Saddam Interrogation

[Amber]

My CIA buddy was just on O'Reilly.  

They talked about Saddam's interrogation.  Mr. Simmons said that they are going to force Saddam to watch tapes of his crimes over and over until he breaks down.

Sounds like a good plan to me.  

O'Reilly asked about truth serum.  Simmons said it was fair game, but it seemed like he was trying to convince O'Reilly that it likely won't be necessary

[Amber]

Come on, dammit, this is interesting.  Someone else posted this elsewhere.

"I went through POW camp at Howard AFB, '92. Two weeks of escape and evasion (eating grubs, yummy!), and two weeks or interrogation resistance. I got a broken jaw that never healed straight. Doesn't bother me, just looks funny in pictures at some angles. When I point it out to my friends, sometimes they are really amazed, guess it doesn't show so much in everyday life. Need to get that fixed someday.

For me, the worst thing I can remember was the asphixiation. When I started to clam up, they decided that those who won't talk don't need air. Big 55 gallon drum of water. I must have taken a dozen wet naps. After it was over I got to meet the doctor who made sure I didn't drown.

Did they give you those zip-ties for the all-nighters? A really good puch or kick would get you a zip-tie on your pocket, when the next guy took over, he kinda had an idea where the last guy left off. I was really simple-minded, and didn't negotiate enough. I got the nickname "Prom Date" - pocket *full* of zip-ties. Yea, yea, I know 'did you put out' - already heard all of the prom-date jokes.

How about AFLQV? Air Force Loves Quick Victories! .... ..... .... ... . .!

Gettin' the stuffins kicked out of you for two weeks solid really is a life-changing experience. I 'lacked the intellectual flexibility required to trade information for mercy.' I was too stupid (I like to call it single-minded) to believe that they would quit beating me if I talked. And me and one of my buddies learned about clostrophobia; "Don't put me in the box! Don't put me in the box!" (they put us in the box) Zzzzzzzzz. That was great.

I remember telling myself "The information you contain is the only reason they are keeping you alive". When that quit working (the idea of death didn't seem so bad after day 3), I kept telling myself "They wouldn't kill you mercifuly. They would keep you alive, only then you'd be no use to them, and they could do anything they wanted." These two mental tricks kept me quiet the whole time, as far as I remember.

They broke me too, but (I'm not making this up) I do not remeber the event where I divulged. Did I block it out? I don't know. I remember being in a semi-concious state a lot of the time, just in miserable pain. Got TSSPI, then spent two years in Juan Valdez's magical burro land. Beautiful country, though. Became a believer there."


:shock:  :shock:

[Nichov]

If you want more conversation to be generated by your posts, take a few people off your ignore list.

But forcing Saddam to watch his atrocities will not cause him to break down... No more than forcing you to watch the conservative party debates would cause you to break down.

He caused all those atrocities, and he witnessed MANY of them personally, and he even executed many of them personally... Why don't you take a sexual pervert and force one to watch child pornography until they break down?  It'll never work.

[dr e]

That's interesting that they say "truth serum" is fair game.  I remember in the 70's being a part of a treatment team that administered "truth serum" to a mental patient who was being interrogated.  The doc involved had an iv syringe and would pump more medicine in the guy the more he thought he was not telling the truth.  Apparently too much medicine and the subject would zonk out and too little he wouldn't tell the truth.  I bet SH won't get such gentle treatment.

[Peter]

What chemicals was actually used?

[dr e]

Peter - I was trying to remember what it was.  It was sodium something...maybe sodium amytol.  I can't remember.

[Galt]

The old one was sodium pentathol, sodium amytal is also equivalent ... but apparently there are newer ones.  

I haven't heard AT ALL that Saddam will be subjected to that, in fact I rather doubt it.

[Matt]

The classic "truth serum" is C11h17n2o2sna -- or, as the laymen call it -- sodium pentathol. A couple other compounds like sodium pancurate or diethylene glycol will cause similar effects, but the old pentathol is the standard fare for interrogrations and tortures.

[Galt]

Frankly ... if they want to get information out of him, they just have to haul the old electrical torture devices up from the basement where he and Uday had people tortured.  That would be kind of "iffy" under the law and in the public opinion, but it might be a nice turnaround for him.