Recovery prompts US divorce rebound

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In a perverse sign of the economic recovery, the US divorce rate, which dipped in the recession, has bounced back, lawyers and matrimonial experts say.

A stronger economy, lower unemployment and a housing market that - while still weak - is no longer in free fall are all contributing to a rebound in divorce filings.

"There is huge pent-up demand," said Marshal Willick, a Las Vegas matrimonial attorney, who has noted an upturn in his business.

During the recession, couples who were out of work or unable to sell their house stayed married to save money. The percentage of the population 15 years and older who counted themselves divorced dropped to 9.7 in 2009, from 9.9 three years earlier, according to the Census Bureau. More than half of the 1,600 attorneys who are members of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers reported a downturn in their business in 2009, the most recent year for which survey data are available.

Now, those same lawyers are inundated with new clients. Linda Lea Viken, the group's president, said her practice in Rapid City, South Dakota, was 25 per cent busier this year, compared with the same period in 2009.

One client first approached her about leaving his wife in 2008, but put the divorce on hold when the local bank would not lend him the money to buy her out of their ranch. As property values in the area rebounded following a steep rise in the price of corn and wheat, the once stalled divorce is "moving full steam ahead", Ms Viken said.

Divorce has not become any less acrimonious but the fights have changed, lawyers said.

"People no longer argue about who's keeping the house, but about who's stuck with it," Mr Willick said.

So-called underwater homes, that are worth less than the balance on their mortgage, are flummoxing judges who cannot decide whether to treat them as an asset or a liability.

In one Las Vegas case, the husband wanted to sell and the wife did not. While they argued, the value of the home continued to fall, said Gary Silverman, their lawyer. The couple is still in the process of splitting.

Other divorce rituals are also going by the wayside. It was once standard practice to make copies of family photos. "But today, people don't want to shoulder the expense," said Madeline Marzano-Lesnevich, a New Jersey lawyer.

Even in times of economic distress, however, there is only so much misery that people can bear. One divorcing Manhattan man had planned to use the proceeds from his Bernard Madoff account to pay for a new apartment when he had left home.

The man still moved out after Mr Madoff's investment fund was exposed as a Ponzi scheme. "But he got a much smaller apartment," said his lawyer, Alton Abramowitz.

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Yup, when the going gets tough and some women lose liberty they fall back on cave man rules. But as soon as liberty is restored, BAM! they chuck the old rules and become "empowered" again.

What a load. Seriously. Some women just play both sides of the fence. Damsel then Wonder Woman. And our society lets them do this. No one ridicules women for marrying to get some guy to support them BUT god forbid you're a man out of work, then your a social outcast.

Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

BRIAN

Yep.

Gotta get your half when the portfolio is on the upswing huh ladies? :toothy9:
You may sleep soundly at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence upon those who seek to harm you.

Galt

A really bizarre solution to the problem is to not get married until you are sure. Not sure? Don't get married. I've never been sure, and I have watched some of the young ladies I was not sure about go on to fleece fairly wealthy men of a good chunk of change.

Galt

And I guess a confounding problem involves people who are absolutely sure - like my cousin, who constantly reminded me of my immaturity for not marrying - and his wife nevertheless drilled him hard after 20 years of marriage. He is truly a wage slave at this point.

Galt

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Apr 24, 2011, 07:25 PM Last Edit: Apr 24, 2011, 07:32 PM by Galt
A further problem involves the fiction of "half" - particularly involving a housewife, in fact that's really the only case involving a fiction today. Otherwise divisions usually go on what the parties really earned.

If you are a proud chivalrous guy that generously thinks that your housewife has the more difficult job, then why the fuck are you complaining if you have to pay her less than half in a divorce?

No.Really.Why?

I don't buy it that pregnant women are magical creatures, I don't buy it that women who sit home today do lots of work if they don't have small children at home, and I don't believe that women are just oppressed by men just because.

Until the laws change (and I am going to hold my breath until that happens) ... everything described above is going to be a basis for a woman to get money out of you.

bluegrass


A further problem involves the fiction of "half" - particularly involving a housewife, in fact that's really the only case involving a fiction today. Otherwise divisions usually go on what the parties really earned.

If you are a proud chivalrous guy that generously thinks that your housewife has the more difficult job, then why the fuck are you complaining if you have to pay her less than half in a divorce?

No.Really.Why?

I don't buy it that pregnant women are magical creatures, I don't buy it that women who sit home today do lots of work if they don't have small children at home, and I don't believe that women are just oppressed by men just because.

Until the laws change (and I am going to hold my breath until that happens) ... everything described above is going to be a basis for a woman to get money out of you.


For the past three years I've been working an odd sched that leaves me substantial time off during some week days.  That and having a kid in school give me quite a window into the world of the SAHM.  One thing I often hear is stuff like, "I don't even start the housework til the kids get home.  When I'm home alone that's my time." 

Parenting:  the hardest part time job in the world.
"To such females, womanhood is more sacrosanct by a thousand times than the Virgin Mary to popes--and motherhood, that degree raised to astronomic power. They have eaten the legend about themselves and believe it; they live it; they require fealty of us all." -- Philip Wylie, Generation of Vipers

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