Itís Fun to be a Woman

Started by Amber, Nov 21, 2003, 11:02 AM

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Men, which do you prefer:  the feminine or hot woman?

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Amber

It's Fun to be a Woman

Ever since my work dealing with femininity, in particular a piece I wrote called, "Feminine or Feminist," people have come to me and asked me what I mean by "feminine."  Let me now define that by comparing two different things:  the feminine woman versus the "hot" woman.

Femininity is not just looking pretty, wearing high heels, or dressing in skirts.  These things can and do play a part of it, but it is not the essence of femininity.  Indeed, one can easily name a host of attractive women who are not feminine.

Femininity is not so much anything as it is a state of mind.  Most importantly, femininity is a woman who embraces, relishes, and enjoys the fact that she is a woman.  

Femininity is an essence, a behavior, a choice, a spirituality.  Being hot and sexy is not spiritual; it is primarily bodily.  Femininity is a certain state of mind; being hot is having certain ideal characteristics.  The feminine woman may or may not have ideal physical characteristics.  The hot woman always does; it is the essence of her lusty sexual appeal.  

This is not to say that the feminine woman necessarily is unattractive.  Indeed a host of attractive woman are feminine, and this creates a dynamic combination.  It also doesn't mean that a feminine woman doesn't take care of her body - she should maintain her body, all as part of loving her bodily nature as a woman - but perfectly ideal female characteristics is not a requirement to be a feminine woman.  

This is drawn out by the fact that I've seen and known women in their 70s who are more feminine than many younger women, especially younger women today.  I've seen women who are in their 70s who still draw into themselves to laugh in a distinctly girly way; who still wear their favorite red lipstick; who still thank and affirm men profusely when they give up their bus seat for her.  Feminnity is an action, a way of being - that is largely irrelevant of how good of a feature God may have given to any woman.  

Another major difference between the feminine woman and the hot woman is the feminine woman ages gracefully.  She understands her path as a woman involves growing from young into old; from a Miss to a Mrs.; daughter to a mother.  These are all part of her natural course as a woman.  The hot woman is insistent on keeping a youthful ideal with botox, plastic surgery, and my personal pet peeve:  women who are 60+ and keep long hair.  These women aren't just in denial of who they are as women, but as older women.  In an ironic twist, it is the feminine woman who actually retains a youthful glow to her.  

A feminine woman is likely to keep a thin layer of body fat on her body.  This doesn't make her look fat; it makes her look soft.  The hot woman is likely to drive to 0% body fat; rock hard abs; chiseled arms.

A feminine woman tends to be modest.  The hot woman is likely to dress in mid drifts and daisy dukes.  The feminine woman loves her body:  why would she reveal it to just anybody?  The feminine versus the hot woman is the difference between sensual and slutty.  

For a feminine woman, there is no breach, at all, between her actions and who she is, metaphysically, as a woman.  She embraces reality - who she is as a woman, her delicate skin, her soft face, her shape, her breasts.  Yes, make up and dressing nice are a part of it, but only to accentuate, highlight, and idealize those features which make her a woman.  

Femininity is something that is exclusive to women.  Men cannot revel in the fact that they are women for obvious reasons.  Many will have you believe that masculinity and femininity is something that either gender can be.  But, in fact, if any given trait can rationally exist in either gender, it was not a "masculine" trait or a "feminine" trait to begin with.  Only women can be feminine.  Only men can be masculine.  

This is what I mean by femininity:  a woman who says, "I love being a woman!!"
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Teddy_Roosevelt

I need an option that says "nice mix of both".
Respect is not a civil right; it is an attitude of approval and admiration. No one can claim a "right" to the emotional or intellectual approval of anyone else. " - That I-feminist who writes for foxnews.com

Amber

Quote from: "Teddy_Roosevelt"
I need an option that says "nice mix of both".


Always Mr. Moderate ... :roll:  ;) :D
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Nichov

I'm with vader, there's no way you're gonna get me to choose one or the other on that one.
Society does not have the right to discriminate against victims of domestic violence because of their gender."  - www.amen.ie

Nichov

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"being hot is having certain ideal characteristics. "

A finer point here, is that whether a girl is 'hot' or not has less to do with how she looks than with how someone else sees her, so whether a person finds a woman attractive could actually have just as much to do with the femininity as you're describing it as it does with her actual physical appearance...

there have been 'big-boned' girls who I found more attractive than certain 'thin' girls based on their attitude/personality/habits (basically, she was more feminine)
Society does not have the right to discriminate against victims of domestic violence because of their gender."  - www.amen.ie

Bilbo

Quote from: "Amber"
Men cannot revel in the fact that they are women for obvious reasons.



Deep.
It is impossible to reason a man out of something he was never reasoned into in the first place- Swift

"The cardinal principle of judicial restraint--if it is not necessary to decide more, it is necessary not to decide more."

Nichov

But can men revel in the fact that they are men?
Society does not have the right to discriminate against victims of domestic violence because of their gender."  - www.amen.ie

Amber

Quote from: "Nichov"
Quote:
"being hot is having certain ideal characteristics. "

A finer point here, is that whether a girl is 'hot' or not has less to do with how she looks than with how someone else sees her, so whether a person finds a woman attractive could actually have just as much to do with the femininity as you're describing it as it does with her actual physical appearance...

there have been 'big-boned' girls who I found more attractive than certain 'thin' girls based on their attitude/personality/habits (basically, she was more feminine)


Big boned or not ... they are still most definitely women.  

Face it Nichov, there are certain hard and fast traits the separate men and women.  Objectively definable traits that make ALL women - women, and ALL men - men.  There are no "shades of grey."  Some might even say recognizing this is sexist.  :D
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Amber

I don't include any "mixed" option because I don't think the two different types can exist in the same woman.  A woman can't keep a thin layer of body fat and have 0% body fat at the same time.  She cannot be modest and slutty at the same time.  By definition, it's a contradiction.
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Amber

The men at protest warriors don't waste any time, pussy footing around to make a decision.

Men, which do you prefer: the feminine or 'hot' woman?
Feminine woman    
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Hot woman    
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Total Votes : 4

"How can anyone vote otherwise after reading your post? Honestly, a hot woman isn't worth anything if she doesn't have the right attitude. She may be nice for a viewing object, but I wouldn't want to hang around. My girlfriend is both hot and feminine. Perfect combination "



:D
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Galt

<<She cannot be modest and slutty at the same time.>>

Lady in public and slut in the bedroom?  That's both.  That's usually a sought-after type by men, as I understand it.

nebulousone

When I think of a hot woman, it's never a woman with abs of steel.  Many men I know feel the same way, they like a woman to look like a woman, not like a man with boobs.

To me, the hottest women are those who are feminine and sexy and enjoy it.  

I guess to me the two terms are synonymous.
i]Most folks are as happy as they make up their minds to be.[/i]
~Abraham Lincoln

Amber

I specifically say the 'hot' woman wears mid drifts and daisy dukes which means her behavior is something she is doing in *public*.  I am comparing what the feminine woman does in public and what the hot woman does in public.

A modest woman like myself doesn't discuss what she does in the bedroom.  :D  ;)   :pinocchio:
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

nebulousone

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Lady in public and slut in the bedroom? That's both. That's usually a sought-after type by men, as I understand it.


:yes:
i]Most folks are as happy as they make up their minds to be.[/i]
~Abraham Lincoln

Galt

<<A modest woman like myself doesn't discuss what she does in the bedroom.>>

LOL

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