Started by Amber, Dec 17, 2003, 10:41 PM
Quote from: "Sir Jessy of Anti"Question for Amber: If we started an organization called the Independent Men's Forum, and had the same principles, would you call us evil MRA's?[..]QuoteFor instance, I consider the IWF to be a part of the women's movement, albeit a much more venerable organization than what that phrase would normally conjure up.Ummmm ok. The IWF questions feminist dogma over and over again. It advocates career women, but it advocates that women themselves be capable and competent enough to get jobs on their own merit not through the government. If you call that the "women's movement" then, well, whatever. It is more a Republican movement than it is a women's movement.
Question for Amber: If we started an organization called the Independent Men's Forum, and had the same principles, would you call us evil MRA's?
For instance, I consider the IWF to be a part of the women's movement, albeit a much more venerable organization than what that phrase would normally conjure up.
Our MissionThe Independent Women's Forum is dedicated to advancing the spirit of enterprise and self-reliance among women, and supporting the principles of political freedom, economic liberty, and personal responsibility.
"What does IWF do?IWF provides a voice for responsible, mainstream women who embrace common sense over divisive ideology."
"We make that voice heard in the U.S. Supreme Court, among other decision makers in Washington, and across America's airwaves as we: Counter the dangerous influence of radical feminism in the courts Combat corrosive feminist ideology on campus Change the terms of the debate on quality of life issues affecting American women" "Through programs, such as our legal, campus, and work/family projects, the IWF will continue to: Educate women on the benefits of the free market and the danger of big government Challenge conventional feminist myths with accurate information and lively debate Provide a forum for women who are not represented by radical feminist groups"
Hear that Amber? They provide a voice for women. Men simply want a voice too, without people like you calling them evil and victimist.
Besides that: here is a tip. The only men the men's movement are gathering are victimized men. Men who were ripped in divorce; men who had their kids taken away from them; men in jail for being falsely accused of hitting or raping a woman. These men do not make good activists. The best activists are not victims. Victims, especially ones without any kind of resolve, only want to hate things. The only thing the kind of people they are picking up are good at is the start of a hate movement. Re-routing the image and purpose of the movement isn't just a matter of being ethical; it is a matter of being effective.
Damn Gonzo Kid ... are you RELATED to GONZO from MensActivism.org? You two seem to come from the same bloodline.