Men's Rights Activists

Started by Amber, Dec 15, 2003, 03:27 PM

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LSBeene

Hey Sir Jesse and Beste and others,

I really thank you for looking into this for me.  I may be wrong on the ID.  Let me help you out.  I may be talking about 2 different people or the same person.  

1) The TIME MAGAZINE (or NEWSWEEK) (1991 or 1992 I think) issue came out about the time WILLAIM KENNEDY SMITH was being falsely accused.  The woman on the cover was in black in white, with her arms defiantly crossed accross her chest and this was the "coming out" of the date-rape thing.  Also, HBO or SHOWTIME did a movie about her experience.

2) there was a speaker at our school, and I THOUGHT, and I did say I could be wrong, that it was Karen DeCostner.  But if I was wrong, then I happily admit it.  I know that a false allegation tore holes in my life, and I don't want to falsely paint someone with a brush of evil when they don't deserve it.

But, either way, I truly appreciate you guys taking the time to help me out and set me straight.  I demand honest and forthcoming accounts/facts/statistics from others, and I hold myself to the same standard.

with regards

    Steven
'Watch our backs at home, we'll guard the wall over here. You can sleep safe tonight, we'll guard the door."

Isaiah 6:8
"Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

InternetDevil

Quote from: "Amber"
I'm not sure how much exposing has to be done until people realize this movement is just a hate movement.  However, I am fully confident that most intelligent people can see that already, including most female and many male posters here.  This is all the time I am giving to the MRA from now on ... they are, for the most part, irrelevant.


First we need to expose your well documented quotes:

1)     Characterising a whole religeon as evil.
2)     Vulgarity.

Rayden

Yeah, Amber swears a lot on here, and she does not like Jesus.  She must be a very unhappy girl to not like Jesus.

The Gonzman

Quote from: "Amber"


God, you are the most condescending, angry person I think I've ever met.  



Only to twits when I have had it with suffering their foolishness gladly.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

The Gonzman

Quote from: "InternetDevil"

First we need to expose your well documented quotes:

1)     Characterising a whole religeon as evil.
2)     Vulgarity.


Not just a whole religion, whole religions in the plural.  And a race that comprises one.

While she erroneously gets in a snit about me calling her a hag (Which I didn't - just pointed out that in twenty years she will be one, while I'll be even sexier in a Sean Conneryesque way) She doesn't seem to upset about me calling her a bigot and a racist.

Of course, the best defense against libel is always the truth, isn't it?
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

devia

No offence Gonzokid.. but I'm 36 and have every intention of stil looking good (not a hag) when I'm 43.

Not every woman is a cheesepuff scarfing piece of lard once they hit 30.

Sad thing is the majority of men grow the gut and lose the hair, and the majority of women grow everything including walmart momo's once they settle down. The sexy 40 year old male is as rare a creature as it's female counterpart, regardless of what is taught you on the idiot box..

LSBeene

By the way, I found the answer.

The woman who came to my campus and helped raise the date-rape hysteria was:

Katie Koestner

And the Time Magazine Cover I was talking about can be seen at THIS site.  You will all probably smack your foreheads and say: "oh sh*t, I know this magazine cover, how the heck could I forget?"

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/archive/covers/0,16641,1101910603,00.html

She was the one who told the women in the audience: "if you had sex and you didn't like it, or later regretted it ... it may have been rape"  (close approximation)  

THE NEXT DAY the woman who I had had sex with 6 weeks earlier and who had broken up with 3 weeks earlier decided that our sex was rape.

I demand accurate facts and, although I dislike Karen DeCoster, I must not cast accusations upon the innocent.  I got the name wrong guys, I apologize.

Steven Beene
'Watch our backs at home, we'll guard the wall over here. You can sleep safe tonight, we'll guard the door."

Isaiah 6:8
"Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

The Gonzman

Quote from: "devia"
No offence Gonzokid.. but I'm 36 and have every intention of stil looking good (not a hag) when I'm 43.

Not every woman is a cheesepuff scarfing piece of lard once they hit 30.

Sad thing is the majority of men grow the gut and lose the hair, and the majority of women grow everything including walmart momo's once they settle down. The sexy 40 year old male is as rare a creature as it's female counterpart, regardless of what is taught you on the idiot box..


Yeah, but that is her real fear.  Biology is against her, and if some man doesn't "do his duty" to marry her, give her the life she expects handed to her on a silver platter, and makes her life work for her according to her plan, it can only be (obviously) because we socialist women-hating MRA's poisoned them and ruined it for her.

It's called killing the messenger, and despite her delusions to the contrary, the institution of marriage is cold and rigor mortis has long since set in.  It's empirically demonstrable as a sucker bet and a bad deal for men, but somehow we are SOB's for not wanting to drink the poison.

Reason 844 of Why the Amber!(tm) is a Feminist.  She thinks such things are her due as a possessor of the sacred boobs and the Holy Vagina.  And once she leaves the sheltered life of college and hits the real world, she's going to be in for a very rude awakening when she finds out real men have higher standards than her mere plumbing.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

Amber

Quote from: "Renegade"

So, Amber's form of "Men's Rights" is to have the genders act within their own roles, completely oblivious to the idea that today, being a "woman" already means to be virtually free of responsibility, while having choices, rights and freedoms.

That is what it looks like from Amber's articles that I have read.

R



So, in other words, just because I am a woman - I am automatically evil.

:roll:  God, you men just need to eat it.  I seriously mean that.  From Galt to the a$$holes on MND forums, you are all so thwarted in your world of females = get to do whatever they want and men = saintly victimized group that you're just ... .ugh ... you're very UGLY!  

Blah.  I need a break from this forum.  I'm leaving, temporarily.  Hopefully, for good.  Go grunt in your world of "We as men are discriminated against and oppressed and women get to do whatever because they are pretty world" and your "Amber is evil because she .... I don't know ... doesn't write articles that spout our agenda all the time" ... miserable world.

Ya, and, as usual, this place will just go to the shitter wi/ a bunch of whiny, morally ugly men b*tching about the world.  :roll:  

:vomit:  :vomit:  :vomit:

Meanwhile, I'll go and make a name for myself.  Bye assholes.  :D :D
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Beste

:spam: ber,

You got what you deserved.

Good riddance and this time don't come back.

PowerMan72

Enough Amber.

Don't let the door knob hit you in the ass on the way out.           :x
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."

Rayden

Amber said:

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Meanwhile, I'll go and make a name for myself.



Amber,

I think you already have, and it is not the name you wanted to make for yourself.  And you have done this in front of millions and millions of users on a global scale.  Congratulations!

The Gonzman

Quote from: "Amber"


So, in other words, just because I am a woman - I am automatically evil.

:roll:  God, you men just need to eat it.  I seriously mean that.  From Galt to the a$$holes on MND forums, you are all so thwarted in your world of females = get to do whatever they want and men = saintly victimized group that you're just ... .ugh ... you're very UGLY!  


Men are ugly - well, finally the true colors come out!

Quote from: "Amber"
Blah.  I need a break from this forum.  I'm leaving, temporarily.  Hopefully, for good.  Go grunt in your world of "We as men are discriminated against and oppressed and women get to do whatever because they are pretty world" and your "Amber is evil because she .... I don't know ... doesn't write articles that spout our agenda all the time" ... miserable world.


Translation:   :sm12:  I got criticized!  I got picked on!  You guys are meanies, so I'm running away crying!

:xyxwave: Buh-BYE!  Gonzo: 83, Whiney-ass Feminazis 0 - glad to see ya got the sense to know when yer whupped!  

Quote from: "Amber"
Ya, and, as usual, this place will just go to the shitter wi/ a bunch of whiny, morally ugly men b*tching about the world.  :roll:  

:vomit:  :vomit:  :vomit:

Meanwhile, I'll go and make a name for myself.  Bye assholes.  :D :D


I'll be there to welcome you to the world of the published.

Assuming, of course, you make it here with me.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

Mr. Bad

Quote from: "Gonzokid"
Quote from: "Amber"
And here is my ultimate challenge to the mens rights activists who are going nuts over my article called Experience Means Baggage:

If you REALLY do care about marriage and want to geniuinely clean up divorce .. then why, in my article, in which I clearly come out in favor of strong marriages ... of preparing and doing those things that set up for a solid marriage, by holding out for a man, which creates a stronger marriage ... did you not embrace this?

It seems a young girl advocating setting up strong marriages, not ones that lead to divorce would be embraced by them.  But it's not.  They went nuts over it.

Hmmm?  Can you answer that?  


Simple.  We don't HAVE marriage in this country.  What we have is some legal arrangement which stole name of the sacred covenant of marriage, and broke it down to a temporary contract of convenience. You can put all the lipstick on that pig you want.

Marriage doesn't even resemble what it was even fifty years ago, let alone what is was a hundred years ago.

You've offered nothing in there but platitudes.  You've never BEEN married, fer chrissake.  And you stand their preaching to men who have been through it, lost it all, and wonder why they're asking you what the fuck you know?

Have you ever actually sat down with a divorced man who has lost everything he worked for, his family, his dreams, his kids?  You ever done it without a chip on your shoulder and listened to him, without a hundred "yeah buts?"  Ever watch one of them take the exact same school picture and put one on every wall of their house because he otherwise only gets to see his flesh and blood every two weeks - unless mommy decides she doesn't feel like granting him his visitation this time?  Watch him be damned for having one job and not enough money to pay child support, and doubly damned for having a second job and not having time left over for his kid?

Ever gather among a group of friends at a 20th year reuinion, and find almost all of them have the exact same story?  The only ones who don't are almost to a man either gay or never married?

Good God.  You honestly just don't have a clue, do you?



Gonzokid pretty much says it all here and in other posts above.  (Good show GK - BTW, are you gonzo over at MND?)

Amber, I also hang out here and at MND (although I'm much more active over on the MND boards than here), and my problem with your articles and posts (can't really call them arguments) is that you seem to really not have a clue.  Let's face it, you're a 20-something college girl who is trying to preach about marriage to us guys who've been there, done that and have been raked over the coals.  You on the other hand argue for conservative values, etc., which frankly, only provide for privilege and advantage for women in our modern world.  In many ways, you would like to take us back to the past of the 1950s (when I was a kid) with respect to how men treat women, etc., but keep all of your Y2K+ perks that feminists have provided for you.  The problem most of guys over at MND (especially us older fellows) have with that is we see this ploy for what it is:  Having your cake and eating it too.  In fact, there was a very good article by that title by the computer programmer in Indiana just a few days ago over there, which sums up your problem pretty well.

Go there, read it and get a clue.
"Men in teams... got the human species from caves to palaces. When we watch men's teams at work, we pay homage to 10,000 years of male achievements; a record of vision, ingenuity and Herculean labor that feminism has been too mean-spirited to acknowledge."  Camille Paglia

The Gonzman

Quote from: "Mr. Bad"


Gonzokid pretty much says it all here and in other posts above.  (Good show GK - BTW, are you gonzo over at MND?)

Amber, I also hang out here and at MND (although I'm much more active over on the MND boards than here), and my problem with your articles and posts (can't really call them arguments) is that you seem to really not have a clue.  Let's face it, you're a 20-something college girl who is trying to preach about marriage to us guys who've been there, done that and have been raked over the coals.  You on the other hand argue for conservative values, etc., which frankly, only provide for privilege and advantage for women in our modern world.  In many ways, you would like to take us back to the past of the 1950s (when I was a kid) with respect to how men treat women, etc., but keep all of your Y2K+ perks that feminists have provided for you.  The problem most of guys over at MND (especially us older fellows) have with that is we see this ploy for what it is:  Having your cake and eating it too.  In fact, there was a very good article by that title by the computer programmer in Indiana just a few days ago over there, which sums up your problem pretty well.

Go there, read it and get a clue.


Thank you.  Gonzo, Gonzoman, Gonzokid, The Gonzo Kid, and Pete Jensen, the computer dude from Indiana are all one and the same.

:-)
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

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