The US is the World's Liberator

Started by Amber, Dec 14, 2003, 04:21 PM

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Quote from: "gmk1212"
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Oh, so if someone was on fire across the street you wouldn't even walk across it to piss on them? You didn't set them on fire so screw 'em right?



Ya right.  Even if Canada did decide to invade Iraq the Americans would have quashed that right off the bat and told us to mind our own business.  

Besides the analogy isn't the same.  Saddam went rogue on the Americans, which means they didn't have the power infastructure anymore.  

Because Saddam tortured people etc....what's that to the Americans?  Do you think Saddam is the only one?  If that's the case I have a list I can give to you guys in regards to helping people all across the globe.  

Of course no doubt the Americans will be using it, claiming all kinds of nice things meanwhile covertly invading everyone for their resources.  

So whose next on the 'hit list'?    I guess they still have their hands tied in Iraq for a while, but eventually they'll get somewhere, no doubt right on time with elections.

Daymar

Why don't you include your statement in that quote? You said since Canada didn't cause the problem that Canada doesn't care. That means if there was someone across the street from Canada, Canada wouldn't walk across the street to piss on them because Canada didn't set the fire so Canada doesn't care. Just because you didn't cause the problem doesn't mean you're morally right for not helping to correct the problem.

"Because Saddam tortured people etc....what's that to the Americans?"

Why does it matter what that is to Americans? I included that only as a something good that came about because of the invasion. Might just be a postive externality but it did happen.

"Of course no doubt the Americans will be using it, claiming all kinds of nice things meanwhile covertly invading everyone for their resources."

While the Canadians ride our coat tails, I guess. There's no way it could be for security reasons because the Americans couldn't possibly do anything for the right reason and because that wouldn't make you feel bigger than them. You said Canada shouldn't get involved because it's a U.S. problem, but if it's a U.S. problem that needs correcting, how can it only be about oil? Does oil need correcting?

tricycle

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Saddam has been strongly linked with Osama


That depends on which news service you listen to, or think is the most honest.

This is from Febuary this year:

The actual tape, played and translated live on every major cable news channel, told a very different story. Osama bin Laden swore vengeance against America if Iraq was attacked, and demanded that the Muslim world stand in solidarity with the Muslim people of Iraq. In very clear words, Osama bin Laden told the people of Iraq to rise up against both American aggression and against "socialist" Saddam Hussein. If the translations that were provided were reliable, there is no ambiguity in bin Laden's words on the matter. So much, it seems, for Powell's case that Hussein and bin Laden are working together.

truthout.org

This is from April:

Iraqi intelligence documents discovered in Baghdad by The Telegraph have provided the first evidence of a direct link between Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda terrorist network and Saddam Hussein's regime.

Papers found yesterday in the bombed headquarters of the Mukhabarat, Iraq's intelligence service, reveal that an al-Qa'eda envoy was invited clandestinely to Baghdad in March 1998.


The Telegraph


There seems to be quite a lot of articles about each side of the argument.

As for myself, I am undecided.
trange little girl ....

Daymar

They might not work directly with each other but Saddam probobly has really good information about a lot of stuff and Osama is probobly one of those things. Not only that, but when Saddam is put on trial a lot of information about a lot of things will most likely come out.

dr e

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D

Oh I see, America invaded Iraq on the 'Best possible guess' rule.  

Did the press conference go something like this?  "Since Saddam lives in the middle east, we're betting that hey knows where Osama is.  We've got our fingers crossed."

Daymar

Well let me call the President up and ask him. I'm sure he'll assemble his intelligence team to answer my questions. It'll only take a few mins so keep checking back.

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Quote from: "gmk1212"
Well let me call the President up and ask him. I'm sure he'll assemble his intelligence team to answer my questions. It'll only take a few mins so keep checking back.




I won't hold my breath.  If you don't know by now, I don't think you will ever know.

Teddy_Roosevelt

Quote from: "Bilbo"
I know.  I was kinda being a smart ass.


You're both wrong Bilbo because the anti-Americans were at the secret meetings between the CIA operatives and Saddam when we put him in power, and now thankfully they're broadcasting what they imagin..I mean saw happen.

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Respect is not a civil right; it is an attitude of approval and admiration. No one can claim a "right" to the emotional or intellectual approval of anyone else. " - That I-feminist who writes for foxnews.com

Daymar

Quote from: "Dan Lynch"
I won't hold my breath.  If you don't know by now, I don't think you will ever know.


You don't seem to be getting the point, which doesn't really surprise me anymore. I don't attempt to say I can read Bush's mind which you apparently think you can. With your conspiracy theories of feminism really being communism you draw your conclusions from patterns that could match other patterns but yet you decide to pick only one. This is just another one of your conspiracy theories that you decide to pick from the bunch. There could be a lot of reasons Bush took us to Iraq.

If Bush took us to Iraq only for oil then yes this is a pretty stupid war. The 150 billion could've been spent on researching alternative energy sources and a lot of lives could've been saved, well except for the several hundred thousand Iraqi lives anyway. But Bush would have to be a total sociopath to cause his own troops to be killed and maimed only for oil.

Instead of trying to read Bush's mind and believe it's all about oil why don't you look at what happened because of the war instead of what your perception of what caused it is.

D

Ya, you're right, feminism isn't communism at all.  I was just drawing conclusions, along with several other hundred qualified people who seem to think the same thing.

Feminism may have been a seperate issue once upon a time, but the commies with no where to go, jumped on that band wagon and highjacked it all to hell.

Scratch that, I seriously doubt feminists really had any of their own issues anyways.  Women did what women wanted to do.  Feminism told women what women wanted to do.  Two very distinct things.  So instead of the Super Soviet Man we now have the Super Soviet Woman.

Daymar

"but the commies with no where to go, jumped on that band wagon and highjacked it all to hell."

Aren't those guys dead?

There's several hundred 'qualified' people saying Bush went to Iraq over oil too which doesn't change the fact that they're all just assuming. Actually I don't think they deserve to be called qualified when they declare their findings to be solid evidence when they have no other proof than patterns to draw from.

D

Comparing the two doesn't make your incite correct.

The guys may be dead, but the psychopolitical virus continues on.  Far to many people can benifit from knowing the determination of the brainwashed.  

If people know how brainwashed people will respond to certain stimuli why not capitalize on it.  It's so far spread where to begin?  But obviously with Pavlov's work we can know its origins.  Not to mention the Chinese and the Jews were doing the same thing, resulting in the same socialistic outcome.

Amber

I'm glad to see the sadlyno.com folks follow my articles and always give me free plugs.  :D :D

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/000106.html

"Sadly, No!'s best friend, Amber Pawlik, is happy about the capture of Saddam Hussein. (Indeed, we think she just may have gotten her first ever orgasm, but we'll need to check with our sources.) "


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he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Amber

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The freest, most bitchen', totally hot country in like, forever, and stuff...

Sadly, No points us in the direction of our mutual gal-pal, Amber Pawlik, who is still cruising MensNewsDaily (yeah, we never heard of it either) looking for a date to the Winter Formal at PSU. Today Amber is talking war stuff:

This scum bucket, as of this morning of December 14, 2003, was captured and detained, and all Iraqis can rest assured that they will never suffer terror at the hands of this monster again. It wasn�t Canada that captured him; it wasn�t Mexico; it wasn�t Germany; it wasn�t France: it was the United States, the freest, most capitalistic nation in the world today or ever.

This is sooo Tiger-Beat-meets-The-New-Republic. Maybe Amber can do a sleepover at Kathryn Jean Lopez's place this Saturday night and they can, like, stay up late eating microwave popcorn and watching Red Dawn and writing notes to slip into Rich Lowry's locker at the Corner because, he's like, all yummy and stuff, like James Spader in Pretty In Pink kinda way, and omigod! he likes you, no he likes you! and we better masturbate and then go to sleep before your mom wakes up or we won't be able to go to Hot Topic at the mall tomorrow and buy Good Charlotte and Rod Dreher pins.....



I like James Spader :D :D
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

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