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RADAR ALERT: McGill University Student Newspaper Smears RADAR


In December, The McGill Tribune, published by the McGill University Students' Society, printed an article (included below) that made false statements about RADAR (Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting). A few days later, the Tribune's editor promised to retract the most offensive claim.  But even with that claim retracted, the article still paints a misleading portrait of RADAR.  So he also said he might consider publishing an op-ed by RADAR to correct the other misinformation about the reasons RADAR exists.

RADAR did submit a response, but of necessity it was much longer than the Tribune's length limit for an op-ed.  That's because the information RADAR knows about is not common knowledge, so for us to simply state a position without backing it up with facts would not make a credible case.  After weeks of inquiries as to whether or not the Tribune will be publishing our response, we learned just recently that they will not.

Here's the article the Tribune will not be printing.




Why RADAR Is Needed
Mark Rosenthal Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting (RADAR)


The 12/1/2009 article www.mcgilltribune.com/media/storage/paper234/news/2009/12/01/Opinion/Off-The.Board.The.Fight.For.Mens.Rights-3842224.shtml]"OFF THE BOARD: The fight for men's rights"[/url]1 by Carolyn Gregoire repeated claims about RADAR (Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting) from an article in Slate.com's DoubleX.  Although the DoubleX article contained more misrepresentation than fact, at least that author interviewed her subjects.  Ms. Gregiore not only failed to do that, but also added embellishments of her own, which caused the Tribune's editor to append an apology.  This article was composed to counter the misrepresentation and enlighten the Tribune's readers about what RADAR is really all about, but the Tribune has declined to publish it.

First of all, we are not a Men's Rights group, as those working against us like to claim.  As our mission statement says, RADAR is dedicated to improving the effectiveness of solutions to the problem of domestic violence.  RADAR has always been as concerned about women abused by the system as about men.  If we seem to be advocating more for men than for women, that's a reflection of the ways that DV policies are badly broken, not a reflection of our underlying philosophy.

On a personal note, I must object to the statement, "RADAR chooses to undermine the prevalence of rape and domestic violence against women." Far from wishing to deny women protection, one of my primary motivations is to see to it that no other children suffer the fate that befell my sister – a matter I've touched on in many of my compositions,2 most notably "Don't Put Your Trust In Movements"3.

Due to decades of one-sided reporting on domestic violence, explaining the issues RADAR is concerned about often feels like telling someone, "Everything you know is wrong!"  In fact, DV policy in the U.S. (and Canada too) is not the solution its supporters claim.  All too often, it causes harm even as it fails to help those it purports to help.

Shelters are not the refuges from abuse that people think

Many shelters keep their beds full by taking in alcoholics and drug abusers who often place other residents at risk.  In Florida, Milaus Almore was killed by a knife-wielding shelter resident.  Shelter staff had ignored reports of earlier death threats made by the killer4.

In Massachusetts, Nev Moore's nightmare was not the time her husband got drunk and pushed her during an argument.  It was a year later when the Massachusetts DSS used that incident as an excuse to seize her 8-year-old daughter and coerce the mother to attend a battered women's support group under threat of permanent loss of her child.  Moore says the group's facilitators "encouraged women to stay stuck in the victim mentality"5, and that the primary motivation is not to help the women heal and move on with their lives, but to maximize the shelter's income.

One Ontario abuse victim describes how she and other residents were subjected to sexual advances by the staff6, and penalized by the staff for spurning their advances.  (Watch 33:20-36:04)Exposing the morally corrupt women's shelter industry ONE VIDEO AT A TIME!

Canadian immigration sent a Russian immigrant who was not abused to a battered women's shelter for the free food and lodging.  This woman also reports being sexually preyed upon by the shelter staff7. (Watch 16:46-20:15) Exposing the women's shelter industry ONE VIDEO AT A TIME!

A little girl who stayed at a battered women's shelter with her mother found the shelter itself to be a violent place8. (Watch 5:55-8:28) Exposing the morally corrupt women's shelter industry - one video at a time! A child's perspective.

Safeguards against false claims have been weakened to the point of virtual non-existence

In 2005, Coleen Nestler filed for a restraining order against David Letterman, claiming Letterman had used code-words, gestures, and "eye expressions" on his nationally televised show to send messages to Nestler alone. Her application9 asked the court to order Letterman not to "Think of me, and RELEASE ME from his mental harassment & hammering."  Despite the absurdity of the claims, Judge Daniel Sanchez granted the order.  When asked by a reporter if he might have made a mistake, he stated that he had read Nestler's application10. Sanchez is no ordinary judge. He's Chairman of the Northern New Mexico Domestic Violence Task Force11.  Sanchez' actions are the model that other judges look to when deciding the appropriate way to handle an obviously absurd accusation.

In the Letterman case, the accuser was clearly out of touch with reality.  But what happens when unscrupulous people simply want the benefits the government intends for the abused. A recent New York Times article12 headlined "Domestic Abuse Fraud: It's Rarely Suspected and Rarely Detected" reported on women who lied about having been abused in order to move to the front of the subsidized housing queue.  Without providing any evidence to back the claim, the article asserts that such cases are rare.  At the same time, the article also quotes a shelter director admitting that the system is not set up to catch people committing fraud, so they can't possibly know that cases like this are rare.  If getting a break on housing costs is enough to induce some women to lie about being abused, there can be little doubt that the many benefits intended for women who truly have been abused also induce unscrupulous non-abused women to falsely accuse innocent men.

In his article "Erring on the Side of Hidden Harm"13 N.J. attorney David Heleniak explains that in addition to the merits of any particular restraining order application, judges worry about the potential damage to their careers if their name should end up in the headlines because they denied a restraining order and the applicant was later harmed.  A restraining order often physically prevents children from having access to their father except under supervised visitation, an unnatural setting that clearly tells the child that their father is a dangerous person.  Princeton Sociology Professor Sara McLanahan has found that "Father absence clearly diminishes a child's prospects for success in adult life."14 So, when judges issue thousands of unnecessary restraining orders against innocent fathers, they're not "erring on the side of safety" as they claim.  They're choosing the harm that won't damage their careers over the harm that will.

Honest And Objective Scientific Research Has Been Warped To Produce Politically Desired Results

Fields of study like sociology and psychology are much more difficult to quantify than fields like physics and chemistry, making it much easier for "researchers" with an agenda to manipulate the results. Unfortunately, such manipulation is commonplace in domestic violence research.

One researcher who strives to hold himself and his field of study to a higher standard is Murray Straus, one of the world's leading authorities on family violence.  His work from the early 1970s onward is what made the study of family violence a legitimate topic for scientific research.  Straus recently published "Processes Explaining the Concealment and Distortion of Evidence on Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence"15 which lists the following ways he's seen researchers distort DV research over the past 40 years:
  • Suppress Evidence
  • Avoid Obtaining Data Inconsistent with the Patriarchal Dominance Theory
  • Cite Only Studies That Show Male Perpetration
  • Conclude That Results Support Feminist Beliefs When They Do Not
  • Create "Evidence" by Citation
  • Obstruct Publication of Articles and Obstruct Funding Research That Might Contradict the Idea that Male Dominance Is the Cause of Partner Violence
  • Harass, Threaten, and Penalize Researchers Who Produce Evidence That Contradicts Feminist Beliefs


Straus concludes the article:
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"Finally, it was painful for me as feminist to write this commentary. I have done so for two reasons. First, I am also a scientist and, for this issue, my scientific commitments overrode my feminist commitments. Perhaps even more important, I believe that the safety and well being of women requires efforts to end violence by women and the option to treat partner violence in some cases as a problem of psychopathology, or in the great majority of cases, as a family system problem."


In 1975 and 1985, Straus worked with Richard Gelles, and Suzanne Steinmetz to conduct the National Family Violence Survey for the National Institute of Health.  Gelles, now Dean of the School of Social Policy & Practice at the University of Pennsylvania, recalls16:
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"The response to our finding that the rate of female-to-male family violence was equal to the rate of male-to-female violence not only produced heated scholarly criticism, but intense and long-lasting personal attacks.  All three of us received death threats.  Bomb threats were phoned in to conference centers and buildings where we were scheduled to present.  Suzanne received the brunt of the attacks - individuals wrote and called her university urging that she be denied tenure; calls were made and letters were written to government agencies urging that her grant funding be rescinded."


Univ. of British Columbia Psychology Professor Donald Dutton is world-reknowned in the field of spousal violence, and has served as an expert witness in family violence cases, including testifying for the prosecution in the O.J. Simpson trial.  In his article "Transforming a flawed policy: A call to revive psychology and science in domestic violence research and practice"17 Dutton criticizes the theory (known as the Duluth Model) that all domestic violence is a product of "patriarchal beliefs".  He writes (p. 477)
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"It is unfortunate that a once pioneering model has become an impediment to effective program and criminal justice responses to domestic violence.  ... The Duluth model ... maintains that unlike the bulk of similar aggressive criminal behaviors (e.g., assault, child abuse, elder abuse), violence perpetrated toward women is influenced in no way by social marginalization or psychosocial deficits, but rather is solely a product of gender privilege."


Dutton concludes:
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"Those with continued allegiance to the patriarchal view should stand back and ask themselves if their primary motivation is to advance the safety of women and families or to preserve a self-interested political stance."


Discrimination

The OFF THE BOARD article accuses RADAR of attempting "to take funding away from 'discriminatory' women's-only shelters, rather than fighting for resources for male victims of domestic violence and sexual harassment". Had the writer done her homework, she'd have discovered that people have been "fighting for resources for male victims of domestic violence" for decades, and for just as long it's been the people running the women's shelters who've been playing the role of George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. Since the late 1970s, women-only shelters have used their huge political clout to prevent the allocation of any resources for male victims, and have made it impossible for men in need of help to find any help.

One example of this is the experience of Pat Overberg, who ran the Valley Oasis Shelter (VOS) outside L.A. for much of the 1980s and 1990s.  In a 2002 affidavit18, she recounts the hostile and unprofessional way she was treated by directors of other shelters for the transgression of offering help to men as well as women.  VOS was the only shelter in the nation that offered help to men, so many men traveled great distances to get help. Overberg states, "During my tenure as director of VOS I was subjected to continuous abuse by other directors for sheltering battered men." At a government-sponsored fact-finding meeting, the chairwoman, who was also director of a battered women's shelter tried to silence Overberg whenever she raised the issue of the need to provide services for battered men.  And although every other issue discussed in the meeting made it into the minutes, the minutes contained no indication that the issue had even been raised.

Besides their long history of obstructing the provision of help to battered men, existing battered women's programs' insistence on believing that women can never be abusive causes them to empower such women rather than giving them appropriate treatment, thereby putting the children of abusive mothers in grave danger.

Conclusion

RADAR is concerned about serious issues.  We're hardly the caricature of intolerance that Ms. Gregoire portrays us as.  Far from it. RADAR's primary concern is that interventions are too often ineffective, inappropriate, or both.  The help offered to victims encourages them to stay stuck in a victim mentality rather than to heal.  The innocent are as likely to be penalized as the guilty.  And too many service providers are handsomely compensated for peddling snake-oil.

As our mission statement says, RADAR is dedicated to improving the effectiveness of solutions to the problem of domestic violence.


1 "OFF THE BOARD: The fight for men's rights" , Carolyn Gregoire, McGill Tribune, Dec. 1, 2009, www.mcgilltribune.com/media/storage/paper234/news/2009/12/01/Opinion/Off-The.Board.The.Fight.For.Mens.Rights-3842224.shtml] LINK ]http://media.www.mcgilltribune.com/media/storage/paper234/news/2009/12/01/Opinion/Off-The.Board.The.Fight.For.Mens.Rights-3842224.shtml] Link
2 Mark's Personal Writings, http://www.breakingthescience.org/#personal
3 "Don't Put Your Trust In Movements", http://www.breakingthescience.org/DontPutYourTrustInMovements.php
4 Florida Coalition Against Domestic Violence, Safespace, Inc. Homicide Incident, Management Review, http://web.tcpalm.com/2007/11/10/safespace.pdf
5 Inside A 'Batterers Program' for 'Abused' Women, http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0729moore.html
6 Interview with former resident of Ontario battered women's shelter discussing being subjected to sexual advances by the shelter staff. Watch 33 min. 20 sec. to 36 min. 4 sec., www. vimeo .com/745927
7 Interview with Russian immigrant sent by Canadian immigration to a battered women's shelter for the free food and lodging discussing being sexually preyed upon by the shelter staff. Watch 16 min. 46 sec. to 20 min. 15 sec., www. vimeo .com/790290
8 Interview with young shelter resident. Watch 5 min. 55 sec. to 8 min. 28 sec., www. vimeo .com/864606
9 Colleen Nestler vs. David Letterman, Application for a Restraining Order, http://volokh.com/files/lettermanapp.pdf
10 Letterman lawyers: End Santa Fe claim, Santa Fe New Mexican, Dec. 21, 2005, http://web.archive.org/web/20060101201517/http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/36651.html
11 Judge Daniel Sanchez, State of New Mexico, First Judicial District Court, Division VII, http://firstdistrictcourt.com/Division%207.htm
12 Domestic Abuse Fraud: It's Rarely Suspected and Rarely Detected, New York Times, p. A28, October 23, 2009, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/nyregion/23domestic.html
13 Erring on the Side of Hidden Harm, David Heleniak, Associated Content, March 20, 2007, http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/175557/erring_on_the_side_of_hidden_harm_the.html
14 Father Absence and the Welfare of Children, Sara McLanahan, MacArthur Research Network on the Family and the Economy, http://apps.olin.wustl.edu/macarthur/working%20papers/wp-mclanahan2.htm
15 Processes Explaining the Concealment and Distortion of Evidence on Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence, Murray Straus, European Journal of Criminal Policy Research, 2007, pp. 13:227-232, http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf
16 The Missing Persons of Domestic Violence: Battered Men, Richard J Gelles, The Women's Quarterly, 1999, Independent Women's Forum, http://breakingthescience.org/RichardGelles_MissingPersonsOfDV.php
17 Transforming a flawed policy: A call to revive psychology and science in domestic violence research and practice, Donald G. Dutton & Kenneth Corvo, Aggression and Violent Behavior, 2006, pp. 457-483, http://www.mediaradar.org/docs/Dutton_Corvo-Transforming-flawed-policy.pdf
18 Affidavit of Patricia Overberg, MSW, Nov. 1, 2002, http://www.ncfmla.org/pdf/overberg.pdf




Here is the article showing how it originally appeared and the changes made after RADAR contacted the editor.

The McGill Tribune, 12/1/2009
OFF THE BOARD: The fight for men's rights
by Carolyn Gregoire


Discrimination against men has, understandably perhaps, never occupied a prominent position on the feminist agenda. Recently, however, the rise of the men's rights movement has led men's rights groups and feminists alike to call issues specific to male identity into question. A recent article on Slate's women-oriented webzine DoubleX entitled "Men's Rights Groups are Becoming Frighteningly Effective" has spurred contentious debate extending beyond the feminist blogosphere as to whether feminism should encompass issues of men's rights.

The article was triggered by the actions of men's activist group RADAR (Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting) who gathered in Washington this October to lobby against issues such as false allegations of rape and domestic violence, unrecognized domestic violence against men, and child custody rights for divorced fathers.

Many women, and not only those who identify as feminists, are outraged by the measures these groups have taken. Rather than addressing the negative impact that patriarchy and gender stereotypes have on men and calling for change, RADAR chooses instead to undermine the prevalence of rape and domestic violence against women. Relying on hyperbolic claims and sensationalism - suggesting, for instance, that domestic violence laws represent "the largest regression in civil rights since the Jim Crow era" - RADAR succeeded in blocking the [strikethrough]passage[/strikethrough] expansion of several domestic violence bills, such as the Violence Against Women act. [*Correction appended] [strikethrough]It is also worth noting that many of the movement's leaders are themselves accused batterers.[/strikethrough]

Though issues of men's rights and injustice towards men deserve attention, the anti-feminist approach employed by RADAR and many other men's rights groups in battling these issues is counterproductive and alarmingly reactionary. RADAR's attempt to take funding away from "discriminatory" women's-only shelters, rather than fighting for resources for male victims of domestic violence and sexual harassment, epitomizes this ineffectual methodology.

While it's true that all human rights are men's rights and that history is essentially a men's rights movement, discrimination against men should be a feminist concern because male and female rights are inextricably intertwined. Though a patriarchal society operates for male benefit, societal standards of masculinity are also harmful to men in real ways which deserve to be acknowledged. Rigid definitions of masculinity which narrowly cast men into aggressive, machismo, bread-winning roles are damaging to men, and further, they are damaging to men in ways that are also damaging to women. Following this line of reasoning, many feminists fight for fathers' rights as a means of countering the socially sanctioned notion that nurturer or caregiver must be a female-occupied role. A central objective of the feminist movement is debunking gender stereotypes, even when they apply only to men.

Male victims of sexual harassment, domestic violence, and rape deserve to be recognized and taken seriously, mothers should not be unjustly favoured over fathers in child custody proceedings, and individuals of both genders do not deserve to be systemically limited and harmed by rigid social definitions of masculinity. Feminist concerns and men's rights are not mutually exclusive, and should meet on the common ground of seeking gender equality - the irony of it all is that we're both fighting the same battle. As feminist Gloria Anzaldua suggests, "Men, even more than women, are fettered to gender roles ... We need a new masculinity and the new man needs a movement."


Correction: The article's original version claimed that RADAR had blocked the passage of several domestic violence bills, including the Violence Against Women act. In fact, RADAR helped block the expansion of these bills. Also, the Tribune apologizes for previously claiming that many of RADAR's leaders were accused batterers.




Date of RADAR Release: March 1, 2010

R.A.D.A.R. -- Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting -- is a non-profit, non-partisan organization of men and women working to improve the effectiveness of our nation's approach to solving domestic violence.  http://www.mediaradar.org
           



Copyright (c) 2005-2010. RADAR -- Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.

       

PaulGuelph

If feminists want the Men's Movement to stop attacking them, they should think about stopping their attacks against men. They can work with us and be our allies any time they want. But they would never do that, so let them reap what they sow.
Men's Movie Guide:  http://www.mensmovieguide.com   The Healing Tomb: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081N1X145

dr e


If feminists want the Men's Movement to stop attacking them, they should think about stopping their attacks against men. They can work with us and be our allies any time they want. But they would never do that, so let them reap what they sow.



But Paul!  <best whiny voice>  We are only attacking the patriarchy! Not men!

It's the same horseshit you see with the male feminists talking about hegemonic masculinity.  They claim it is not men they despise, its the masculinity.  To me it just seems like a safe way to male bash and blame men for every conceivable problem. 

Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

Men's Rights Activist

Many women, and not only those who identify as feminists, are outraged by the measures these groups have taken. Rather than addressing the negative impact that patriarchy and gender stereotypes have on men and calling for change, RADAR chooses instead to undermine the prevalence of rape and domestic violence against women. Relying on hyperbolic claims and sensationalism - suggesting, for instance, that domestic violence laws represent "the largest regression in civil rights since the Jim Crow era"

Yea, duh.

The facade above this appeals court in Sacrament says, "Into the highlands of the mind let me go." It's located just below the relief and above the columns. This is the building where Mr. Angelucci prevailed in the Woods v. Shewry case on appeal. It was a great decision for the rights of battered men, acknowledging that California's domestic violence laws had not been equally protecting men seeking shelter. As wonderful as this decision was, it had one significant flaw, in my opinion. The judges said that, men should not be denied d.v. services,, but the services did not necessarily have to be exactly equal and could remain separate. This decision would be akin to a judge in the south in the 1960's ruling that separate restrooms and water fountains would be fine for blacks and the back of the bus would be adequate transportation. This decision was wonderful work on the part of NCFM and Mr. Angelucci, but men still have a ways to go before they receive equality in law, protection, rights, justice, and services comparable to women (especially in the area of domestic violence law), IMO.

Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Men's Rights Activist

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Mar 01, 2010, 12:04 AM Last Edit: Mar 01, 2010, 12:18 AM by Men's Rights Activist
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Though a patriarchal society operates for male benefit...


Hogwash!  Liar!
:pino:

That's one of the top ten addled statements I've heard in a long time.

Women comprise the majority of the electorate and those in power, men and women, pander to women's issues to the exclusion of men, all the way from man-hating legislation like VAWA to corporate advertising that bashes:  dads, men, and boys.  From the ballot box to the bedroom many women are brutal abusers of their power and control and few women will even admit it's going on.
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

Men's Rights Activist

Almost every sentence in that student newspaper rant starts off with an inaccurate and bigoted premise that bashes men.  No wonder gender feminism is often associated with being a hate movement.  What she labels as outrageous hyperbole, or some such, is merely an accurate description of gender feminist atrocities.  I doubt she has seen innocent men's lives broken by the gender feminist agenda as we have.  If she thinks the claims of MRA's are outrageous, then how much more so is the reality that gender feminism behaves like a hate movement -  OFTEN UNDER COLOR OF LAW.



Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

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It's the same horseshit you see with the male feminists talking about hegemonic masculinity.  They claim it is not men they despise, its the masculinity.



could it be that male feminists despise maculinity for a reason?

seems to me that a lot of women are attracted to masculine men

maybe they despise maculinity because women are not attracted to them-themselves ...so maybe this is the reason they are male feminists..in hopes they can get laid?

get rid of masulinity and women will have no choice but to date these self-loathing mangina's

CaptDMO

Oooo...have the sophomores, brainwashed by the same sort of "special groups" found in
the stage/film production of "Oliana", been encouraged to implant themselves as workers in the school paper where they can get more unmerited "ink" (Than say..a peer reviewed thesis) in response to the excoriating exposees put forth by diverse McGill Profs. Nathanson and Young?

Can we  expect more of such student "news"paper tripe from  impressionable young minds, in response to the  efforts put fourth by Dr. Murray Strauss at The University of New Hampshire?

Is Penis envy/hetrophobia STILL an "elective" in the "science" of humanities?

Who's pays these folks tuition/room/board at (including, but not limitred to) McGill (and UNH?)

But...but...it's educational! Leading to a career in um... a "media" internship for
Suze Orman/Nancy Grace/ or ANY of the General Electric entertainment folk.       

Sir Jessy of Anti




RADAR ALERT: McGill University Student Newspaper Smears RADAR


In December, The McGill Tribune, published by the McGill University Students' Society, printed an article (included below) that made false statements about RADAR (Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting). A few days later, the Tribune's editor promised to retract the most offensive claim.  But even with that claim retracted, the article still paints a misleading portrait of RADAR.  So he also said he might consider publishing an op-ed by RADAR to correct the other misinformation about the reasons RADAR exists.

RADAR did submit a response, but of necessity it was much longer than the Tribune's length limit for an op-ed.  That's because the information RADAR knows about is not common knowledge, so for us to simply state a position without backing it up with facts would not make a credible case.  After weeks of inquiries as to whether or not the Tribune will be publishing our response, we learned just recently that they will not.

Here's the article the Tribune will not be printing.


Mark you are such a credit to the men's movement.  What we need is a thousand more like you with the same passion for justice about their chosen cause and this problem would be solved.
"The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master." -- Ayn Rand<br /><br />

Men's Rights Activist

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Mark you are such a credit to the men's movement.  What we need is a thousand more like you with the same passion for justice about their chosen cause and this problem would be solved.


I agree 100 percent.  Well said.
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

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