What do you think of Israel?

[Amber]

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[Galt]

Also - no one really wanted the land all that much back then (in the 1940s).  It only became an issue when Israel built everything up.  Tel Aviv is a modern city today, and not a hole in the desert.  So then, all of a sudden, the fight starts as to who the land belonged to.

I suppose it's similar with Manhattan.  At that time, the whities from Europe bought it for trinkets from the Indians.  But there was also NOTHING there except some land on an island.  Things look a bit different after Trump Towers and all the rest come up.  But someone paid to build those, and Israelis paid and worked to build the cities in Israel.

[RockyMountainMan]

By the way Rocky, is that cursive R on red background like the Coke symbol ... does it mean we should "Enjoy Rocky"  ?  

:mrgreen:

[Daymar]

Yes, the US turned them away because of anti-semitism but they endorsed Israel as a full nation about 30 minutes after the UN declared them a nation.

[Amber]

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[Galt]

I've never had a problem with separation as a solution.  For instance, if the Francophones in Canada have such a huge problem, they should really make Quebec an independent country.

What Israel and the Palestinean Arabs should do is simply divvy up the land - once and for all - and that's it.  And friggin' stay on their side.

[The Gonzman]

The strong will do as they will, and the weak will suffer what they must.  Israel won their homeland - which was incidentally nobody's property at the time - because they went in, grabbed it, held it, built it, and defended it from all comers.  Everytime the damn racist Muslim Arabs have gone in there to invade and commit genocide, they have had their asses handed to them.  And Israel has shown nothing but remarkable restraint.

Personally, I think it's high time someone went in and put a cracked-glass finish on the Palestinian area.  After watching that fat bitch after 9-11 dancing in the streets, those miserable fucks have lost any sympathy with me whatsoever.  Insofar as I am concerned, their Arab brothers need to take them in, and if they keep their shit up with Israel, the Israelis can put them to the sword to the last man, and good riddance to the worthless fucks.

The middle east is how big?  And Israel has what for natural resources?  If the Jews went in there to get rich they picked the wrong fucking spot, that's for damn sure.  They went in to be left alone - something the Arabs out there have yet to try for the most part; and funny how everyone who has left Israel alone has been left alone by Israel, and even given their land back, which they rightfully lost as spoils of unprovoked war.  Every piece of literature that comes out of the area that isn't filtered by the Anti-Semitic racist "Bash Israel" bunch has "KILL ALL JEWS" written all through it in one way or another.

Much as I am antipathetic towards GWB, there's a strong part of me that feels like it's time to go finish the unfinished business of the fucking crusades for good.  And if Israel has the bomb - good for them.  If anyone puts the screws to them I hope they blow Mecca to fucking hell.

And no, I'm not Jewish.

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

I agree with the Messianic Jews. Israel should dismantle their government and move to North America. The Biblical notion of the Jewish homeland is being misinterpreted. According to Bible prophecy Israel will only be legitamate when the Messiah Himself creates it. Besides more Jews live outside of Israel than inside now anyway and to remain there is only going to invite further potential for catastrophe. I dont have a beef with the arabs anyway and I dont wish to see my tax dollars going to support more of the ugly American dilemma. Americas metling pot can be a better host to the Israelis than the Kamikaze abuse theyre enduring now. Children blowing up children is a horrific disaster.

[Daymar]

Yeah I agree with them moving as probobly being the best choice but I really doubt it will happen. They have their own nation and there's no way they'll give that up easily. And the U.S. will continue to fund them because the government wants allies in the middle east.

[Amber]

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[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

"Let them fight and die on their own, for their own stupid cause."

I believe that at least half of the people in that region, both muslims and jews would be reasonable enough to consider the exodus option. We probably have little recourse trying to convince the zealous Zionists or the PLO to relocate but the problem with their intransigence is that too many innocent children are being destroyed by the endless warfare. We must at least try to convince them to reconsider their options or millions of innocent people could die.