Equal Pay, War on women, AGAIN!

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http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_141/Senate-Democrats-Make-Play-on-Equal-Pay-214810-1.html?ref=corg

Dems will use this in their war-on-women claim.

Senate Democrats Make Play on Equal Pay

    By Humberto Sanchez
    Roll Call Staff
    May 24, 2012, Midnight

Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call
Sens. Barbara Mikulski (left) and Patty Murray arrive at a press conference Wednesday at which they challenged Republicans to join them in support of the Paycheck Fairness Act.

     
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In their latest play for female voters, Senate Democrats have begun laying the groundwork for a legislative fight over equal pay next month.

Senate Democrats intend to set up a procedural vote after next week's recess on the Paycheck Fairness Act, which would update the Equal Pay Act signed into law June 10, 1963.

"Forty-nine years later, women still make less for doing the same job with the same education as men do," Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), who introduced the bill, said Wednesday at a briefing. "What we are saying here on the eve of the 49th anniversary of the Equal Pay Act is we're mad as hell and we're not going take it anymore."

Republicans were unmoved and criticized their Democratic counterparts for pushing what they said was more pressing legislation to the side. A senior GOP leadership aide said "it makes it tough to swallow" that Senate Democratic leaders have complained about lack of floor time to deal with what the aide said was "the largest tax hike in history, sequestration, spending bills" and an assortment of other must-do legislation.

Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.), who is head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, called on Republicans to back the bill to show that they support women's issues, despite what she called a raft of recent GOP legislative proposals that would disadvantage women.

"I ... urge Republicans to join with us to pass this critical legislation," Murray said at the briefing. "Over the past few months, many of us have stood up here in front of you to fight against partisan attacks on policies that would impact women across America. None of us started these fights, but we are not going to stand by and watch as Republicans roll back the clock."

Among the examples Democrats have cited is contraception. In March, Senate Republicans offered an amendment to transportation reauthorization legislation that would have allowed companies and insurance providers to opt out of a proposed rule that mandates access to birth control.

The amendment, which was defeated, came in response to a rule proposed by the Obama administration that would require insurance companies to provide and pay for contraception services in accordance with the 2010 health care law.

Democrats said the amendment showed that Republicans were willing to trample on women's right to contraception, which they said was standard health care.

Republicans said the rule threatens religious freedom.

Since then, however, Republican leaders have focused on jobs messaging and have largely deferred on getting involved in any more sparring in the culture wars.

Democrats on Wednesday insisted their bill had bearing on the economy.

"Every time we stood up to defend women, the Republicans would jump up and say we were creating distractions or creating manufactured issues," Murray said. "They would say we should be focused on the economy, like we were the ones changing the subject and making partisan attacks. We are not going to stop standing up for women and our families. And to those Republicans who claim to be so concerned about the economy, now is your chance to sign on to co-sponsor this bill.

"The Paycheck Fairness Act isn't just about women and is not just about fairness, it is about the economy," Murray continued. "When women are not paid what they deserve, middle-class families and communities pay the price." 

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, women who work full time still earn, on average, only 77 cents for every dollar men earn. On average, black women were paid 62 cents and Latinas were paid 53 cents, as compared to white men.

The pay disparity comes at a time when almost 40 percent of women are acting as their primary household breadwinners.

Republicans were skeptical of the legislation and pointed to Democrats' touting over the past few years of the 2009 passage of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act as a balm to the issue of pay equity.

The law was named after a woman who discovered she was being paid less than her male peers.

A jury found the Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company plant in Gadsden, Ala., where she worked, guilty of pay discrimination. But in a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court threw out the case, ruling that Ledbetter should have filed her suit within 180 days of the date that Goodyear first paid her less than her peers. In 2009, the 111th Congress passed the legislation that  clarified the statue of limitations on pay discrimination cases.

"Either they've been lying about Lilly Ledbetter for three years or they're losing so much ground among women that they'll say anything to try to get it back," a different senior Republican aide said.

Democrats said the Ledbetter bill only relaxed the statute of limitations on pay equity discrimination. Mikulski said the Ledbetter bill was a "down payment" by "keeping the court house doors open."

The Paycheck Fairness Act "closes the loopholes that allow discrimination in the first place," Mikulski added.

The bill would require employers to demonstrate that wage differences between men and women doing the same work have a business justification and stem from factors other than gender. It would also prohibit retaliation against workers who inquire about their employers' wage practices or disclose their own wages. It would also protect certain confidential wage information.

The bill would help level the playing field by ensuring that women can obtain the same remedies as those subject to discrimination on the basis of race or national origin.

It would also seek to encourage enforcement of equal pay laws by reinstating the collection of wage-related data and providing resources to train workers who enforce equal pay laws.
Explaining misandry to a feminist is like explaining "wet" to a fish.

outdoors

 How on earth do these polition's get in?

Does being stupid represent some kind of leadership quality?

Men's Rights Activist

I emailed him this:


Quote
Re:  Senate Democrats Make Play on Equal Pay

   * By Humberto Sanchez
   * Roll Call Staff
   * May 24, 2012, Midnight

Men take home 23-cents-an-hour more than women (on average) and earn every penny.
http://tinyurl.com/7xshtdo

Also,
The Gender Pay Gap is a Complete Myth
http://tinyurl.com/7y6t7rv

According to highly acclaimed career expert and best-selling author, Marty Nemko, "The data is clear that for the same work men and women are paid roughly the same. The media need to look beyond the claims of feminist organizations."
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

BRIAN

I am disapointed that none of the Republicans called out the Democrats using a willful lie to try and influence public policy.
You may sleep soundly at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence upon those who seek to harm you.

Virtue

I noticed he was too cowardly to have comments on his article.
Imagine waking up tomorrow to find
that unbelievably rape is now legal.

You would be freaking out, telling everyone you ran into this is crazy- something needs to be done... now!!! And then every man you told this to just very smugly and condescendingly says...

"Hey... not all men are 'like that.'"

bluegrass


I noticed he was too cowardly to have comments on his article.


Of course he did -- that's how effective MRA's have become on mainstream news boards.  They pull out the wage gap myth about once a week on Huffpo and there are immediately several links that prove them wrong.
"To such females, womanhood is more sacrosanct by a thousand times than the Virgin Mary to popes--and motherhood, that degree raised to astronomic power. They have eaten the legend about themselves and believe it; they live it; they require fealty of us all." -- Philip Wylie, Generation of Vipers

bluegrass


How on earth do these polition's get in?

Does being stupid represent some kind of leadership quality?


It's not stupidity.  Virtually every one of them knows the earnings gap is a result of women's choices.  They just don't care.
"To such females, womanhood is more sacrosanct by a thousand times than the Virgin Mary to popes--and motherhood, that degree raised to astronomic power. They have eaten the legend about themselves and believe it; they live it; they require fealty of us all." -- Philip Wylie, Generation of Vipers

CaptDMO

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According to the U.S. Census Bureau, women who work full time still earn, on average, only 77 cents for every dollar men earn. On average, black women were paid 62 cents and Latinas were paid 53 cents, as compared to white men.

Not that I believe it but...On average? So this number DOESN'T apply to the "same "education"/same job performance" meme?

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The pay disparity comes at a time when almost 40 percent of women are acting as their primary household breadwinners.

And how many of THESE women ...
1. Are single?
2. Have NEVER earned a steady paycheck?
3. Are illegally situated?
4. Actually merited a fully paid "higher education" CV?
5. Are not eligible for  a lifetime of "access" to public assistance?

neoteny

5. Are not eligible for  a lifetime of "access" to public assistance?

No one is eligible to lifetime public assistance since Bill Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Cysterhood



How on earth do these polition's get in?

Does being stupid represent some kind of leadership quality?


It's not stupidity.  Virtually every one of them knows the earnings gap is a result of women's choices.  They just don't care.

Or they've been so effectively conned and bullied by the feminist movement that they know there's no benifit in objecting.
I'm mad.
I'm furious.
I've enough rage to fuel a thousand suns.

Quentin0352


5. Are not eligible for  a lifetime of "access" to public assistance?

No one is eligible to lifetime public assistance since Bill Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.



Supposedly. I have seen a lot who use the free medical when havign a child to then get it pushed they are "disabled" so sudddenly there is a lifetime SSI check she gets to control for years and just keeps doing it with more and more kids.

BRIAN


5. Are not eligible for  a lifetime of "access" to public assistance?

No one is eligible to lifetime public assistance since Bill Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.



Nope. That was another big lie of the Clinton regime. They trotted that as welfare reform but it was full of ways to stay on the public dole. This was almost as big a lie as the "Ballanced Budget" of the Clinton Regime.
You may sleep soundly at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence upon those who seek to harm you.

neoteny

I'm going to defer to you Americans on this one.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Quentin0352


I'm going to defer to you Americans on this one.



Thank you. There are a lot of misconceptions on this one. Things like claims it was put up and passed by Clinton though he fought it and got it watered down to it ending welfare. It made it harder to just sit on it for life but there are a ton of holes in it with any welfare idiot worth their salt finding them in a heartbeat. Also it really isn't enforced. As an example, you are supposed to either work or be in some kind of training or school while getting the benefits but an audit just here locally found less than 15% were doing those things and no enforcement to get them either to start doing some kind of work or getting some kind of education. Not even ASKING them if they were, much less even a call to check and see if it was true.

CaptDMO

Soooooo....
I was just reading this bit in The Independent Review.
(Vol.16, No.3)"Mechanisms of Liberal Bias"-D. Sutter

I had a nifty "chart" based on...you know...actual facts and stuff.
Salaries across Academic Fields, Relative to Salaries in Engineering
with data given in College and University Professional Association for Human Resources
2009 (how many red flags THERE?)

So-called Humanities "professors" merit about 75% the pay of engineering profs.
Coincidence that this magic number, debunked in (so-called) academic "equal pay for equal job title" rants, has carried over to the UN-cloistered REAL world?   

Shocking outliers to me?
Chemistry .767%
Marketing  .995%

What I call "Humanities" included-
Communications and Journalism
Foreign Language and Literature
English
Liberal Arts
Philosophy
Psychology
Social Services
Visual and Performing Arts
History

Not listed-Racial, Ethnic, and/or gender based "studies" profs. (Liberal Arts?)
No listing for "Constitutional Law" professors! (Visual and Performing Arts?) 

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