Guess where else false accusations of rape were rampant?

Started by Conspiracy Theory, Dec 18, 2003, 10:31 PM

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Yes you've guessed it the old Soviet Union.  Hopefully someone with more knowledge on this will make some posts.  But apparently from some sources I am hearing that such a thing was very common.  

Kind of funny isn't it.   :D

Dating in the Soviet Union communist rule is a lot like dating in America today.  

Commie Pukes.
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Daymar

Russian women don't seem to be so worthless anymore considering all the Russian bride sites out there with more popping up all the time. Actually someone wrote something about this on the MND forum although I didn't finish reading it myself. http://www.3works.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636&highlight=russian

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Citing a recent USA Today article, discussing the miracle of DNA and FBI studies of sexual assault suspects, DNA testing exonerated about 30 percent to 35 percent of the more than 4,000 sexual assault suspects on whom the FBI had conducted DNA testing over the past three years.

In the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit's study of False Allegations conducted in 1983 of 556 rape investigations, a total of 220 (40%) of these reported rapes turned out to be false. Over one fourth of these 556 turned out to be hoaxes. And yet, some feminists and rape counselors claim that only two percent of rape reports are false.

Linda Fairstein, who directs the prosecution of sexual assault in New York, says that there are approximately 4,000 reports of rape each year in Manhattan. Of these, about half simply did not happen. Says Fairstein, "It's my job to bring justice to the man who has been falsely accused by a woman who has a grudge against him, just as it's my job to prosecute the real thing."

In New Zealand, police officials have stated that 64 percent of rape reports are false and that some women are making a business out of being raped, collecting sometimes up to $10,000 compensation per case.

The FBI stated that in 1990 over 8,500 of the rapes reported proved to be false. False reports of child abuse were twice that figure.

growing belief that false accusations of sexual assault have become commonplace has prompted a demand for fairer treatment of those accused, especially from the media. Critics of the media coverage seem particularly bitter about the standard policy of extending anonymity to accusers but not to the accused. They believe the double standard stigmatizes the accused, who should be presumed innocent, and encourages false accusations.

The criticism assumes that false reports are widespread. Estimates vary wildly.

At the high end is a study by the now-retired Purdue University sociologist Eugene J. Kanin who worked in cooperation with the police in a small metropolitan town. Kanin examined reports of forcible rape from 1978 to 1987 during which 109 accusations were lodged; 45, or 41 percent, were discarded as false. Three factors commonly motivated the false allegations: revenge, the need for an alibi, and a desire for attention.

At the low end of the estimate is the much-cited but vaguely supported "feminist" figure of 2 percent, popularized by Susan Brownmiller's 1975 book "Against Our Will." The extraordinarily low "feminist" figure only adds to a growing sense that accused men are often victims. First, they are victimized by false accusations and, then, by politically correct feminists who are seen to provide the ideological framework that enables false reports.

(The true number probably falls somewhere in between. In the absence of a signed confession, the adjudication of rape allegations as either "true" or "unfounded" does involve some subjective evaluation, a problem endemic to all studies and statistics on rape.)
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Quote from: "Daymar"
Russian women don't seem to be so worthless anymore considering all the Russian bride sites out there with more popping up all the time. Actually someone wrote something about this on the MND forum although I didn't finish reading it myself. http://www.3works.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636&highlight=russian



Let me make myself perfectly clear.  My goal here in my posts is not to demonize women on a whole.  My goal here is to expose the biased nature of the system.  The system to my opinion is well aware of the rate of false accusations.  Money is the motivator, and in order to make that money they have to shoot all this evidence down the memory hole in order to justify their rich living.  

Not all women are evil bitches, as are not all men are evil wife batterers.  My point is that this evidence doesn't reach the light of day, however unchecked research like the Mary Koss work, is placated all over the world as the standard.  Why is that?  There has to be a reason stronger than the simple fact of chivalry and or feminism.   Those two things on their own do not have the strength for people to ignore the truth.  

The fact is, they will use this to rape the land and its people.  These brutalist totalitarians are waging a war on us.  Both men and women.  Simply because women are getting a pay off for this doesn't mean they are in cohoots entirely.  The oppurtunity is just there, people will take it, it is human nature.  Most likely all humans are vulnerable to it.  It just so happens to be women right not.
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Daymar

I just posted that because I think it's interesting that Russian women may have filed a lot of false rape charges when the Soviet Union was around but now they're sought after by Western men.

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Quote from: "Daymar"
I just posted that because I think it's interesting that Russian women may have filed a lot of false rape charges when the Soviet Union was around but now they're sought after by Western men.



I think there is a term for this, something like the 'bait and switch'.  I can tell you that what you see isn't what you get.

They market these girls like it's the best thing since me, but I tell you they learn real fast.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

LSBeene

2% by Brownmiller has been debunked since forever.

Where did it come from?

Brownmiller had many choices of "stats", but remember that Brownmiller was asserting that ALL men were trying to use rape (all sex to her) to subjegate ALL women.  And the idea that the "victims" would lie about it would subvert all she had to say.  Women were the victims and men were guilty.  All men were either rapists or potential rapists.  

So where did the factoid come from?

Brownmiller got a MIMEOGRAPH that was the OPINION from ONE APPELLATE judge who was talking about ONE district in ONE city (New York) in the country.  

1) OPINION is not fact.

2) APPELLATE judges see only cases based on technical merit of possible mistakes made by lower courts.  And these cases are CHOSEN based on precedent setting points of law that may or may not have anything to do with the broader context of the case.  (i.e. was the search of the man's desk at work covered in the warrant)

3) One district in one city... says it all.

didn't want to write a long post and try to dominate this thread.  Just had to toss that in.

Steven
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Daymar

Quote from: "ConspiracyTheory"
I think there is a term for this, something like the 'bait and switch'.  I can tell you that what you see isn't what you get.

They market these girls like it's the best thing since me, but I tell you they learn real fast.


You may be right but where did you get your info from?

That's not the case according to these guys www.americanwomensuck.com and these guys www.nomarriage.com

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I stand corrected.
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