A hypothetical situation: false rape conviction.

[InternetDevil]

Imagine you are a man who is falsely accused of date rape, convicted on her word alone, forced to spend ten years in prison.  Then forced to go to an extremly humiliating treatment where you have to disclose all your sexual fantasies, take plethymograph tests, etc.  Then you are put on Megan's list for life.

    How would you feel, and what would you do in that situation?  Even though I am a religeous Jew, I do not think I would be able not to commit suicide under these conditions.

[Sir Jessy of Anti]

Suicide is too easy.  If it was a malicious, intentional, spiteful thing hmmmm......well part of my character hopes I would be able to do the Christian thing, and forgive her.  The other part of me would probably want to hunt her down and kill her, the DA, and possibly the Judge when released.  

I honestly don't know which part would win.  I'd like to think I could never intentionally hurt another individual, but under these circumstances - I can't say.

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

I consider false witness and false conviction to be an assault not unlike attempted murder or a form of induced slavery and thereby is to be considered  an act of war. I could be a little practical about it and sort of "wait and see" if the truth were to be somehow revealed at the last minute before I was to risk doing time thusly restraining myself from getting down and dirty. But the part I have irrefutable trouble with is the "forced to spend ten years in prison" part because.....you see, I dont time......alive. :no:

[Daymar]

I like the act of war notion. I'm not really sure what I would do, it'd depend on the situation I guess. My parents and most of my family wouldn't even consider believing the charges in the first place but I would most likely leave the country.

[The Gonzman]

Revenge.  And killing is too easy.  Either she'd indenture herself too me or I'd do the talk show circuit, showing her picture and repeating her name until her name became a new word we all used.

Yeah.  Revenge.

[LSBeene]

This is MY ideal fantasy.  It's purely inspired by sci-fi / fantasy

   Since Feminazis seem to be indifferent (if not happy) that men who go to prison for sex-related crimes are raped, I think the time for equality has come.  

    Let the woman who falsely accuses be put into the man's body and sent to prison.  Let's see what she would face, shall we?

    Often the guards will let the other prisoners know what the man has been incarcerated for.  There are no lambs in prison, only predators (this was said to me by someone who knows).  First off she would be beaten down and sodomized.  Often the first few beatings/rapes are accompanied by the kicking in of the front teeth.  This way when the man/woman has been cowed by the "loving supportive victim-friendly enviornment" the man/woman would be unable to bite down when certain body appendages are forcibly stuffed into their mouths.  After a while of being gang raped and beaten the victim seeks out a "protector" or a group of them.  These kind hearted folks will use their new "bitch" (rape victim) as they see fit, but the victim is "protected" as their property.  Being made to wear female clothing. and make up and being traded for cigarettes gives the victim a feeling of "empowerment" and "safety".  Being made to eat out of a toilet, clean your "owner" with your tongue after he has defecated , and other fun "group activities" at camp are part of your state sponsored get away vacation sponsored by Feminazis.  And of course once you are someones "bitch", you will never have any other status in prison.  

And we have all heard the heart wrenching stories of women who have been raped ONCE.  Well, the happy prison camper is raped every day, often multiple times a day.  When we hear about how ONE rape is life changing and scars the soul, one could only imagine what being raped HUNDREDS OF TIMES each YEAR, year after year, with no legal recourse would do to someone's soul.

Then of course you get the mandatory "rape empathy/couseling" (how do you spell "euphemism "?) courses, where you are MANDATED to write a letter of empathy for your victim.  So what that it is also a letter of confession, if you don't write it, you can be rest assured you DONT GET OUT OF PRISON long after your sentence is over with, as you are deemed a danger to society.  And if you don't take the course, you can stay with your butt plumber buddies and their tender loving care.  So great incentive is given to "reform" (read: break down) the rapist.   You get to get screamed at by past victims, spit on, you get to admit over and over how you are guilty, and how what has happened to you in prison is your own fault.  Funny thing that line of thinking.  Rape victim advocates repeat that NO ONE EVER DESERVES to be raped for ANY reason.  Wonder why they aren't screaming for these male victims ... hmmm.  And I once heard a saying: "you are sent to prison AS punishment, not FOR punishment".  Wonder why the media and politicians aren't screaming and doing a movie of the week special about this kind of sexual enslavement.... hmmmm.  But, meanwhile back at "camp"...

No one can describe the day after day after week after week after month after month after year after year of time you spend in prison.  It just can't be done.   But you reach your time when you are about to get out, and you get to tell the parole board how you are a guilty piece of shit and deserved all that happened to you "inside".  

Then you get out and are given strict orders on what you may and may not do, who you may date (if you get permission - and after you tell her where you have been and what you were convicted of), and get that much sought after job: picking colored glass from clear glass for minimum wage.  And don't forget that inspired peice of legislation "Megan's Law" which not only means you get to register locally with the police and be under constant scrutiny, nope, you get your picture plastered nationwide.  And as far a politically, you are persona-non-grata since you can not vote, and no politician will come within a mile of you; so forget becoming an effective advocate for reform of the one-sided laws.  

Oh, and sarcasm aside, recent Feminazi advocates want people (read: MEN) who have been ACCUSED (even if aqquited) to be put on the Megan's Law database.  This was recently put forward in a column written by a woman lawyer who used convoluted logic and half-truths to make it sound o-so-fair and useful to society.  So, if it goes through, and it might folks (and most likely very quietly), then if you are ACCUSED of any sexually related crime, your name, face, address, and what you were accussed of would be put on a national database.

Ahhhh, the wonderful empathy and equality that has been brought to us by Feminazis.

Any law written by one group, that only will be applied to another group, and that the writers of the law are mostly immune from is called TYRANNY.

Peace
   L Steven Beene II

[Daymar]

Does that stuff really happen in prison? I watched a news documentary on TV and there was a guy that had been in prison and he said that kind of stuff doesn't happen. Maybe he was at a 'nice' prison or jail or something. But isn't there a large amount of people in for non-violent crimes like drug users?

[LSBeene]

Recently, a law was passed: the Prison Rape Elimination Act.  It's a band-aid at best.  Your friend may not want to tell you what happened to him, would you?  Or if he did not experience it, he may not want to talk about what prison life is like, again, would you?
Try reading this:

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0916.html

Quote is from the article:
Prison rape seems to be rising as well. Several academic studies in the '80s estimated that 7 to 15 percent of inmates were raped: a rate of 10 percent amounting to approximately 200,000 people.

Good follow up article:
http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0923letter.html

And a few last points:  Most prison rape victims are REPEAT VICTIMS who are raped repeatedly for their entire sentence.  So if we take the 200,000 number and be REALLY REALLY CONSERVATIVE and say they get raped 20 times a year, there are 4 MILLION rapes of men in prison each year.  More than all the women who are raped in America.  Ever heard of media outrage on this?  Any Rape-victim-advocates list THAT statistic?  Makes ya think huh?

Do a Google search about it, and find sites from men who have been in prison who have been raped.  I did.  I read some of the stories (and you often have to read between the lines too) and I couldn't read them for very long.  These guys have been damaged beyond repair for the most part, and I can not imagine what is left of their "life".

Steven

[neoteny]

Does that stuff really happen in prison? I watched a news documentary on TV and there was a guy that had been in prison and he said that kind of stuff doesn't happen. Maybe he was at a 'nice' prison or jail or something. But isn't there a large amount of people in for non-violent crimes like drug users?

Well, I'm sure there are some differences between prisons (and jails &c.), but...

once I've read a book which was written by a gay dude who spent some time in prison. The story he told was very similar to LSBeene's description...  

[tricycle]

rape - in prisoners own words

That link is to a page at the Human Rights Watch site, and some of the stories are really disturbing.

Inmates confined for sexual offenses, especially those against juvenile victims, are at the bottom of the pecking order and consequentially most often victimized. Because of their crime, the general population justifies using their weakness by labling rape "just punishment" for their crime. Sexual offenders are the number one target group for prisoner rape. Inmates who come to prison at an early age are the second target group. Being younger, more physically attractive, and less likely to be infected with H.I.V., this group "needs to learn not to come back to prison a second time." Obviously this is a poor justification for rape, but in the prison social structure any excuse will do.
-- L.V., Arkansas, 9/3/96

I've seen inmates attacked by two or three men at a time and forced to the floor, while two or three hold him down, the fourth man slaps vaseline on his rectum and rapes him. I knew two men who hung themselves after this.
-- R.L., New York, 9/9/96

My celly tried to rape me with a knife for a weapon, we fought and I got the knife and stabbed him to fight him off, I was charged with attempted murder and felonious assault and taken to trial, found guilty and received 12 to 15 years. The system feels that justice was done.
-- L.L., Ohio, 9/14/96

I think that the reason there isn't more of an outcry over this is because being a rape victim is a shameful thing and people would be wary of the reaction they would get from other people - and would probably be worse for men as they would be seen as 'weak'.

I had a friend die from HIV that he was infected with when he was sent to prison at 18.
His lawyer appealed the pison time, saying that Justin was gay, and very effeminate and would ecome a target for rapists. The judge said that rape doesn't occur in prisons, and sent him anyway. That little bit of judicial blindness cost the state around half a million when he sued.

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

Tricycle- That article is one of the filthiest, most condemning testimonies Ive ever read. The prison system and the shitheads who run it are a national disgrace. I hold the officials who turn a blind eye to this horrific holocaust to be equally in violation with the rapists. Not to mention the vindictive Feminazi pieces of shit who helped to create the tyrannical system that reinforces it. Since the state is in violation for not addressing this (and so many other) issue I declare that the state is to be censured and its authority refuted until these and other issues are resolved!!! I will continue to train and prepare for death before I let myself and others be cornered into such a demeaning and torturous enslavement. The notion of an inmate suffering like this who is doing time for some nominal or even unjustified conviction such as possesion of Marijuana or unpaid alimony as a result of job loss for example is going to be considered a victim of a war crime. The perpetrators and prison officials who ignore it or perpetuate this will be subject to enslavement themselves as a just means to effect remorse from these neonazi fuckwads. DONT TREAD ON ME!!!!
:2up:

[Renegade]

This is in interesting topic. On Canadian television, we frequently have these "vignettes", short 3-5 minute filler shows that depict past Canadian history and how Canada grew as a country. Of course, a few of these deal with the "problems" that women had faced in history.

One of these vignettes shows a woman visiting a prison in the olden days and witnessing the deplorable and inhuman conditions. It was the advent of Woman's Suffrage that took prisons out of the medieval ages to the modern resorts that they are today.

I shudder at the thought of what the prisons were like 150 years ago, after reading the stories about how they are today.


R

[closetrightyNYC]

Ahh, but for the feminists, all men are guilty until proven innocent.  Actually, they're guilty until proven guilty, because with feminists, men can't win.   :roll:

I consider false witness and false conviction to be an assault not unlike attempted murder or a form of induced slavery and thereby is to be considered  an act of war. I could be a little practical about it and sort of "wait and see" if the truth were to be somehow revealed at the last minute before I was to risk doing time thusly restraining myself from getting down and dirty. But the part I have irrefutable trouble with is the "forced to spend ten years in prison" part because.....you see, I dont time......alive. :no:

[closetrightyNYC]

What I find interesting is, why do so many of these feminazis support raping the rapist, but not killing the killer (e.g., they are against the death penalty)?  Or are they only against the death penalty for "oppressed, voiceless" populations?   :roll:

rape - in prisoners own words

That link is to a page at the Human Rights Watch site, and some of the stories are really disturbing.

Inmates confined for sexual offenses, especially those against juvenile victims, are at the bottom of the pecking order and consequentially most often victimized. Because of their crime, the general population justifies using their weakness by labling rape "just punishment" for their crime. Sexual offenders are the number one target group for prisoner rape. Inmates who come to prison at an early age are the second target group. Being younger, more physically attractive, and less likely to be infected with H.I.V., this group "needs to learn not to come back to prison a second time." Obviously this is a poor justification for rape, but in the prison social structure any excuse will do.
-- L.V., Arkansas, 9/3/96

I've seen inmates attacked by two or three men at a time and forced to the floor, while two or three hold him down, the fourth man slaps vaseline on his rectum and rapes him. I knew two men who hung themselves after this.
-- R.L., New York, 9/9/96

My celly tried to rape me with a knife for a weapon, we fought and I got the knife and stabbed him to fight him off, I was charged with attempted murder and felonious assault and taken to trial, found guilty and received 12 to 15 years. The system feels that justice was done.
-- L.L., Ohio, 9/14/96

I think that the reason there isn't more of an outcry over this is because being a rape victim is a shameful thing and people would be wary of the reaction they would get from other people - and would probably be worse for men as they would be seen as 'weak'.

I had a friend die from HIV that he was infected with when he was sent to prison at 18.
His lawyer appealed the pison time, saying that Justin was gay, and very effeminate and would ecome a target for rapists. The judge said that rape doesn't occur in prisons, and sent him anyway. That little bit of judicial blindness cost the state around half a million when he sued.

[InternetDevil]

Then of course you get the mandatory "rape empathy/couseling" (how do you spell "euphemism "?) courses, where you are MANDATED to write a letter of empathy for your victim.  So what that it is also a letter of confession, if you don't write it, you can be rest assured you DONT GET OUT OF PRISON long after your sentence is over with, as you are deemed a danger to society.  And if you don't take the course, you can stay with your butt plumber buddies and their tender loving care.  So great incentive is given to "reform" (read: break down) the rapist.   You get to get screamed at by past victims, spit on, you get to admit over and over how you are guilty, and how what has happened to you in prison is your own fault.  

Do they really subject offenders to that mental torture?  I mean spitting upon and insulting inmates who can not protest IS very cruel and unusual.  Does it also happen to those on probation?  Do any of them snap?