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Amber

NOOOO!!!!!  Say it isn't so!!!!  :bawling:  :cry:  :bawling:

Betty Friedan was a member of the Communist Party of the United States - did they know that ?????

http://www.objectivistcenter.org/articles/bregister_ayn-rand-feminist.asp

"In 1963, The Objectivist Newsletter printed a positive review by Edith Efron of what many regard as the founding document of contemporary feminism, Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique. "

"The Role of Betty Friedan
In her 1963 review of The Feminine Mystique, Edith Efron hints at an answer that runs deeper than these trends. Efron notes that Friedan's book is predominantly individualist in tone and advocates the training and independent employment of women's rational faculties in productive work. The mystique of which Friedan writes was the notion, sustained by neo-Freudian psychologists, that women are naturally maternal, that the development of their minds through sustained education stunts their sexual impulses and child-rearing capacities. Having a career, Friedan reports, was viewed by the mystique as something for men; a woman was to find her satisfaction through her children, her husband, and homemaking. Friedan relies on humanistic psychologists such as Abraham Maslow and Erik Erikson to support her claim that persons find satisfaction primarily in a career or career-like endeavor.
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Amber

You know what.  I think a lot of Objectivist women are fucking nuts.  Not all of them, but in particular the Kellyist ones.  There is a David Kelly/Leonard Peikoff split in the Objectivist movement (of which I know nothing about), but to make things simple - Kelly strikes me as being very liberal-like and Peikoff is more right-wing-like.  That article from the objectivist center (Kelley runs this) pissed me off.  It brought back all sorts of horrid memories of Objectivist women I've met in the past.  It really speaks volumes that they were just as easily woo'ed by Rand as they were by Betty Friedan.  

These are women that are in complete denial of who they are as women.  They are some of the most matriarchal thugs on the face of the planet.  Of course the grrrl power message of feminism appealed to them.  And you know what.  These feminist-sympathetic women are some of the most incompetent on earth.  That's true of most feminists, though.

The only Objectivist women I've ever liked were strong advocates of masculine men and feminine women, especially Sandra Shaw.  I like the women at the Independent Women's Forum too - except not the overly pretentious ones.  They are women who, above all things - don't hate that they are women.

I hate that book - Feminist Interpretations of Ayn Rand.  It is seriously time to give Objectivism another boost, and to advocate rational gender relations, which embrace who/what women and men are, not pro-feminist, so-called individualist drivel.
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

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