anti-white ribbon day?

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i am thinkin of goin' in to both my kid's schools and say i don't want them to attend white ribbon day( http://www.whiteribbonday.org.au/ )put on by the local women's shelter with their feminist definitions.
My kids are 14 and 10-they don't need to listen to this cowshit.

what do you think?

....and i am thinkin about starting an anti-white ribbon day group on face book-but i gotta do it now--whatcha think?

dr e

Any time you take the side of being "anti" something you are putting yourself in a more vulnerable position.  People have an automatic reaction to those who are "anti" and it is not unusual for that person to face shame and disdain not for their views but simply because they are anti. Look at how feminists are so eager to call people "anti-feminists."  They know it is a losing battle.   I would suggest an approach that focused on telling the whole story and bring to light the parts of the story that are left out.  Schools are educational settings and sometimes have concern for telling the whole story.  Then again, sometimes not.  lol  Just food for thought.  I think even the anti is better than nothing.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

outdoors

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Sep 13, 2010, 03:39 PM Last Edit: Sep 13, 2010, 03:42 PM by outdoors
what would you suggest?

"counter"?

"white ribbon day protest"?

hmmm.....

outdoors

 ideas..anyone?

dr e


ideas..anyone?


I would just focus on how only a part of the story was being told and that they therefore were being a part in the distribution of misinformation. (at taxpayer's expense)  I would have a one page fact sheet ready for them that offered the other side of the story that was not being told.   
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

outdoors

 i agree

-but i gotta keep it simple-if it gets to complicated - i will never follow through

would be nice if i could get the kids(boy's) in highschool to just walk out

last year when i walked into the school-there were poster's everywhere about the montreal massacre victim's with their names written down in rememberence--then some saying about violence against women.
it was overkill and quite sickening.

outdoors



ideas..anyone?


I would just focus on how only a part of the story was being told and that they therefore were being a part in the distribution of misinformation. (at taxpayer's expense)  I would have a one page fact sheet ready for them that offered the other side of the story that was not being told.   


what i need is a list of what women shelter's speaker's do NOT tell the kids--seems to me someone had one made up somewhere-i think it was here a while back

dr e

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Sep 17, 2010, 08:07 AM Last Edit: Sep 17, 2010, 08:10 AM by dr e
I think I might start with the list made by SAVE about 7 facts regarding dv. This list is pretty tame and has references that back up what is claimed.  It comes from a reputable organization and if they take the time to check out the references they will have a hard time disagreeing.  I think I would simply suggest that this one page be handed out to ALL STUDENTS on that day.  This puts them into a difficult position of having to side against the truth with the feminist half-the-story bigots.  It is great activism if they agree to hand it out and great activism if they refuse since if they refuse that is a great start to a good story to publish on the web or a letter to write to the local newspaper about the facts that are being omitted.


OF course, #2, #3, #4 and #7 are winners here. ;>) Here's the list:

http://saveservices.org/pdf/Seven-Facts-Every-American-Should-Know-About-DV.pdf
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Seven Key Facts About Domestic Violence

Prepared by:
Stop Abusive and Violent Environments

www.saveservices.org


Everybody has heard about domestic violence. But do you know how common it is? Who is most affected? And whether we are making progress in the national effort to curb partner abuse?

Fact #1: One in 10 American couples engages in intimate partner violence each year.
About one in 10 married and cohabiting couples experience some form of partner aggression (slap, shove, punch, etc.) each year.1

Fact #2: Men and women initiate domestic violence at similar rates.

   Over 250 scholarly studies "demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners.2
   If an incident escalates, the female partner is more likely to be injured. Nonetheless, of all victims who require medical attention, one-third are male.3
   Female initiation of partner violence is the leading reason for the woman becoming a victim of subsequent violence.4

Fact #3: Partner aggression is often two-way.

   A Centers for Disease Control survey found that half of all partner violence was reciprocal.5
   One study of dating couples concluded that 70% of all physical abuse was mutual.6

Fact #4: Although all segments of society are affected, domestic violence is concentrated in certain groups.

Domestic violence is more common among certain groups such as:
   Lower income couples.7
   Couples who are not in intact, married relationships.
   Lesbian and gay partners8

Fact #5: Many factors contribute to domestic violence incidents.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has identified 28 different causes of domestic violence. These include individual, relationship, and community factors.9

Fact #6: America is making steady progress in the national effort to curb intimate partner aggression.

Since the mid-1970s, domestic violence among intimate partners has fallen dramatically, whether violence is assessed by community surveys,10 crime surveys of non-fatal violence,11 or FBI homicide statistics. 12

Fact #7: Many victims of domestic violence face barriers to getting help.

Many victims of domestic violence encounter discrimination and other barriers to receiving assistance:
   One analysis concluded, "the exclusion of men appears to be the norm."13
   One survey highlighted the discriminatory practices of many domestic violence shelters, concluding that
lesbian and gay victims "still did not have consistent access to culturally competent services to prevent and address the violence against them."14


References

1 For example, the 1992 National Alcohol and Family Violence Survey found 9.5% of men and 9.1% of women in married or cohabiting relationships had experienced inter-partner violence in the previous year.
2 Fiebert ML. References Examining Assaults by Women on their Spouses or Male Partners. California State University, 2010. http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
3 Archer J. Sex Differences in Aggression Between Heterosexual Partners: A Meta-Analytic Review. Psychological Bulletin Vol. 126, No. 5, 2000.
4 Stith S, Smith DB, Penn CE, et al. Intimate partner physical abuse perpetation and victimization risk factors: A meta-analytic review. Aggression and Violent Behavior Vol. 10, 2004. pp. 65-98.
5 Whitaker DJ et al. Differences in frequency of violence and reported injury between relationships with reciprocal and nonreciprocal intimate partner violence. American Journal of Public Health, Vol. 97, No. 5, 2007.
6 Straus MA. Dominance and symmetry in partner violence by male and female university students in 32 nations. Children and Youth Services Review, 2008. http://pubpages.unh.edu/%7Emas2/ID41-PR41-Dominance-symmetry- In-Press-07.pdf
7 Department of Justice. Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2007. February 2010. NCJ 227669. Table 35.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1743
8 Zahnd E, Grant D, Aydin M et al. Nearly Four Million California Adults are Victims of Intimate Partner Violence. Los Angeles, CA: UCLA Center for Health Policy Research, 2010. http://www.healthpolicy.ucla.edu/pubs/Publication.aspx?pubID=402
9 Centers for Disease Control: Intimate Partner Violence: Risk and Protective Factors. http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/intimatepartnerviolence/riskprotectivefactors.html
10 From 1975 to 1992. Male victims: From 11.6% to 9.5% of couples. Female victims: From 12.1% to 9.1% of couples. Source of 1975 data: National Surveys of Family Violence. Source of 1992 data: National Alcohol and Family Violence Survey.
11 From 1993 to 2001. Male victims: From 1.6 to 0.9/1,000 persons. Female victims: From 9.8 to 5.0/1,000 persons. Source: U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics. Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001. Table 2. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1001
12 From 1976 to 2000. Male victims: From 1,357 to 440 murders. Female victims: From 1,600 to 1,247 murders. Source: U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics. Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1001
13 Stop Abusive and Violent Environments. Domestic Violence Programs Discriminate Against Male Victims. Rockville, MD. 2010. http://www.saveservices.org/downloads/VAWA-Discriminates-Against-Males
14 National Center for Victims of Crime and the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs. Why it Matters. 2010. http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=47632
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

outdoors

 that is good

outdoors

looks like i may have some local support--this is a sample of the kinda shit we are up against

http://www.whiteribbon.ca/educational_materials/default.asp?load=seven

outdoors

 i gotta post this here-so i can find it later;

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men's rights activist wrote;"According to the U.S. Health & Human Services Dept., more children are killed in a year by neglect & abuse than all the female victims of intimate partner violence. Mothers are the single largest group on the pie chart who're doing the killing. http://tinyurl.com/2ant9e7 They're killing those children at twice the rate of fathers.  Sadly, there's no Violence Against Children Act like there's VAWA for women. Apparently the image of violent women is politically incorrect.  V.P. Biden recently called violence against women, "the very worst abuse."  The very worst abuse is valuing one life less than another for having been born the wrong sex.  Under Biden's Violence Against Women Act, the wrong sex is men, the wrong age group is children.  Shelter & services are virtually non-existent for male victims of d.v. so ways out of bad relationships, that women have, are often not available to men.  Men are often battered by d.v., then battered again by taxpayer funded, d.v. laws.  Credible research shows that the ratio of d.v. is at least 50/50 between women & men. http://tinyurl.com/yzm9xhe  Women initiate about 70% of non mutual d.v. http://tinyurl.com/3sakk "Los Misandry" shows the inequities that exist in America's d.v. laws." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAmOxvudpF8

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i am thinkin of goin' in to both my kid's schools and say i don't want them to attend white ribbon day( http://www.whiteribbonday.org.au/ )put on by the local women's shelter with their feminist definitions.
My kids are 14 and 10-they don't need to listen to this cowshit.

what do you think?

....and i am thinkin about starting an anti-white ribbon day group on face book-but i gotta do it now--whatcha think?

Someone is trying to start a black ribbon campaign for mens rights.

http://peterzohrab.tripod.com/


Something like that?

outdoors



i am thinkin of goin' in to both my kid's schools and say i don't want them to attend white ribbon day( http://www.whiteribbonday.org.au/ )put on by the local women's shelter with their feminist definitions.
My kids are 14 and 10-they don't need to listen to this cowshit.

what do you think?

....and i am thinkin about starting an anti-white ribbon day group on face book-but i gotta do it now--whatcha think?

Someone is trying to start a black ribbon campaign for mens rights.

http://peterzohrab.tripod.com/


Something like that?


Wow!

I gotta get a hold of this person!

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