Challenge: Prove the oil connection in Iraq

Started by Amber, Dec 14, 2003, 05:40 PM

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Amber

he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Matt

Iraqi oil was already on the world market for free under the UN-controlled embargo. Well, technically not for free, we had to send over a fraction of the surplus food our government-subsidized farms accidentally grow, which the homeless people of our country would have let gone to waste anyway.  8)

Going over to take control of the physical means of production (which we would have had to destroy and rebuild in any military invasion) would have cost hundreds of times the shipping costs of that food, and then you have to tack on the costs of extracting it ourselves, refining it ourselves, and shipping it back to the States ourselves. If all we wanted was Iraqi oil, there were much cheaper ways to go about getting it.

There are plenty of valid arguments concerning the war in Iraq. "Blood for Oil" is not one of them.
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Matt

However, I will offer this caveat. Did the fact that the country possessed rich oil deposits make them a geopolitical actor worthy of our attention in the first place? Probably.
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Daymar

Well that's why we support Israel.

nyet

Shit, if all this country wanted was cheap oil, Iraq wouldn't be first on the hit list.

They'd steamroll Saudi Arabia and turn it into a U.S. territory.

Teddy_Roosevelt

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However, I will offer this caveat. Did the fact that the country possessed rich oil deposits make them a geopolitical actor worthy of our attention in the first place? Probably.


Yes, it did. Iraq's and the middle east's stability was a national security issue because of its oil; that's why it mattered.

The jungles of Rwanda were not so similarly important. Therefore it did not require our attention.

Cold? Yes. Reality? Yes. The lives we've lost in Iraq were better spent than those we would have lost in Rwanda based on a cost/benefit analysis.
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Daymar

If it's about oil then it's a stupid war. We could have just put all that 150 billion in money into creating new energy sources and saved lives.

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