New York is giving up....

Started by The Gonzman, Jun 18, 2010, 06:13 AM

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N.Y. Moves Closer to No-Fault Divorce

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The new legislation still has to pass the State Assembly, which is considering two bills that would include some version of no-fault divorce. But advocates said Tuesday that they believed that victory in the Senate, which was controlled by Republicans until last year, gave the measure momentum and a high likelihood of gaining approval in the Assembly, which is also controlled by Democrats.

Gov. David A. Paterson, a Democrat, is expected to support the bill if both houses of the Legislature approve it, although a spokesman cautioned that Mr. Paterson would need to review any final legislation before signing it.

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"What I'm hoping is that because the Assembly now has a partner in the Senate, that will give impetus to help the Assembly move along," Senator Ruth Hassell-Thompson, a Democrat from Westchester and the Bronx who was the chief Senate sponsor of the bill, said after the vote.


And cue now the hordes of faux-MRA liberals with the litanty of rationalizations of how this is a good thing, and the G.O.P. is just as bad, no better, worse, worst, worser than worse, WORSETHANHITLER.

You want no-fault divorce?  Here's how to do it right.

Divorce comes in more than one flavor.  The first is the traditional fault-based divorce.  Your spouse is abusive?  A unwilling to reform addict?  And adulterer?  Sick in the head and unwilling to have treatment?  Guilty of heinous crimes? Okay - prove it.  And it is easier than it sounds.  If you can prove bad behavior, the bad behavior counts against them for division of property, custody, etc.

Oh - False accusations are bad behavior.

The second is mutual agreement.  The divorce agreement is up to you.  You work out division of property, division of debt, custody, child support, maintenance, and all of that.  Yo agree to forswear any further state involvement, to wit, any dispute of this down the road becomes a purely civil matter; the state will not intervene as an advocate, and you are responsible for litigating it.

The last is to walk out.  That's it.  Go.  You get the clothes on your back, a change of clothes, your personal legal papers, half the debt, and a child support obligation, plus two years of spousal maintenance to be calulated by imputed income.  That's it.  And unless you can prove fault after the fact - you may never go to court to change the terms.  Your visitation is fixed, and you do become the second class parent.  You don't surrender parental rights to be informed, but your ex-partner makes all decisions.

Anything beyond this is a gift.

And if you disappear for more than a month, it is "Abandonment and cause for a fault-based divorce.  Disappear for more than a year, and it is the second type of no-fault divorce.

Problem solved.  Except that people become responsible for their own actions, and lawyers will lose business, there's no reason it shouldn't be law in all 50 states.

Won't do anything to reduce divorce now, but going forward it will make people think hard before getting married.
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neoteny

Except that people become responsible for their own actions, and lawyers will lose business, there's no reason it shouldn't be law in all 50 states.


Advocating any change which would lead to lawyers losing business is as un-American as it gets.  :tongue2:
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Virtue

I would like to add my typical line.

Abolish Alimony, palimony, welfare and childsupport.
Imagine waking up tomorrow to find
that unbelievably rape is now legal.

You would be freaking out, telling everyone you ran into this is crazy- something needs to be done... now!!! And then every man you told this to just very smugly and condescendingly says...

"Hey... not all men are 'like that.'"

BRIAN

I would bet the trial lawyers are behind this. Gotta find new streams of revenue for the DV/Divorce industry.
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neoteny

I would bet the trial lawyers are behind this. Gotta find new streams of revenue for the DV/Divorce industry.


Sure they are; anyone who pays attention to the US political scene understands that the Democratic Party is the trial lawyers' party (after all, John Edwards was a serious contender for the Party's presidential nomination). Do you recall when the Republicans were going on about "tort reform"? now that flew like a lead balloon...
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

CaptDMO

Sooooo.....how is that no fault auto insurance working out for the people of New York
(and New Jersey)?
How's it working out for the insurance companies, and the state that taxes their "policies"?

How's that no-fault elected/appointed democrat-in-conflict-with-democrat-legislated-law rule working out for New York, Nevada, Illinois, and California?

FAIRNESS/ EQUALITY LITE!
NOW with LESS of that silly unintended consequences thingie. 

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